Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham - 2024 NBA Draft

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This is actually not that hard to imagine. You simply have to do the thought experiment swapping Rob onto that OSU team or Trae onto this Kentucky team. Their stat lines would look completely different. And we've literally seen time and time again now the effect Calipari has inhibiting his guards. I would never have imagined Quickley was a high usage scorer.

Yeah making the jump to a Quickley level player is nowhere near the realm of being a Trae Young type of player.

And Quickley wasn't anywhere close to Dillingham if you look at each player's freshman season and look at BPM, 3 FG%, 3PA/100 possessions, assist %, Points Per 40 Mins, etc.

[JMAC3]

This is actually not that hard to imagine. You simply have to do the thought experiment swapping Rob onto that OSU team or Trae onto this Kentucky team. Their stat lines would look completely different. And we've literally seen time and time again now the effect Calipari has inhibiting his guards. I would never have imagined Quickley was a high usage scorer.

Yeah making the jump to a Quickley level player is nowhere near the realm of being a Trae Young type of player.

And Quickley wasn't anywhere close to Dillingham if you look at each player's freshman season and look at BPM, 3 FG%, 3PA/100 possessions, assist %, Points Per 40 Mins, etc.

Where do I mail the check to say that I bet Dillingham will be a lot closer to Quickley then Trae Young in the NBA? I might send it blank.

[EvanZ]

Yeah making the jump to a Quickley level player is nowhere near the realm of being a Trae Young type of player.

And Quickley wasn't anywhere close to Dillingham if you look at each player's freshman season and look at BPM, 3 FG%, 3PA/100 possessions, assist %, Points Per 40 Mins, etc.

Where do I mail the check to say that I bet Dillingham will be a lot closer to Quickley then Trae Young in the NBA? I might send it blank.

Mail it to Scoot

[JMAC3]

And Quickley wasn't anywhere close to Dillingham if you look at each player's freshman season and look at BPM, 3 FG%, 3PA/100 possessions, assist %, Points Per 40 Mins, etc.

Where do I mail the check to say that I bet Dillingham will be a lot closer to Quickley then Trae Young in the NBA? I might send it blank.

Mail it to Scoot

The only reason to bring up Scoot here is because once again, we are trying to compare a guard to a generational talent to probably be let down again. Not every single prospect is a 10x allstar, but apparently if you say otherwise it's absurd.

[Hal14]

Where do I mail the check to say that I bet Dillingham will be a lot closer to Quickley then Trae Young in the NBA? I might send it blank.

Mail it to Scoot

The only reason to bring up Scoot here is because once again, we are trying to compare a guard to a generational talent to probably be let down again. Not every single prospect is a 10x allstar, but apparently if you say otherwise it's absurd.

I don't see anyone claiming Dill will be a 10x all-star. Trae is only a 3x all-star, with 1 of those all-star selections being an injury replacement.

I also just said a better comp for Rob is Garland, who is only a 1x all-star.

Sure, Dill could end up being closer to Quickley than he is to Trae. But Trae would go no. 1 in the 2024 draft *easily*. And Quickley would go like 8th in a 2020 re-draft. Considering how bad the 2024 draft is, I don't think top 5 is that crazy for Dill..especially since Dill posted better freshman season numbers than Quickley across the board..

Regardless of whether he ends up being closer to Steph, Trae, Lamelo, Quickley, Maxey, Kyrie, Dame, Kemba, Garland, Bones Hyland, Lou Williams or Terry Rozier, the bottom line is this archetype hits way more often than it misses..and most of these guys would go top 5 in the weak 2024 draft class.

[EvanZ]

Scoot was a “generational talent” according to apparently one poster on this forum. And yet that’s the straw man that keeps on giving these people life.

[JMAC3]

Scoot was a “generational talent” according to apparently one poster on this forum. And yet that’s the straw man that keeps on giving these people life.

