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**The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two**

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1101 » by winforlose » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:12 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT improve a lot this year. Specially on the defensive part and the way he play with Rudy. Hope he can maintain this level all season long.


There was a time when KAT and Naz just couldn’t play together. Now not only can KAT and Naz play together successfully, they can do so with Rudy. That is just so wild to me. That an all NBA center can actually successfully play SF for competitive minutes, and for an actual positive net rating.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1102 » by TimberKat » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:51 pm

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FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT improve a lot this year. Specially on the defensive part and the way he play with Rudy. Hope he can maintain this level all season long.


There was a time when KAT and Naz just couldn’t play together. Now not only can KAT and Naz play together successfully, they can do so with Rudy. That is just so wild to me. That an all NBA center can actually successfully play SF for competitive minutes, and for an actual positive net rating.

Naz wasn't really a center and Towns was never a traditional center either. You play the position that you can guard. It's like Holmgren and Wemby. In Naz's case, since he can't really guard any position, so you can say he play any position equally well except pg :D
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1103 » by Folklore » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:31 pm

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FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT improve a lot this year. Specially on the defensive part and the way he play with Rudy. Hope he can maintain this level all season long.


There was a time when KAT and Naz just couldn’t play together. Now not only can KAT and Naz play together successfully, they can do so with Rudy. That is just so wild to me. That an all NBA center can actually successfully play SF for competitive minutes, and for an actual positive net rating.

Naz wasn't really a center and Towns was never a traditional center either. You play the position that you can guard. It's like Holmgren and Wemby. In Naz's case, since he can't really guard any position, so you can say he play any position equally well except pg :D


I keep seeing this but I still don't believe it. I believe it has everything to do with physical ability, skillset and the need to rebound the ball, so a tall center will always be around. Then a strong quicker PF who can prevent a drive or pick the pockets of the C will be valued yadda yadda yadda. Naz just happens to have great footwork and speed with the ball to keep up with certain SF. Jaden has the same but is too weak to stop a C or box them out.
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Post#1104 » by winforlose » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:09 pm

Naz is a mixed bag defensively. He lacks the foot speed to stay in front of some quicker opponents. But, he has good technique when playing with verticality (going straight up,) and he is getting better at blocking shots without fouling. Naz is a natural PF with a PF skill set, but the physical strength and will to defend centers. Naz and KAT have very similar games and Naz’s ceiling might not be as high as Karl’s, but I am beginning to think Naz might have a similar floor, (which when you are talking about an All Star/All NBA PF/C like KAT, ain’t bad.)
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Post#1105 » by minimus » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:26 pm

winforlose wrote:Naz is a mixed bag defensively. He lacks the foot speed to stay in front of some quicker opponents. But, he has good technique when playing with verticality (going straight up,) and he is getting better at blocking shots without fouling.


I actually think that he opposite of your vision. I think can stay in front of some PF such as Giannis, but he is a bad at positioning defense and rotations. I agree that he was fouling machine in the past, and slowly improving in this area.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1106 » by TimberKat » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:12 pm

winforlose wrote:Naz is a mixed bag defensively. He lacks the foot speed to stay in front of some quicker opponents. But, he has good technique when playing with verticality (going straight up,) and he is getting better at blocking shots without fouling. Naz is a natural PF with a PF skill set, but the physical strength and will to defend centers. Naz and KAT have very similar games and Naz’s ceiling might not be as high as Karl’s, but I am beginning to think Naz might have a similar floor, (which when you are talking about an All Star/All NBA PF/C like KAT, ain’t bad.)

It actually is amazing how close their games are once Naz can hit the 3s consistently. They both also have the similar defensive problems. I am wondering is it our player development staff that is the issue. Towns have a higher ceiling and is a better passer. Since, we have a duplicate, one of them may be the best trade chip.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1107 » by winforlose » Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:15 pm

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winforlose wrote:Naz is a mixed bag defensively. He lacks the foot speed to stay in front of some quicker opponents. But, he has good technique when playing with verticality (going straight up,) and he is getting better at blocking shots without fouling. Naz is a natural PF with a PF skill set, but the physical strength and will to defend centers. Naz and KAT have very similar games and Naz’s ceiling might not be as high as Karl’s, but I am beginning to think Naz might have a similar floor, (which when you are talking about an All Star/All NBA PF/C like KAT, ain’t bad.)

It actually is amazing how close their games are once Naz can hit the 3s consistently. They both also have the similar defensive problems. I am wondering is it our player development staff that is the issue. Towns have a higher ceiling and is a better passer. Since, we have a duplicate, one of them may be the best trade chip.


KAT is the one of the two likely to be traded. His value is higher, he is more expensive, older, and has much more name recognition around the league (FOs want splashy trades to be for big names to drive ticket sales.) Naz is a great fit for the Ant timeline and still not in his prime. We have seen tangible improvements year after year for Naz. I still think Naz is on his way up, while Karl is probably now in his prime and showing you the benefits of it.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1108 » by life_saver » Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:42 pm

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1109 » by Calinks » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:41 pm

One thing I noticed KAT has eliminated from his game this year, that kickout jumper. I don't know if he has been called for it once time this season and it was a big problem the last few years.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1110 » by winforlose » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:43 pm

Calinks wrote:One thing I noticed KAT has eliminated from his game this year, that kickout jumper. I don't know if he has been called for it once time this season and it was a big problem the last few years.


