Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Horst to Detroit rumor

[Ron Swanson]

Maybe it didn't have to be Grant Williams, but it does feel like we should have just found any trade for Pat/Bobby that yielded a rotation level 3&D perimeter guy at this point. I'm not feeling any of this defeatist junk, but the postseason concerns about pretty much every guy outside of the starting-5 are probably valid. Going from Payne/Rolo to Bev/Gallo is still a solid bench upgrade, but I certainly didn't anticipate Pat and Bobby looking this useless just 4-months ago. That changes things a bit.

[SirChurros]

Do you ever wish we would have gotten Collin Sexton and kept Jrue? No? I do.

[PG Graveyard]

Do you ever wish we would have gotten Collin Sexton and kept Jrue? No? I do.

That was always my hope. Really would have liked to have seen Jrue next to another ball handler/scorer. Our team would have been so much better off in both the short and the long term rather than going all in for the overrated chucker. Of course Giannis is at fault here too since I’m assuming all his bull preseason was pushing us into making the Dame move. At least it got Giannis extended. Now he needs to be ok with a soft rebuild and maybe a step back. Although I think dumping Dame for the right pieces makes us immediately better

[Ron Swanson]

Lol no. You guys who wish-casted giving up a 2029 unprotected 1st for Collin Sexton or Terry Rozier aren't all of a sudden "right" in hindsight. That will forever live in the RealGM trade proposal Hall-of-Shame alongside "Tyler Herro and Bam is a good trade package for Giannis" and "Khris for Spencer Dinwiddie and Tim Hardaway Jr."

[Shaffty]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

[German Athens]

Maybe it didn't have to be Grant Williams, but it does feel like we should have just found any trade for Pat/Bobby that yielded a rotation level 3&D perimeter guy at this point. I'm not feeling any of this defeatist junk, but the postseason concerns about pretty much every guy outside of the starting-5 are probably valid. Going from Payne/Rolo to Bev/Gallo is still a solid bench upgrade, but I certainly didn't anticipate Pat and Bobby looking this useless just 4-months ago. That changes things a bit.

Yeah, this was the primary reason for my disappointment at the deadline, and admittedly, a lot of it is just a grass is greener mentality from me, but I would have felt better if we made just about any change. At least there’d be hope for a time that the player/players on ththe bench could be playoff difference makers.*

Real talk, I think it’s feasible that we’d be better off giving all of Bobby’s minutes to gallo, and we got him in a buyout.

*Pat has been a good playoff performer in the past, but I think his defense has likely declined to the point where he won’t be able to stay above the waterline anymore

[M-C-G]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

I've only caught parts of games since Doc took over. My observation is that there is significantly more defensive effort and offensively if we tweak some things, this team could gel and go on a long ass winning streak. I don't think we are all that far off from getting back to elite or at least there is a path there.

[SirChurros]

Lol no. You guys who wish-casted giving up a 2029 unprotected 1st for Collin Sexton or Terry Rozier aren't all of a sudden "right" in hindsight. That will forever live in the RealGM trade proposal Hall-of-Shame alongside "Tyler Herro and Bam is a good trade package for Giannis" and "Khris for Spencer Dinwiddie and Tim Hardaway Jr."

Sure, sure. Cool story.

[PG Graveyard]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

Is that a lot? What are we comparing it to?

[PG Graveyard]

Lol no. You guys who wish-casted giving up a 2029 unprotected 1st for Collin Sexton or Terry Rozier aren't all of a sudden "right" in hindsight. That will forever live in the RealGM trade proposal Hall-of-Shame alongside "Tyler Herro and Bam is a good trade package for Giannis" and "Khris for Spencer Dinwiddie and Tim Hardaway Jr."

Rumor was Ainge was kicking the tires on Dame this offseason. Maybe we will get another bite at the apple this offseason. Although I can’t imagine Ainge is dumb enough to take on Dame and his albatross contract

[emunney]

Lol no. You guys who wish-casted giving up a 2029 unprotected 1st for Collin Sexton or Terry Rozier aren't all of a sudden "right" in hindsight. That will forever live in the RealGM trade proposal Hall-of-Shame alongside "Tyler Herro and Bam is a good trade package for Giannis" and "Khris for Spencer Dinwiddie and Tim Hardaway Jr."

Rumor was Ainge was kicking the tires on Dame this offseason. Maybe we will get another bite at the apple this offseason. Although I can’t imagine Ainge is dumb enough to take on Dame and his albatross contract

Well he voluntarily moved to Utah.

[Shaffty]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

Is that a lot? What are we comparing it to?

Its the 5th most Open/Wide open 3s in the league, and the 24th best shooting percentage on them

[chonestown]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

Is that a lot? What are we comparing it to?

Its the 5th most Open/Wide open 3s in the league, and the 24th best shooting percentage on them

Mind you, our starting backcourt is competing in the 3-point contest.

[Daver]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

Is that a lot? What are we comparing it to?

Its the 5th most Open/Wide open 3s in the league, and the 24th best shooting percentage on them

How absolutely brutal that shooting% is they shoot top 10 to 15 they have 3 less losses thsn they have now maybe now

[Daver]

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[Shaffty]

Is that a lot? What are we comparing it to?

Its the 5th most Open/Wide open 3s in the league, and the 24th best shooting percentage on them

Mind you, our starting backcourt is competing in the 3-point contest.

between this and Dame shooting 28% since January 1st. We are in just a brutal shooting slump

[M-C-G]

Its the 5th most Open/Wide open 3s in the league, and the 24th best shooting percentage on them

Mind you, our starting backcourt is competing in the 3-point contest.

between this and Dame shooting 28% since January 1st. We are in just a brutal shooting slump

I didn't look up Beasley's numbers, but I am noticing that he is taking much more difficult shots than he was earlier in the year. I felt like he was mainly catch and shoot but now seems to be adding way more take a dribble, side step type shots. Not sure if it is because he is being focused on by the defense but its hard to sustain when you have Brook and Dame taking 4 point shots from super deep and now Beasley trying to do more.

The benefit is that things have really opened up for Giannis with the spacing, or so it would seem.

[BUCKnation]

That 3 pt shooting number seems right. Dame is killing that number quite a bit, but none of the other wings or guards are consistently hitting anything. It's super feast or famine. Like last night, I don't think we hit a 3 in the 2nd half until Beas hit those 2 at the end. That's frankly pathetic considering they were doubling or tripling giannis on every trip.

[humanrefutation]

Bucks are generating 34.6 Open or Wide Open 3s since doc took over according to nba.com player tracking.

They are shooting 32% on those 3s.

I've only caught parts of games since Doc took over. My observation is that there is significantly more defensive effort and offensively if we tweak some things, this team could gel and go on a long ass winning streak. I don't think we are all that far off from getting back to elite or at least there is a path there.

The defense definitely looks better, though they're prone to brain farts too often for such a veteran team. It is obvious that on certain possessions, players are just not on the same page in that regard. There were a couple possessions in crunch time last night where it was obvious that Dame had no idea where he needed to be.

But that's part of the problem with bringing in a new coaching staff and implementing a system on the fly.

The offense has looked worse in my view, but I largely put that on Dame's shoulders, as he's been atrocious since the year started.

[JayMKE]

Considering the Lakers are interested in Trae Young or Kyrie Irving then they probably would be interested in Dame too