Official Immanuel Quickley Thread

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[WuTang_CMB]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10101738-2020-nba-re-draft-tyrese-haliburton-vs-anthony-edwards-vs-lamelo-ball-who-ya-got

7th: Quickley

Originally Picked 25th

Like Cole Anthony, Immanuel Quickley has spent much of his career coming off the bench. And he won't get many chances to prove himself as a starter with the New York Knicks (thanks to Jalen Brunson's stardom).

But his production, basically since the start of his rookie campaign, suggests he could more than survive in that role.

Over the course of his career, Quickley is in the top 100 for box plus/minus, with averages of 19.9 points, 4.7 assists and 2.9 threes per 75 possessions and a 36.7 three-point percentage.

And while his slight, 6'3" frame may prevent him from ever being a high-end perimeter defender, he competes on that end and is opportunistic when potential steals arise

[canada_dry]

As one of the main vocal advocates for having him on this team the past years...

Ive been pretty disappointed in quickley. When are we gonna have that conversation?

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[LoveMyRaps]

As one of the main vocal advocates for having him on this team the past years...

Ive been pretty disappointed in quickley. When are we gonna have that conversation?

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He's been solid and continues to look better every game.
17ppg and 6apg while shooting 44% from deep (on 6.3 attempts per game).

I think you were just expecting way too much right off the bat.

He's had to deal with an injury and the rotations have constantly been changing with lots of moving pieces.
The team barely has any chemistry right now and that's affecting Quickley accordingly.

Let's see how he does in the second half of the season. I think he'll average close to 20ppg and improve his shooting efficiency as well.

[Pointgod]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10101738-2020-nba-re-draft-tyrese-haliburton-vs-anthony-edwards-vs-lamelo-ball-who-ya-got

7th: Quickley

Originally Picked 25th

Like Cole Anthony, Immanuel Quickley has spent much of his career coming off the bench. And he won't get many chances to prove himself as a starter with the New York Knicks (thanks to Jalen Brunson's stardom).

But his production, basically since the start of his rookie campaign, suggests he could more than survive in that role.

Over the course of his career, Quickley is in the top 100 for box plus/minus, with averages of 19.9 points, 4.7 assists and 2.9 threes per 75 possessions and a 36.7 three-point percentage.

And while his slight, 6'3" frame may prevent him from ever being a high-end perimeter defender, he competes on that end and is opportunistic when potential steals arise

I’m taking Quick’s potential over Vassell’s steady production.

[Rapsfan07]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10101738-2020-nba-re-draft-tyrese-haliburton-vs-anthony-edwards-vs-lamelo-ball-who-ya-got

7th: Quickley

Originally Picked 25th

Like Cole Anthony, Immanuel Quickley has spent much of his career coming off the bench. And he won't get many chances to prove himself as a starter with the New York Knicks (thanks to Jalen Brunson's stardom).

But his production, basically since the start of his rookie campaign, suggests he could more than survive in that role.

Over the course of his career, Quickley is in the top 100 for box plus/minus, with averages of 19.9 points, 4.7 assists and 2.9 threes per 75 possessions and a 36.7 three-point percentage.

And while his slight, 6'3" frame may prevent him from ever being a high-end perimeter defender, he competes on that end and is opportunistic when potential steals arise

I’m taking Quick’s potential over Vassell’s steady production.

I think I'd prefer Vassell, due to his size. At least so far, anyway.

I'm not sure Quick is actually a PG. Thinking he may be a small SG

[ForeverTFC]

As one of the main vocal advocates for having him on this team the past years...

Ive been pretty disappointed in quickley. When are we gonna have that conversation?

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Depends on your expectations. I wasn’t high on him and thought the idea that he’s the best player in the OG trade was very disrespectful to OG. From that vantage, I’ve liked him enough.

I think we’re forcing him to create too much. He should be looking to score first any time he has the ball. Lead guard =/= PG. The whole idea was that he’d fit well as a score first lead guard next to Scottie’s creation role.

[anotherhomer]

As one of the main vocal advocates for having him on this team the past years...

Ive been pretty disappointed in quickley. When are we gonna have that conversation?

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Depends on your expectations. I wasn’t high on him and thought the idea that he’s the best player in the OG trade was very disrespectful to OG. From that vantage, I’ve liked him enough.

I think we’re forcing him to create too much. He should be looking to score first any time he has the ball. Lead guard =/= PG. The whole idea was that he’d fit well as a score first lead guard next to Scottie’s creation role.

IQ shown flashes and I think he has a ceiling to offer

[Basketball_Jones]

Passes up too many 3’s for my liking. Perhaps protecting the percentages but it’s much better to take them because his two point attempts look really bad aside from the occasional floater

[canada_dry]

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[canada_dry]

As one of the main vocal advocates for having him on this team the past years...