I have seen it a few times. But you are correct, he has made a ton of progress in cleaning it up and dumping it out of his game.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1111 » by winforlose » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:20 pm

“Christopher Hine: Anthony Edwards: “I don’t know why teams put two on me because KAT is the best offensive player we got. If you put two on me, KAT going to have a field night. I’m all for it.” 9 hours ago – via Twitter ChristopherHine
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Post#1112 » by shrink » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:31 pm

The Minnesota Timberwolves—now leading the West at 37-16—have soaring expectations and a soaring payroll that will almost certainly have to be reduced soon to avoid a massive luxury-tax bill under the new CBA. The most likely solution? A trade of Karl-Anthony Towns. “I think it happens this summer,” said one Western Conference exec.

“How much tax are they going to pay when [Anthony Edwards’s] extension kicks in and KAT’s extension jumps?” said an Eastern Conference exec.


https://www.theringer.com/2024/2/14/24072038/nba-trade-rumors-offseason-lebron-james-trae-young

As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, I don’t think this is what will happen. Yes, the Wolves will be expensive, but the standard Knicks-writer answer for years is always “MIN is a farm team and will send us their stars.” I jotted down the following message to a national friend who wanted my opinion on the article.

Target Center is the second oldest arena in the NBA (behind MSG), and doesn’t have the profit centers of new arenas. It is very likely the ARod and Marc Lore will use the Timberwolves success to try to get some public funding for a new arena.

Minneapolis is not like Oklahoma City, and stadium deals get voted down here often. The Thunder are a part of OKC’s identity. The Twin Cities DMA is 3-4 times the size of OKC. They have all four major pro sports, soccer, and all the college sports of a Big Ten university right downtown. Aside from the Vikings, sports fans tend to follow whoever is successful. It is so hard to get public funding that the City of Saint Paul had to spearhead XCel center to bring hockey back to Minnesota - Minneapolis wouldn’t pay anything for it. Right now, after a long time in the wilderness, the Wolves have the public eye, and might be able to get that arena.

If ARod and Lore want public funding, they need to ask immediately. They can’t have the public see their first move as the main owners to be making the team worse to save themselves luxury taxes. If they need liquidity, they won’t cut taxes - they will horcrux up a small stake in the team, as they have done already with Eric Schmidt, the former google exec. The Wolves franchise value is ballooning even faster than the NBA average - they had the second biggest increase (behind OKC) over the last year, according to Forbes.

Marc Lore wants to build his own city. It seems out of character that he wouldn’t want to build a new arena, and that probably means Towns stays.
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Post#1113 » by Klomp » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:47 pm

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Post#1114 » by Klomp » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:24 pm

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Post#1115 » by KGdaBom » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:08 am

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I'm sure he will be ripped on for calling himself a legend. :banghead:
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Post#1116 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:26 am

KGdaBom wrote:
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I'm sure he will be ripped on for calling himself a legend. :banghead:


Is this still in doubt? The number of Wolves records KAT has broken, the years of loyal service. How many players have stayed through two contracts and signed a supermax third with us? He played through the rebuild years, the Jimmy year, back to trash year, and now the playoff years. He may not be an NBA legend yet, but he is a Timberwolves legend.
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Post#1117 » by KGdaBom » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:39 am

winforlose wrote:
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I'm sure he will be ripped on for calling himself a legend. :banghead:


Is this still in doubt? The number of Wolves records KAT has broken, the years of loyal service. How many players have stayed through two contracts and signed a supermax third with us? He played through the rebuild years, the Jimmy year, back to trash year, and now the playoff years. He may not be an NBA legend yet, but he is a Timberwolves legend.

I bet if I looked I could find people laying into him for calling himself a legend. Saying win a playoff series first. Stuff like that.
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Post#1118 » by winforlose » Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:58 am

KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:I'm sure he will be ripped on for calling himself a legend. :banghead:


Is this still in doubt? The number of Wolves records KAT has broken, the years of loyal service. How many players have stayed through two contracts and signed a supermax third with us? He played through the rebuild years, the Jimmy year, back to trash year, and now the playoff years. He may not be an NBA legend yet, but he is a Timberwolves legend.

I bet if I looked I could find people laying into him for calling himself a legend. Saying win a playoff series first. Stuff like that.


KG is a wolves legend and he only won 2 with us.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1119 » by KGdaBom » Mon Feb 19, 2024 3:59 am

winforlose wrote:
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Is this still in doubt? The number of Wolves records KAT has broken, the years of loyal service. How many players have stayed through two contracts and signed a supermax third with us? He played through the rebuild years, the Jimmy year, back to trash year, and now the playoff years. He may not be an NBA legend yet, but he is a Timberwolves legend.

I bet if I looked I could find people laying into him for calling himself a legend. Saying win a playoff series first. Stuff like that.


KG is a wolves legend and he only won 2 with us.

Yep, but KG was popular. KAT is a whipping boy.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1120 » by BlacJacMac » Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:16 am

winforlose wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Is this still in doubt? The number of Wolves records KAT has broken, the years of loyal service. How many players have stayed through two contracts and signed a supermax third with us? He played through the rebuild years, the Jimmy year, back to trash year, and now the playoff years. He may not be an NBA legend yet, but he is a Timberwolves legend.

I bet if I looked I could find people laying into him for calling himself a legend. Saying win a playoff series first. Stuff like that.


KG is a wolves legend and he only won 2 with us.


Literally the only 2 we’ve ever won.

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