Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[VFX]

If they hand out the deals Im expecting them to this offseason I'll probably follow suit.

They are trolling us at this point.

You cant have a bottom ranked 3 pt shooting team for 5+ seasons and fail to address the issue every year while other organizations move scraps for solutions.

That Xatticus change seemed like insanity…

Of course, I told my son this year who recently has become obsessed with football, that he should just be a fan of the good teams or football in general, so he doesn’t have to go through the ebbs and flows and still unlikely to ever see his team win a championship.

I should probably take my own advice, and there is probably not a better team to choose than OKC.

We dont change teams in Europe. I would rather not watch nba at all than cheer for any other team. Real man can endure tougher times, boys can watch tik tok or Lakers.

I mean.. Im pretty fed up with the NBA as a product anyway. It's not like Id change teams.. I'd simply stop watching or caring.

[ogmagicfan]

I watched the Fournier-Vuc years, I can definitely stomach Franz-Paolo leading our team.

Buddy ball

[MasterGMer]

No. We dont.

Go back to asking why we arent going after Giannis and Lebron because you are in fantasy land.

Really? What was the price for Cleveland to land Donovan Mitchell? Btw we could go after LeBron this summer. I said “could”. How did Milwaukee land Damian Lillard? What about Atlanta landing DeJounte Murray? Simple, first round picks and young players. Isn’t Jalen Suggs good enough to be a big trade assets? Isn’t Wendell Carter good enough to be a big assets? What about AB and Jett? Yes, we have what it takes, man. We just need the right opportunity poping up for us


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Then you are a fool if you think trading Jalen Suggs is the answer to landing some allstar player to a team that hasn't even made the playoffs yet. And no, they aren't' yet because of the size of their contracts and the limited assets elsewhere. Orlandos picks aren't in the lotto anymore. This is pretty basic stuff here.

None of those players you listed are even thinking about Orlando as a destination until they have sustained postseason progress. Orlando can't even break away from teams playing a zone on them defensively because of their issues on offense.

I wish I was as naive as you

So by quoting you, Donovan Mitchell saw Cleveland as a destination? He doesn’t even want to be there. Damian Lillard thought Milwaukee could be the place. When DeJounte Murray was traded to Hawks, he had a choice? No, man. It is through trades. I am not saying those stars will resign with us to remain long term. But by putting a playoff team on the floor this season plus selling them a vision and future, they very likely could, my friend.

Also Suggs will be a Restricted Free Agent, which means team trading for him can hold on to him longer. So is AB and Jett plus our FRPs. I do not care what range we would be in. Three or four FRPs are a lot to offer.

If we put up a package like that, you really think we wouldn’t have a chance? At least a chance?


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[Blue_and_Whte]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I’ve been here since 89’ so may as well stick around. Curious to see which 35 year old washed up vet we sign this off-season for the “experience”.

[KillMonger]

gary and markelle are still on the roster.............Gary is so inconsistent that he has taken that mantle from Fournier....never seen a "Vet" so off and on besides fournier until now......and i remember evan being cold for like half the season before finding his shot again....Gary is off like all season, that is if he's even shooting enough with his low volume.....and then you have markelle......off the top of my head i can't even think of another team he would even start for other than this one....no playoff team would EVER start a player like markelle that can't space the floor or even shoot a contested mid range shot

[VFX]

I watched the Fournier-Vuc years, I can definitely stomach Franz-Paolo leading our team.

Difference is low/no stakes whatsoever compared to much higher stakes and gauging whether or not Orlando are serious in their development.

Nobody gave a **** about Vuc/Fournier teams for real. They were never accomplishing anything ever.

[Audi]

Xatticus made the right move. Now, maybe he did it because of Chet but the reality is, if you choose a team Presti is running, it should be a good time.

If they hand out the deals Im expecting them to this offseason I'll probably follow suit.

They are trolling us at this point.

You cant have a bottom ranked 3 pt shooting team for 5+ seasons and fail to address the issue every year while other organizations move scraps for solutions.

That Xatticus change seemed like insanity…

Of course, I told my son this year who recently has become obsessed with football, that he should just be a fan of the good teams or football in general, so he doesn’t have to go through the ebbs and flows and still unlikely to ever see his team win a championship.

I should probably take my own advice, and there is probably not a better team to choose than OKC.

