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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1581 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:17 am

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Gant wrote:Options:

1) Sign a free agent. Don't covert Queta.
2) Sign a free agent. Cut Svi. Convert Queta.
3) Don't sign a free agent. Convert Queta.
4) Do nothing, which is very unlikely.

There are more technically possible options but it'll be one of the above. Whatever they do, they don't have to rush to convert Queta, as something unexpected could happen in the buyout world.


Haven't heard anyone discuss this idea, but are we sure JD isn't the most likely 2-way to get converted? He seems like he has now exhausted the usefulness of the G league. And with Tillman in the fold, I think there is more need for a guard than a big. I'm not sure JD is ready, I don't expect him to be a playoff contributor, but it seems like the C's will need to sign him soon or let some other team do it. He's arguably been the player in the G league this year.


Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1582 » by 165bows » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:37 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Gant wrote:Options:

1) Sign a free agent. Don't covert Queta.
2) Sign a free agent. Cut Svi. Convert Queta.
3) Don't sign a free agent. Convert Queta.
4) Do nothing, which is very unlikely.

There are more technically possible options but it'll be one of the above. Whatever they do, they don't have to rush to convert Queta, as something unexpected could happen in the buyout world.


Haven't heard anyone discuss this idea, but are we sure JD isn't the most likely 2-way to get converted? He seems like he has now exhausted the usefulness of the G league. And with Tillman in the fold, I think there is more need for a guard than a big. I'm not sure JD is ready, I don't expect him to be a playoff contributor, but it seems like the C's will need to sign him soon or let some other team do it. He's arguably been the player in the G league this year.


Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.

Agree it’s a pretty tough path for JD next year with the number of guys on the roster and the guards currently in front of him.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1583 » by snowman » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:25 am

RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Gant wrote:Options:

1) Sign a free agent. Don't covert Queta.
2) Sign a free agent. Cut Svi. Convert Queta.
3) Don't sign a free agent. Convert Queta.
4) Do nothing, which is very unlikely.

There are more technically possible options but it'll be one of the above. Whatever they do, they don't have to rush to convert Queta, as something unexpected could happen in the buyout world.


Haven't heard anyone discuss this idea, but are we sure JD isn't the most likely 2-way to get converted? He seems like he has now exhausted the usefulness of the G league. And with Tillman in the fold, I think there is more need for a guard than a big. I'm not sure JD is ready, I don't expect him to be a playoff contributor, but it seems like the C's will need to sign him soon or let some other team do it. He's arguably been the player in the G league this year.


Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.


Of course, Tatum, Brown, White and Porzingis from the starters will be back. Holiday has already said he wants to come back, but we have heard that before from He that will remain nameless. However, this feels like a different situation, and I expect something to be worked out. Brad didn't give up what he did for a one-year rental of Holiday. So that means, IMO, we will have the same starting unit back next season. Horford only has one more year on his deal, but even if we win the whole thing, I expect him back. He just looks like he is having too much fun not to come back. Hauser's option will be picked up and Pritchard just signed a deal, so I think both will be back. Brad just traded for Tillman, and he is just 25, so I expect him to be resigned, and Springer has another year left on his rookie deal, so I expect both of them back. Walsh is still on his rookie deal, so he will be back. Brissett has a player option, so I agree, unless he blows up in the play offs and gets a big offer, he will be back. I expect Kornet to be resigned and Queta to get a regular contract even if we resign Tillman. With Horford's age and Porzingis's injury history, we can't have too many backup big men. That, in my mind is 14 spots taken, with Svi allowed to walk. I think Brad was getting what he could as depth this season, due to the fact that next season will be too costly to sign or trade for anyone. Brad will either trade our first-round pick, which is highly likely, or he will trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. Then, he can choose which 2nd round pick and/or picks will replenish the two-way spots that open up with Queta moving to the big club, and who, if anyone he wants to fill the 15th spot.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1584 » by Parliament10 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:27 am

snowman wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Haven't heard anyone discuss this idea, but are we sure JD isn't the most likely 2-way to get converted? He seems like he has now exhausted the usefulness of the G league. And with Tillman in the fold, I think there is more need for a guard than a big. I'm not sure JD is ready, I don't expect him to be a playoff contributor, but it seems like the C's will need to sign him soon or let some other team do it. He's arguably been the player in the G league this year.


Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.


Of course, Tatum, Brown, White and Porzingis from the starters will be back. Holiday has already said he wants to come back, but we have heard that before from He that will remain nameless. However, this feels like a different situation, and I expect something to be worked out. Brad didn't give up what he did for a one-year rental of Holiday. So that means, IMO, we will have the same starting unit back next season. Horford only has one more year on his deal, but even if we win the whole thing, I expect him back. He just looks like he is having too much fun not to come back. Hauser's option will be picked up and Pritchard just signed a deal, so I think both will be back. Brad just traded for Tillman, and he is just 25, so I expect him to be resigned, and Springer has another year left on his rookie deal, so I expect both of them back. Walsh is still on his rookie deal, so he will be back. Brissett has a player option, so I agree, unless he blows up in the play offs and gets a big offer, he will be back. I expect Kornet to be resigned and Queta to get a regular contract even if we resign Tillman. With Horford's age and Porzingis's injury history, we can't have too many backup big men. That, in my mind is 14 spots taken, with Svi allowed to walk. I think Brad was getting what he could as depth this season, due to the fact that next season will be too costly to sign or trade for anyone. Brad will either trade our first-round pick, which is highly likely, or he will trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. Then, he can choose which 2nd round pick and/or picks will replenish the two-way spots that open up with Queta moving to the big club, and who, if anyone he wants to fill the 15th spot.

Totally Agree with all this. -- The only one's that I wonder about are our Two-Ways, Queta, Davison and Peterson.
They have all done well this year. And I think that it's time to move them up; except maybe Peterson.

JD = will be on his 3rd yr, so the Celtics cannot re-sign him to a Two-Way.
Queta = should Not be on a Two-Way. Though, I do believe that he is eligible for another year.
Peterson = has 3 more years of eligibility.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1585 » by RickyDizzle » Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:53 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
snowman wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.


Of course, Tatum, Brown, White and Porzingis from the starters will be back. Holiday has already said he wants to come back, but we have heard that before from He that will remain nameless. However, this feels like a different situation, and I expect something to be worked out. Brad didn't give up what he did for a one-year rental of Holiday. So that means, IMO, we will have the same starting unit back next season. Horford only has one more year on his deal, but even if we win the whole thing, I expect him back. He just looks like he is having too much fun not to come back. Hauser's option will be picked up and Pritchard just signed a deal, so I think both will be back. Brad just traded for Tillman, and he is just 25, so I expect him to be resigned, and Springer has another year left on his rookie deal, so I expect both of them back. Walsh is still on his rookie deal, so he will be back. Brissett has a player option, so I agree, unless he blows up in the play offs and gets a big offer, he will be back. I expect Kornet to be resigned and Queta to get a regular contract even if we resign Tillman. With Horford's age and Porzingis's injury history, we can't have too many backup big men. That, in my mind is 14 spots taken, with Svi allowed to walk. I think Brad was getting what he could as depth this season, due to the fact that next season will be too costly to sign or trade for anyone. Brad will either trade our first-round pick, which is highly likely, or he will trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. Then, he can choose which 2nd round pick and/or picks will replenish the two-way spots that open up with Queta moving to the big club, and who, if anyone he wants to fill the 15th spot.

Totally Agree with all this. -- The only one's that I wonder about are our Two-Ways, Queta, Davison and Peterson.
They have all done well this year. And I think that it's time to move them up; except maybe Peterson.

JD = will be on his 3rd yr, so the Celtics cannot re-sign him to a Two-Way.
Queta = should Not be on a Two-Way. Though, I do believe that he is eligible for another year.
Peterson = has 3 more years of eligibility.


