Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings, Blah Blah 14.0 Eddie Najera Edicion

[SkyHook]

Kris Dunn not getting moved is weird, he could have really helped the Bucks.

Keep in mind Danny Bleepin' Ainge. Dunn is arguably Utah's best perimeter defender and facilitator.

The best thing about the deadline for the Jazz (to me) is that they kept Dunn. The only guard who consistently gets the Jazz into a non-iso offense and who prioritizes passing to Lauri. And he's "the greatest guard defender in the world".

[zimpy27]

sad that I again have some faith in Dallas’ chances with a free agent? Recent good history, pretty good chemistry with Luka..

if this is Spencer related, he turned a flamethrower on Dallas after he was traded. Now he always does this, so I'm not sure it actually means anything towards his openness to a return. Clearly Dallas understands that its just him being him.

I want to know if Marcus would sign if we waived his brother? I know we have a spot for both atm, but say they did sign Spencer. Could we trade the useless twin for the slightly less useless one?

Marcus makes more sense for you guys as backup PF.

[zimpy27]

I really like OKC's move.

SGA, Jalen, Giddey, Hayward, Holmgren
Cason, Joe, Dort, Kenrich, Buyout (Biyombo?)
Buyout, Wiggins, Dieng, Poku, Jaylin


Now in offseason they have that above squad minus Hayward and Poku with $40m capspace.

Some of that gets eaten with draft capital but I think OKC can add free quality pieces in 2024 offseason and be top contender in 2024-25 season.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

It's year 4 and i still don't know what Orlando is trying to do outside of hand out BIG 1+1 deals to aging vets, draft BPA, trade 2nds for future 2nds and ignore the glaring need for a PG.

I'm ready to be hurt again in FA when we give Fultz 3/30M

[jayjaysee]

sad that I again have some faith in Dallas’ chances with a free agent? Recent good history, pretty good chemistry with Luka..

if this is Spencer related, he turned a flamethrower on Dallas after he was traded. Now he always does this, so I'm not sure it actually means anything towards his openness to a return. Clearly Dallas understands that its just him being him.

I want to know if Marcus would sign if we waived his brother? I know we have a spot for both atm, but say they did sign Spencer. Could we trade the useless twin for the slightly less useless one?

I was in on Dinwiddie return.. Id like that more than Morris honestly. But I’m really comfortable with the 4 bigs Dallas has now. And DJJ has grown on me. I’d take both..

I think the brothers should acknowledge that one no longer is an NBA player.. just because the team waives him, doesn’t mean he can’t still hang around right?

[zimpy27]

Are Raptors trying to tank or make playoffs?

IQ, GTJ, RJ, Barnes, Poeltl -- Brown, Dick, Ochai, Boucher, Olynyk

I kind of think they got better..


And it makes sense, better to give the 2024 FRP than the 2025 FRP.

[HartfordWhalers]

I think the story of this deadline is that Chicago blew it. If they had 2 1sts for Caruso, 3 2nds for Drummond, anything for Derozan, they could have started to rebuild. Instead where are they?

[Scoot McGroot]

I think the story of this deadline is that Chicago blew it. If they had 2 1sts for Caruso, 3 2nds for Drummond, anything for Derozan, they could have started to rebuild. Instead where are they?

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[Mavrelous]

If the Mavs sign Dinwiddie for the rest of the MLE, does it count fully against the cap, or partially?

[Scoot McGroot]

If the Mavs sign Dinwiddie for the rest of the MLE, does it count fully against the cap, or partially?

Exceptions are prorated as the season goes on. Whatever they pay Dinwiddie would count completely against the cap.

[jayjaysee]

Are Raptors trying to tank or make playoffs?

IQ, GTJ, RJ, Barnes, Poeltl -- Brown, Dick, Ochai, Boucher, Olynyk

I kind of think they got better..


And it makes sense, better to give the 2024 FRP than the 2025 FRP.

Yeah it was a weird set of moves they made.

If tanking, why not flip Kelly for another second or two. Or keep Kelly as the stopgap and get a first for Poeltl (what I thought was going to happen)

If pushing for the playin, why not find a different way to save a couple mil than Dinwiddie who would’ve been a decent fit..

But I don’t see enough teams tanking that makes it make sense for Toronto honestly. Brooklyn has no pick and will continue to try to make play-in. Atlanta and Chicago didn’t sell..

They might be able to get to 9th? Instead of sticking at 6th/7th and at least having a 35% or 44% chance of keeping the pick this year.. and if they give SAS the 7th or 8th pick instead of the 9th or 10th. who cares.. the pick debt is over.

[Mavrelous]

If the Mavs sign Dinwiddie for the rest of the MLE, does it count fully against the cap, or partially?

Exceptions are prorated as the season goes on. Whatever they pay Dinwiddie would count completely against the cap.

Thanks, so basically, Mavs have 2.65 tax room, and 5.5 MLE, if they pay anyhting more than 2.65 prorated, they'll be taxpayers?