What's this talk about choosing your team? Is that a real thing? Magic basketball is in my blood! I grew up p*ssing in the nasty troughs at the Orena along with the rest of the real ones. Fat Guy is my spirit animal. I howled for Joe Wolf. I cheered for Donald Royal and Greg Kite. There's no choosing when you've been razzamatazzed.

[p0peye]

If they hand out the deals Im expecting them to this offseason I'll probably follow suit.

They are trolling us at this point.

You cant have a bottom ranked 3 pt shooting team for 5+ seasons and fail to address the issue every year while other organizations move scraps for solutions.

That Xatticus change seemed like insanity…

Of course, I told my son this year who recently has become obsessed with football, that he should just be a fan of the good teams or football in general, so he doesn’t have to go through the ebbs and flows and still unlikely to ever see his team win a championship.

I should probably take my own advice, and there is probably not a better team to choose than OKC.

We dont change teams in Europe. I would rather not watch nba at all than cheer for any other team. Real man can endure tougher times, boys can watch tik tok or Lakers.

I have Partizan games in Euroleague to watch, the front office just gave me more time to sleep during the night.

[SOUL]

I watched the Fournier-Vuc years, I can definitely stomach Franz-Paolo leading our team.

Difference is low/no stakes whatsoever compared to much higher stakes and gauging whether or not Orlando are serious in their development.

Nobody gave a **** about Vuc/Fournier teams for real. They were never accomplishing anything ever.

IDK man, people were pretty damn passionate about those two lol.

I'll be a similar level of heated if we don't do anything this offseason, but I really wanted some smaller moves right now just to show that they are a bit serious about addressing needs.

I'm not under the belief that we had to get Murray 100% or something because we don't know what the deals were for players like that, but feel like we absolutely could've made some trades like the Knicks or Mavs did. I know we're a few years behind them in terms of youth and whatever but still.

[The-Stallion70]

"Weltgawd" more like buffoon.

Do you think Weltman and Hammond knew that the trade deadline was today? I'm pretty sure they were out on the Winter Park golf course and the minute they got back in the car and heard the sports talk radio come on they smashed the mute button.

"Who wants to hear that garbage right now"

Worth noting that Hammond isn’t the GM anymore, it’s Candace Parker’s brother.

Hammond is still an advisor to the team and yes I believe he does find time to work on his short game.

But yea now that you mention it, to hell with Parker too.

[CocoaFan]

Jeff Weltman accomplishments:
Worked as Assistant GM for Hammond in Milwaukee 2008-2013 and left for Toronto in 2013
GM Toronto 2016-17 (1 year) then hired by Magic; never held GM position before that (Masai Ujiri was the decision maker when he was GM)

Weltman has pretty much not done anything noteworthy in his career. I am so frustrated with this FO's fear of making a decision they are destined to be mediocre forever. ALMOST ANYONE on this forum could have made the decisions this team has made in the last 7 years. Picking in the lottery for years gives you a pretty good chance of having a mid level team. How do you think this plays with Paolo, Franz, and the rest of the team when we have glaring shooting weaknesses and our FO is content to sit it out while all the teams in front of us are making trades to improve. Does that sound like a FO you want to spend your career at? Another evaluation year? Then why aren't we starting Black over Fultz and giving Howard minutes. I think they think they have a direction but their fear paralyzes their ability to get anything done. This forum needs to write letters to the Sentinel and I don't know if anyone knows how to contact Magic ownership but we need to voice our concerns about the front office. I have NO confidence Weltman can be proactive enough to build a legitimate contender. I know our ownership is a major part of the problem and their opinion would be that we our doing great improving every year and are fat, dumb and happy (literally). I would bet what they don't understand the clock is ticking and we have about a year to spend this cap space we've been misering away and we just wasted one of the windows to make improvements. If anyone knows how to contact Magic ownership and Beadle or whatever his name is at the Sentinel could you provide them. I definitely will write them and I hope everyone else does too. Sorry for the frustrated rant I just see the possibilities with this team and I don't see it happening with this FO in charge.

[GameOver25]

Bring back Otis Smith. At this point Weltman is just stealing checks.

[VFX]

Really? What was the price for Cleveland to land Donovan Mitchell? Btw we could go after LeBron this summer. I said “could”. How did Milwaukee land Damian Lillard? What about Atlanta landing DeJounte Murray? Simple, first round picks and young players. Isn’t Jalen Suggs good enough to be a big trade assets? Isn’t Wendell Carter good enough to be a big assets? What about AB and Jett? Yes, we have what it takes, man. We just need the right opportunity poping up for us


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Then you are a fool if you think trading Jalen Suggs is the answer to landing some allstar player to a team that hasn't even made the playoffs yet. And no, they aren't' yet because of the size of their contracts and the limited assets elsewhere. Orlandos picks aren't in the lotto anymore. This is pretty basic stuff here.