Seems like we're all on the same page. What do folks think of moving on from Kornet to make room for others? If he doesn't play much in the playoffs, I'd rather have someone with more potential. If you replace Svi with JD next year, still no room for Queta, draft picks, or free agents. Brissets decent enough, but I sort of hope he declines his player option and opts for the open market. We can give Tillman his minutes. Tillman should be able to play 4 with Horford, Porzingis, or Kornet (if he's back).
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1587 » by Hal14 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
snowman wrote:
RickyDizzle wrote:
Replying to myself here, but who do we think will not be on the team next year:

- Svi - think this is the only one thats basically a lock.
- Springer? He has a team option for $4 million, not sure that is a great contract, but they just gave up a pick for the guy.
- Kornet? I like a little more upside with Queta, but Kornet has played well, knows his role, and is fine with not playing, etc. Seems like a Brad Stevens favorite.
- Tillman? Just traded two picks for him and is better than everyone on this list other than Horford. They should try to resign him.
- Brissett? He has a player option for $2.5 mil. I think he picks it up to stay. Unless he has some epic playoff moments that raise his profile and lead to him testing the open market.
- Horford may retire if we win it all, not convinced he comes back for that second year if he accomplishes the goal of winning a title.

It doesn't seem like a whole lot of room for Queta, JD, and some new draft picks. Not sure if Begarin or Madar try to come over at any point either. Personally, I think there is only room for one of Tillman and Brissett and likely room for only Kornet or Queta and not both.

Do we still have our own first and two seconds this draft? Seems like we need to do the opposite last year and try to consolidate picks to get one better prospect. Trade Brissett, #30, both 2nds and try to pick in the low 20's or something.


Of course, Tatum, Brown, White and Porzingis from the starters will be back. Holiday has already said he wants to come back, but we have heard that before from He that will remain nameless. However, this feels like a different situation, and I expect something to be worked out. Brad didn't give up what he did for a one-year rental of Holiday. So that means, IMO, we will have the same starting unit back next season. Horford only has one more year on his deal, but even if we win the whole thing, I expect him back. He just looks like he is having too much fun not to come back. Hauser's option will be picked up and Pritchard just signed a deal, so I think both will be back. Brad just traded for Tillman, and he is just 25, so I expect him to be resigned, and Springer has another year left on his rookie deal, so I expect both of them back. Walsh is still on his rookie deal, so he will be back. Brissett has a player option, so I agree, unless he blows up in the play offs and gets a big offer, he will be back. I expect Kornet to be resigned and Queta to get a regular contract even if we resign Tillman. With Horford's age and Porzingis's injury history, we can't have too many backup big men. That, in my mind is 14 spots taken, with Svi allowed to walk. I think Brad was getting what he could as depth this season, due to the fact that next season will be too costly to sign or trade for anyone. Brad will either trade our first-round pick, which is highly likely, or he will trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. Then, he can choose which 2nd round pick and/or picks will replenish the two-way spots that open up with Queta moving to the big club, and who, if anyone he wants to fill the 15th spot.

Totally Agree with all this. -- The only one's that I wonder about are our Two-Ways, Queta, Davison and Peterson.
They have all done well this year. And I think that it's time to move them up; except maybe Peterson.

JD = will be on his 3rd yr, so the Celtics cannot re-sign him to a Two-Way.
Queta = should Not be on a Two-Way. Though, I do believe that he is eligible for another year.
Peterson = has 3 more years of eligibility.

You can only be on a 2-way for 3 years. And you can only be on a 2-way for 2 years with the same franchise.

So this is the last season JD can be on a 2-way for us..but he could sign a 2-way for a different team next season. Queta can't be on a 2-way for any team after this season. And Peterson has 2 more seasons he's eligible for a 2-way, but only 1 more season he can be on a 2-way for Boston. With that being said, Peterson turns 25 early next season - you don't typically see guys that old on a 2-way..
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1588 » by Hal14 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:25 pm

This thread will be boring for awhile now if all we have to discuss is Danuel House, Gallo, Thad Youg and Ish Smith haha..
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Post#1589 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:38 pm

Hal14 wrote:This thread will be boring for awhile now if all we have to discuss is Danuel House, Gallo, Thad Youg and Ish Smith haha..