If you want, I will DM you every single post that someone called him Generational over the last year, but you have to agree to give me $3 per post I send you. According to you, it should cost you zero dollars to very little. I will exclude Clyde posts so don't use that as your excuse. We have a deal?

[EvanZ]

Scoot was a “generational talent” according to apparently one poster on this forum. And yet that’s the straw man that keeps on giving these people life.

If you want, I will DM you every single post that someone called him Generational over the last year, but you have to agree to give me $3 per post I send you. According to you, it should cost you zero dollars to very little. I will exclude Clyde posts so don't use that as your excuse. We have a deal?

I've asked before. Why haven't you just done this already? I was told it was just Clyde.

[JMAC3]

Scoot was a “generational talent” according to apparently one poster on this forum. And yet that’s the straw man that keeps on giving these people life.

If you want, I will DM you every single post that someone called him Generational over the last year, but you have to agree to give me $3 per post I send you. According to you, it should cost you zero dollars to very little. I will exclude Clyde posts so don't use that as your excuse. We have a deal?

I've asked before. Why haven't you just done this already? I was told it was just Clyde.

Do we have a deal? or nah

[EvanZ]

If you want, I will DM you every single post that someone called him Generational over the last year, but you have to agree to give me $3 per post I send you. According to you, it should cost you zero dollars to very little. I will exclude Clyde posts so don't use that as your excuse. We have a deal?

I've asked before. Why haven't you just done this already? I was told it was just Clyde.

Do we have a deal? or nah

No we don't have a deal. But I will go look for those posts and see for myself. If they are out there, it still doesn't give you an excuse for the lap taking. That is just moronic behavior on your part.

[JMAC3]

I've asked before. Why haven't you just done this already? I was told it was just Clyde.

Do we have a deal? or nah

No we don't have a deal. But I will go look for those posts and see for myself. If they are out there, it still doesn't give you an excuse for the lap taking. That is just moronic behavior on your part.

Got it, seems like you have a low confidence on something you keep mentioning on and on for the last few weeks.

[EvanZ]

Do we have a deal? or nah

No we don't have a deal. But I will go look for those posts and see for myself. If they are out there, it still doesn't give you an excuse for the lap taking. That is just moronic behavior on your part.

Got it, seems like you have a low confidence on something you keep mentioning on and on for the last few weeks.

You're a bad actor. I don't make deals with bad actors.

[EmpireFalls]

In all seriousness can someone explain:

What does Reed Sheppard do that’s so much better than Tyler Kolek or Payton Pritchard’s draft profiles

[MemphisX]

In all seriousness can someone explain:

What does Reed Sheppard do that’s so much better than Tyler Kolek or Payton Pritchard’s draft profiles

Is this a serious question? Reed Sheppard is better almost across the board in every significant way as a Freshman than both are/were as seniors.

[The-Power]

In all seriousness can someone explain:

What does Reed Sheppard do that’s so much better than Tyler Kolek or Payton Pritchard’s draft profiles

All three are white players who play the Guard position, so obviously they have the same profiles.

[The-Power]

All legit NBA point guards are essentially defensive 0's.

There are levels to this just like there are on offense. Not every below average defender is the same.

[JMAC3]

Not saying it will be impossible to build a good defense around either of these players, but just know you are digging yourself a hole the moment you draft them and you now pigeon holed into what type of players you need around them to make the defense functional. Especially Dillingham.

[Saints14]

With all this talk of the Spurs trading for Trae Young and how Wemby can cover his defensive deficiencies, seems like it would make a lot of sense for them to grab one of these guys in the mid-lotto with that Hawks pick

[JMAC3]

Kentucky just isn't a very good team. The fact they have 6+ future pros and have the 200th best defense in college basketball is pathetic.

Dillingham did his thing last night, but Kentucky still can't stop anyone.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Kentucky just isn't a very good team. The fact they have 6+ future pros and have the 200th best defense in college basketball is pathetic.

Dillingham did his thing last night, but Kentucky still can't stop anyone.

Bradshaw and Ivisic are not really locks to make the NBA at all, lol.