None of those players you listed are even thinking about Orlando as a destination until they have sustained postseason progress. Orlando can't even break away from teams playing a zone on them defensively because of their issues on offense.

I wish I was as naive as you

So by quoting you, Donovan Mitchell saw Cleveland as a destination? He doesn’t even want to be there. Damian Lillard thought Milwaukee could be the place. When DeJounte Murray was traded to Hawks, he had a choice? No, man. It is through trades. I am not saying those stars will resign with us to remain long term. But by putting a playoff team on the floor this season plus selling them a vision and future, they very likely could, my friend.

Also Suggs will be a Restricted Free Agent, which means team trading for him can hold on to him longer. So is AB and Jett plus our FRPs. I do not care what range we would be in. Three or four FRPs are a lot to offer.

If we put up a package like that, you really think we wouldn’t have a chance? At least a chance?


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Hawks and Bucks had sustained post season success and Hawks gave up A LOT of future assets banking on Trae Young. I bet they regret that decision now.

Donovan Mitchell was acquired in a huge trade package mortgaging their future and Cleveland isn't doing jack ****. They also made Garland a completely irrelevant asset in the process. Good job I guess.

Again, Orlando isn't trading Suggs. This trade deadline wasn't about getting some uber expensive allstar you dream about at night. It's about moving redundant players that don't fit with Paolo/Franz for guys that cost second round picks and role players. Failing to move Fultz, etc just means they are expiring or getting resigned. Neither do anything for us.

This isnt 2k where you press the "force trade" button. Talking about Lebron as a real option makes you sound like a TikTok and Twitter child.

[BadMofoPimp]

I watched the Fournier-Vuc years, I can definitely stomach Franz-Paolo leading our team.

Buddy ball

Rumor is Fournier about to be waived/bought out and coming back to Orlando!

[OrlChamps2030]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I’ve been here since 89’ so may as well stick around. Curious to see which 35 year old washed up vet we sign this off-season for the “experience”.

Jeff Green incoming

[drsd]

Knicks Trade Evan Fournier to Pistons; Magic Sign After Buyout?
The Orlando Magic is in desperate need of three-point shooting help, and signing a familiar face could be the answer.

Fourier in the buy-out market and his 13.3% threeball. I can;t wait!

[OrlChamps2030]

Bring back Otis Smith. At this point Weltman is just stealing checks.

I’d be surprised if Weltman is still the president of basketball ops heading into next season. Retirement or taking a step back into an advisor role seems likely coinciding with Parker getting promoted

[jonbob17]

If they hand out the deals Im expecting them to this offseason I'll probably follow suit.

They are trolling us at this point.

You cant have a bottom ranked 3 pt shooting team for 5+ seasons and fail to address the issue every year while other organizations move scraps for solutions.

That Xatticus change seemed like insanity…

Of course, I told my son this year who recently has become obsessed with football, that he should just be a fan of the good teams or football in general, so he doesn’t have to go through the ebbs and flows and still unlikely to ever see his team win a championship.

I should probably take my own advice, and there is probably not a better team to choose than OKC.

We dont change teams in Europe. I would rather not watch nba at all than cheer for any other team. Real man can endure tougher times, boys can watch tik tok or Lakers.

I’ve never had an affiliation with any European football teams, but I love watching games. I can tune in when ever I want and catch the games I want to watch cheer for any player and feel satisfied with seeing a good performance.

Like I said it was my advice to my 10 year old that he not choose a team, and he ignored my advice, just like I have ignored my own advice with the teams I like….but at the same time I have watched a lot of bad Magic teams the last 25 years. There have been ups and a lot of downs, with the way the NBA works, it’s a pretty steep mountain for Orlando.

I am a Magic-lifer, and do think we are on a pretty substantial upswing here, and I love this team, and these young guys. At the same time I wonder if I should have just hit the snooze button and watched League Pass for the last decade, and caught more Steph Curry games rather than Tobias Harris performances.

[The-Stallion70]

JW: "OH lol that was today"

[RichCollab]

Can we now make fake breaking news trades?