It will heat up when people think Jaylen Brown is going to be traded. That topic is better than a championship to 50% of the people in this forum.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1590 » by Parliament10 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:44 pm

Hal14 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:
snowman wrote:
Of course, Tatum, Brown, White and Porzingis from the starters will be back. Holiday has already said he wants to come back, but we have heard that before from He that will remain nameless. However, this feels like a different situation, and I expect something to be worked out. Brad didn't give up what he did for a one-year rental of Holiday. So that means, IMO, we will have the same starting unit back next season. Horford only has one more year on his deal, but even if we win the whole thing, I expect him back. He just looks like he is having too much fun not to come back. Hauser's option will be picked up and Pritchard just signed a deal, so I think both will be back. Brad just traded for Tillman, and he is just 25, so I expect him to be resigned, and Springer has another year left on his rookie deal, so I expect both of them back. Walsh is still on his rookie deal, so he will be back. Brissett has a player option, so I agree, unless he blows up in the play offs and gets a big offer, he will be back. I expect Kornet to be resigned and Queta to get a regular contract even if we resign Tillman. With Horford's age and Porzingis's injury history, we can't have too many backup big men. That, in my mind is 14 spots taken, with Svi allowed to walk. I think Brad was getting what he could as depth this season, due to the fact that next season will be too costly to sign or trade for anyone. Brad will either trade our first-round pick, which is highly likely, or he will trade down and pick up more 2nd round picks. Then, he can choose which 2nd round pick and/or picks will replenish the two-way spots that open up with Queta moving to the big club, and who, if anyone he wants to fill the 15th spot.

Totally Agree with all this. -- The only one's that I wonder about are our Two-Ways, Queta, Davison and Peterson.
They have all done well this year. And I think that it's time to move them up; except maybe Peterson.

JD = will be on his 3rd yr, so the Celtics cannot re-sign him to a Two-Way.
Queta = should Not be on a Two-Way. Though, I do believe that he is eligible for another year.
Peterson = has 3 more years of eligibility.

You can only be on a 2-way for 3 years. And you can only be on a 2-way for 2 years with the same franchise.

So this is the last season JD can be on a 2-way for us..but he could sign a 2-way for a different team next season. Queta can't be on a 2-way for any team after this season. And Peterson has 2 more seasons he's eligible for a 2-way, but only 1 more season he can be on a 2-way for Boston. With that being said, Peterson turns 25 early next season - you don't typically see guys that old on a 2-way..

They changed it from 3 years on Two-Ways, to 4 years.
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1591 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:46 pm

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Post#1593 » by JaMarco » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm

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Good, didn't want him. I want Cs to get Gallo.
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Post#1594 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:05 pm

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Good, didn't want him. I want Cs to get Gallo.


Brad Stevens is going to pick someone totally out of the blue or no one. You know that :lol:
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Post#1595 » by JaMarco » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:07 pm

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Good, didn't want him. I want Cs to get Gallo.


Brad Stevens is going to pick someone totally out of the blue or no one. You know that :lol:

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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1596 » by Hal14 » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:55 pm

Now that Thad Young is off the board, give me House, Gallo or Ish.

Like you guys said though, Brad will probably surprise us with someone else..
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1597 » by Memokerobi » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:05 pm

Hal14 wrote:Now that Thad Young is off the board, give me House, Gallo or Ish.

Like you guys said though, Brad will probably surprise us with someone else..


I'd take House, he'd be a good option to have at the end of the bench. 3 is suspect but better than Brissett's, good size and playoff experience. Would have no problems throwing him in a playoff game for a few mins if something's wrong
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1598 » by KamikazeK » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:06 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
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Everyone wants to play with Kyrie and Luka :lol:

That's WILD. "Go play with Luka and Kyrie? nah let me just rot in Washington with Poole"
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1599 » by Memokerobi » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:09 pm

KamikazeK wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
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Everyone wants to play with Kyrie and Luka :lol:

That's WILD. "Go play with Luka and Kyrie? nah let me just rot in Washington with Poole"


Eh. living in DC making 25 mil a year while playing under 0 pressure sounds better to me than having to deal with Kyrie every day :lol:
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Re: Buyout/Free Agent Thread, 2023-24 

Post#1600 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:31 am

Hot take: There's a better chance we sign JD Davison to a 4-year contract (via Second Round Exception, if that's possible) than sign Queta to a 2-year deal.

But my prediction is we sign neither to regular contracts. Use final roster spot to someone we never saw coming.

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