Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

[tooler]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Fandom is built on hope. You have to be able to “see tha vision” if you want to put up with the hard times (even a nice season like this one).

If it doesn’t look like there is a vision, it’s naturally going to cause disengagement. There are a lot of attractions for our attention beyond the NBA.

[RookieStar]

Anyone proposing Dinwiddie on the buyout market is not my friend anymore.

Why not? Theres also Joe Harris

[eyriq]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Fandom is built on hope. You have to be able to “see tha vision” if you want to put up with the hard times (even a nice season like this one).

If it doesn’t look like there is a vision, it’s naturally going to cause disengagement. There are a lot of attractions for our attention beyond the NBA.

Fair enough. But all the boogiemen are on expiring contracts and he's got 5 lotto talents on rookie contracts baking in the oven and driving the team. The vision of organic growth, strong culture, and establishing a defensive foundation is pretty clear and we are consistently pursuing it.

[VFX]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Because things don't all happen in a vacuum when you have contracts and timeframes at stake.

All things can be true simultaneously.

Unless you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend none of it matters until it does?

[Skybox]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Fandom is built on hope. You have to be able to “see tha vision” if you want to put up with the hard times (even a nice season like this one).

If it doesn’t look like there is a vision, it’s naturally going to cause disengagement. There are a lot of attractions for our attention beyond the NBA.

yep...it's optional. I'd have a really hard time moving on. I first became a rabid NBA fan when I went to school in Boston and saw Larry and the Celtics in the Gahhhden. Relocated to ORL and became a Magic fan. Season tix for years, then scaled back to a few games a year. None this year but, obviously, stll following very closely - despite hating to pay to watch local sports on Bally (cr)app. I don't know that I'm wired to pull a Xatticus...but all logic should point that way. It's optional and I don't approve or enjoy what the FO is doing.

Who am I kidding...see you tomorrow. F**K Weltman.

[The Real Dalic]

The options on the buyout market the Magic should at least look at so far are: Lowry (even though I don't like him.) Fournier, House, Harris, Curry, Morris, Bertans. Most of them are snipers or just decent bench scorers.

[SOUL]

made this to commemorate this trade deadline

[p0peye]

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Fandom is built on hope. You have to be able to “see tha vision” if you want to put up with the hard times (even a nice season like this one).

If it doesn’t look like there is a vision, it’s naturally going to cause disengagement. There are a lot of attractions for our attention beyond the NBA.

Fair enough. But all the boogiemen are on expiring contracts and he's got 5 lotto talents on rookie contracts baking in the oven and driving the team. The vision of organic growth, strong culture, and establishing a defensive foundation is pretty clear and we are consistently pursuing it.

Lot of expiring contracts are indeed a concern, but we have reasons to believe in our capability to resign all of them.

[D12VCMagic]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Fandom is built on hope. You have to be able to “see tha vision” if you want to put up with the hard times (even a nice season like this one).

If it doesn’t look like there is a vision, it’s naturally going to cause disengagement. There are a lot of attractions for our attention beyond the NBA.

For me, it’s that we have someone All Star caliber to build around and are refusing to actually build around him is what’s pissing me off. We need spacing and a PG and we are adamant about keeping our nonshooters clogging lanes for Paolo and are still trying to sell everyone on Markelle Fultz turnaround story after five freakin’ years and no return on investment. This FO’s strategy is to just take a home run swing on the tallest/athletic player in the first round every year hoping that something sticks and do nothing else. No building around anyone’s strengths or anything, just random big ass players thrown together that’s barely being held together by two very talented young forwards that will eventually get tired of this song and dance.

[KillMonger]

don't even mention the buyout market....we would have to cut a player for that to happen....don't you guys know this team is a family....they don't want to mess up the chemistry....i mean it could help us getting a shooter in here but......lets keep the family together

[thelead]

Hawks and Bucks had sustained post season success and Hawks gave up A LOT of future assets banking on Trae Young. I bet they regret that decision now.

Donovan Mitchell was acquired in a huge trade package mortgaging their future and Cleveland isn't doing jack ****. They also made Garland a completely irrelevant asset in the process. Good job I guess.

Again, Orlando isn't trading Suggs. This trade deadline wasn't about getting some uber expensive allstar you dream about at night. It's about moving redundant players that don't fit with Paolo/Franz for guys that cost second round picks and role players. Failing to move Fultz, etc just means they are expiring or getting resigned. Neither do anything for us.