Ive been pretty disappointed in quickley. When are we gonna have that conversation?

Sent from my SM-G960W using RealGM mobile app

He's been solid and continues to look better every game.
17ppg and 6apg while shooting 44% from deep (on 6.3 attempts per game).

I think you were just expecting way too much right off the bat.

He's had to deal with an injury and the rotations have constantly been changing with lots of moving pieces.
The team barely has any chemistry right now and that's affecting Quickley accordingly.

Let's see how he does in the second half of the season. I think he'll average close to 20ppg and improve his shooting efficiency as well.

Hes too passive. We dont need more.of that in the starting 5.

He needs to firstly shoot more 3s , those attempts you listed are too low compared to the oppurtunities, especially pull ups, and even darko has said so, and his ability to beat his man off the dribble firstly is underwhelming, and his finishing when he he gets there is frankly not good. Thats not even to say how he's struggled from the floater range because i expect that to improve because he has a history of excelling there. Hes also supposed to be a mid range killer and he just hasnt been so far.

The stats are OKAY...but the eye test really leaves a lot to be desired...so far.

He needs to develop to be the guy the FO thought they were acquiring, but the extent of how much he needs to develop based on what we have seen this far is a bit surprising. I think Hes further behind than what a lot of people thought or hoped for, particularly within the 3 point line. Maybe its just a cold streak or nerves but his ability to create the looks make or miss has been...not good.

I still have hope but im just saying...so far.

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[canada_dry]

Passes up too many 3’s for my liking. Perhaps protecting the percentages but it’s much better to take them because his two point attempts look really bad aside from the occasional floater

Agreed.

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[seanbig]

Maybe I was wrong to declare him maxey lite
He’s basically gtj with a floater and horrible defense and horrible clutch efficiency

His belly button shot just isn’t it

I’m higher on Barrett even though he’s not a lot better ( well he was a toxic asset so no expectations)

[gbball]

I've been really disappointed with Quickly, and I didn't really expect that much in the first place. Luckily RJ has been good. But I would've preferred we keep OG or if we did trade him, trade him for Sharpe.

I don't want this version of Quickly on the team. I'm not writing him off. But hopefully his contract is reasonable and he's better next season.

[LoveMyRaps]

I've been really disappointed with Quickly, and I didn't really expect that much in the first place. Luckily RJ has been good. But I would've preferred we keep OG or if we did trade him, trade him for Sharpe.

I don't want this version of Quickly on the team. I'm not writing him off. But hopefully his contract is reasonable and he's better next season.

Yeah, I would've preferred OG "Street Clothes" Anunoby over Quickley too. Because you know he's so much more effective sitting on the bench.

[canada_dry]

Maybe I was wrong to declare him maxey lite
He’s basically gtj with a floater and horrible defense and horrible clutch efficiency

His belly button shot just isn’t it

I’m higher on Barrett even though he’s not a lot better ( well he was a toxic asset so no expectations)

Don't call him a toxic asset lol. That was laughed off as not.serious almost immediately. Don't give it any credibility, it has none.

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[hst420]

This guy has an efficient floater?.. well thus far it is MIA.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Quickley's production with the Knicks earlier this season (23/4/4 per36 on 60 TS%) isn't that far off from what he's been doing with us so far (19/5/7 per36 on 55 TS%)

Those numbers are pretty far off from each other man. 55% is below league average and 60% is above league average. A 5% swing in TS is a huge difference, and so is a 4-pt drop off. 19 ppg per 36 is not great, that puts him the same ranges as bench players like Cole Anthony and Caris Levert. It's nice that Quickley has upped his assists, but we don't need to pat him on the back either for becoming an average play-maker. 7 apg per36 is basically average for a starting PG. Schroeder is averaging 7 apg per36. I don't think anyone's going to accuse Schroeder of being a good play-maker.

IQ clearly has potential as a player from his 3-pt shooting alone, but it's intellectually dishonest to pretend like he's more than what he is right now. He's not some blue chip prospect like Scottie who we can truly expect to improve continuously. He's producing at the same level as other high level bench players right now, and if he plays like this next year, then any contract we give him is undoubtedly going to be a huge overpay. Any contract we give him is going to be a gamble on potential, not production.

I mean yeah clearly he isn't comparable to a player like Barnes who is averaging like 21/6 per 36...with mediocre TS%...wait a minute...maybe...there's not such a great difference afterall. *GASP*. Quickley has a 119 offensive rating on BBall reference which isn't unheard of but its pretty damn good for someone taking such a role in the offense. And that's low for him looking back a season and a half on the knicks.

Less turnovers than Barnes as well, not close.

[Thaddy]

Not a core piece, that's for certain.

[Kingsway_fan]

Not a core piece, that's for certain.

Masai will extend him and Birch 2.0 and call it a successful offseason.