[gswhoops]

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[Captain_Obvious]

If the Mavs sign Dinwiddie for the rest of the MLE, does it count fully against the cap, or partially?

Exceptions are prorated as the season goes on. Whatever they pay Dinwiddie would count completely against the cap.

Thanks, so basically, Mavs have 2.65 tax room, and 5.5 MLE, if they pay anyhting more than 2.65 prorated, they'll be taxpayers?

I gather as much. However, what is the downside of being a taxpayer? I understand we can't pick up more bought out players (if that player makes a certain amount), but who cares really? Or are we talking about the dreaded 2nd apron here?

[Scoot McGroot]

If the Mavs sign Dinwiddie for the rest of the MLE, does it count fully against the cap, or partially?

Exceptions are prorated as the season goes on. Whatever they pay Dinwiddie would count completely against the cap.

Thanks, so basically, Mavs have 2.65 tax room, and 5.5 MLE, if they pay anyhting more than 2.65 prorated, they'll be taxpayers?

Yes. They have $5.45m left of the MLE, but that would be prorated for how far into the season they are. But if they spend more than the $2.65m in tax room, then they would be over the tax.

[Scoot McGroot]

Exceptions are prorated as the season goes on. Whatever they pay Dinwiddie would count completely against the cap.

Thanks, so basically, Mavs have 2.65 tax room, and 5.5 MLE, if they pay anyhting more than 2.65 prorated, they'll be taxpayers?

I gather as much. However, what is the downside of being a taxpayer? I understand we can't pick up more bought out players (if that player makes a certain amount), but who cares really? Or are we talking about the dreaded 2nd apron here?

You would pay a luxury tax on the salary you are over the tax line. You would also lose out on The tax distribution payments from the league, and you would add a year towards possibly having repeater tax payments start.

But the rule of not being able to pick up certain players only applies to “Apron teams”, of which Dallas wouldn’t be even if they used their remaining MLE. And if they used their remaining MLE, they would be hard capped at the apron, so they couldn’t even cross that line.

[Captain_Obvious]

Thanks, so basically, Mavs have 2.65 tax room, and 5.5 MLE, if they pay anyhting more than 2.65 prorated, they'll be taxpayers?

I gather as much. However, what is the downside of being a taxpayer? I understand we can't pick up more bought out players (if that player makes a certain amount), but who cares really? Or are we talking about the dreaded 2nd apron here?

You would pay a luxury tax on the salary you are over the tax line. You would also lose out on The tax distribution payments from the league, and you would add a year towards possibly having repeater tax payments start.

But the rule of not being able to pick up certain players only applies to “Apron teams”, of which Dallas wouldn’t be even if they used their remaining MLE. And if they used their remaining MLE, they would be hard capped at the apron, so they couldn’t even cross that line.

Thanks for clearing that up

I'll be honest. Throw him the 5 millions. LAL can only offer 1 mil. Tax is not my problem

[K_chile22]

Weird there was absolutely no noise on Bitadze given he's not playing anymore, near lock to walk in FA and there's so many center needy teams

[bondom34]

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[Tripod]

Are Raptors trying to tank or make playoffs?

IQ, GTJ, RJ, Barnes, Poeltl -- Brown, Dick, Ochai, Boucher, Olynyk

I kind of think they got better..


And it makes sense, better to give the 2024 FRP than the 2025 FRP.

They are trying to add pieces that make sense. Now hear me out...lol.

Schroeder openly said he was promised the starting PG position and was not happy coming off the bench. Add in that Darko loved him, and used him at times instead of the young guys to develop, and Masai had to step in and remove him.

Dim would have caused the same lockerroom issues and Masai didn't want that around the young guys. And add in, tge deal creates more cap space next year for a "re-do" on a backup PG that KNOWS that's his role.

Masai said after the Siakam deal he would not use all the picks in the 2024 draft on draft picks. He likely wants to keep the #31 from Detroit due to the cheaper cap hit that guy gets. And of course, keep the Indy pick since it's likely much better than the one he traded.

As for the Jazz trade itself, they have had to use Thad Young as the backup C and their #3 C is hurt(2-way Porter ). Adding Olynyk gives them a backup C that can hit a 3. And all the talk up here is they want to sign him to a deal to fill that position the next few years. That will give time for JPorter to prove if he can become that or if they draft a C, it buys time. Ochai is a good POA defender on guards and the Raps have that hole open since OG was traded....need a 3+D guy to develop. So in the end, the Raps might fill 2 rotation holes with a pick #27-30 is great value.

Then add in that now Barnes doesn't "need" to run around chasing guards and also banging against C's in D, and instead should get more PG reps for his development on offense, and things as a whole make more sense.

In a press conference, Webster(GM) made the comment about SAS getting the pick this year. Seems like they are quite ok with it and the more important thing is for these new guys to get reps together, build chemistry, and build a new team culture.

Oh, and still have 2 picks in the top 31 this year and an extra 1st in 2026 to keep building the future.