This isnt 2k where you press the "force trade" button. Talking about Lebron as a real option makes you sound like a TikTok and Twitter child.

you know what's funny about this though? now that we have no expirings to work with if we want to improve the roster significantly we may have to trade suggs going forward

Yeah, except this is Weltman you are talking about. He doesn't even improve the roster minimally.

We’re going to sign a few 1+1’s this summer… we’ll get to do this all over again next trade deadline. Bank on it.

[eyriq]

I mean, a few of you sound a little ridiculous but hey, if y'all wanna root for other teams, go ahead lol

I keep having to double check our record and Paolo's all-star status to make sure I'm not imagining things. People really struggle with perspective.

Because things don't all happen in a vacuum when you have contracts and timeframes at stake.

All things can be true simultaneously.

Unless you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend none of it matters until it does?

I've come around to your position that not moving Fultz earlier wasted his trade value. He's worthless to us except as cap space at this point. Same goes for our other expiring contracts. They are worthless as trade assets now.

Whether that is "bad" is up for debate. If you want to have AB and Jett play their way into the rotation, letting Fultz and Harris expire is better than trading for upgrades that could end up as long-term blockers.

I'm kinda ok with it, TBH. I think AB is a smidge behind Suggs in potential and I think they compliment each other nicely and I want to see AB get serious burn. Using Fultz's expiring to free up a starting gig for AB is A-OK by me.

Jett, I'm not sold on but I'm not some gifted talent evaluator and I want to see what the kid can do. Weltman drafts well.

[KillMonger]

these front office mofos are too lackadaisical in an era where at any point in a players contract that can just request a trade if they feel the team isn't where they're supposed to be....we may not have as much time as people think

[BCS]

Eh, none of the players I wanted got traded so I am just going to assume the price was too high and that is fine as I didn't expect much this trade deadline. It always seemed the FO wanted to see the current team healthy and see how far they can take us before doing anything, but I fully expect changes in the offseason.

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why? what leads you to that expectation?

You have to be hopeful. Or maybe we will do much better in the playoffs than anticipated and we don't have to do anything.

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[eyriq]

these front office mofos are too lackadaisical in an era where at any point in a players contract that can just request a trade if they feel the team isn't where they're supposed to be....we may not have as much time as people think

Players on rookie contracts don't behave like this. We aren't in a win now phase and won't be for two more seasons I think?

[The Real Dalic]

these front office mofos are too lackadaisical in an era where at any point in a players contract that can just request a trade if they feel the team isn't where they're supposed to be....we may not have as much time as people think

Players on rookie contracts don't behave like this. We aren't in a win now phase and won't be for two more seasons I think?

If they did, Cade would've asked out long ago.

[tiderulz]

Eh, none of the players I wanted got traded so I am just going to assume the price was too high and that is fine as I didn't expect much this trade deadline. It always seemed the FO wanted to see the current team healthy and see how far they can take us before doing anything, but I fully expect changes in the offseason.

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why? what leads you to that expectation?

You have to be hopeful. Or maybe we will do much better in the playoffs than anticipated and we don't have to do anything.

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based on track record, i dont expect any real changes in the offseason

[KillMonger]

these front office mofos are too lackadaisical in an era where at any point in a players contract that can just request a trade if they feel the team isn't where they're supposed to be....we may not have as much time as people think

Players on rookie contracts don't behave like this. We aren't in a win now phase and won't be for two more seasons I think?

shouldn't you be in win now after you get your stars? i feel like that clock started as soon as we got paolo....some of the issues we have now isn't really something new and should be getting addressed by now right? we're going to solve the shooting and spacing issues this offseason right?

[VFX]

you know what's funny about this though? now that we have no expirings to work with if we want to improve the roster significantly we may have to trade suggs going forward

Yeah, except this is Weltman you are talking about. He doesn't even improve the roster minimally.

We’re going to sign a few 1+1’s this summer… we’ll get to do this all over again next trade deadline. Bank on it.

cant be too sure yet. evaluation and all that.

[thelead]

Yeah, except this is Weltman you are talking about. He doesn't even improve the roster minimally.

We’re going to sign a few 1+1’s this summer… we’ll get to do this all over again next trade deadline. Bank on it.

cant be too sure yet. evaluation and all that.

Oh, you thought I meant new players?

No, no. Markelle is going to get a 1+1. Possibly Goga as well on an overpay for the year to make him happy.