Is Mac McClung an NBA talent?

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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#41 » by JayMKE » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:17 pm

So if he’s good enough why isn’t he on a roster, I don’t get the conspiracy
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#42 » by pr0wler » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:25 pm

JayMKE wrote:So if he’s good enough why isn’t he on a roster, I don’t get the conspiracy


There isn't necessarily a finite definition of whether someone is good enough to be in the NBA. A team can have poor scouting and data analysis, and potentially erroneously choose a washed up vet as their 12th man.

Sure, that guy has a spot in the league. But that doesn't mean that he is objectively a better choice than another player.

With so many options available at the fringes, teams can definitely make a mistake in choosing one player over another.
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#43 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:49 pm

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ChiTownHero1992 wrote:Not even close, he's hung around numerous rosters and showed absolutely nothing in terms of NBA level talent and abilities. G-League, yes but NBA hell no


Hes shown his ability in the NBA what do u mean?

Please explain.


The guy was given chances by LAL 2x, Chicago, Golden State, Phili 2x and now Orlando and has constantly showed he can't make it at the NBA level, he is a G-League level player at best. He is no way can crack a top 13 rotation, maybe sit on the bench as a 14-15th man but at that point just play games in the G-League.

Yes he can score and that is about it...he can't play defense to save his life and not the greatest with the ball (lots of turnovers), no height to be a 2 and gets torched by speedy 1's. He is a novelty player not an NBA level guy.

When he was on the Bulls the guy couldn't find minutes above Devon Dotson, Malcolm Hill, Matt Thomas, and Alfonso McKinnie all of whom he was "torching" in the G-League but the NBA is a different animal.
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Post#44 » by Godymas » Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:57 pm

hell i'd rather see him in the place of Jordan Poole rn
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Post#45 » by mccluskey » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:00 pm

Phish Tank wrote:Problem is that his defense sucks. That would have to mean his offense is otherworldly to even warrant minutes. The g-league cooks up stats, especially for the AAAA type, therefore it’s hard to even say if he’s otherworldly on offense.

It seems like he is more of a high volume scorer, which makes sense down there. However, his lack of defensive ability and true lack of size as a PG would necessitate Mac to actually be an astute passer (hasn’t shown that) or a sharpshooter (also hasn’t shown that)


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McClung's TS% is 63.2 and he shoots 50% from the field and 42% from 3 over three G League seasons - he's a smart, efficient scorer and very consistent game to game. And he has a career 6.4 ast - 2.5 TO ratio, he's a willing playmaker with good vision. He's consistently been one of the best guards in the G League the last two years, no one down there can stay in front of him defensively.

nobody watches the G League so I think many people just go with evaluations from his college days, but he's put in a ton of work to address his weaknesses offensively as a shooter and lead guard from when he came out in the draft and is a much better and more complete player from then to now.

defensively he still has problems due to his size and short arms that won't ever go away, and I think that's what's holding him back from getting a real look. He gives good effort on that end and has gotten to be at least decent defending in straight up man to man situations on the perimeter, but if he gets switched onto a big in the paint then he's probably giving up a bucket.

all in all though, he's definitely good enough at this point where he could help a team as a scoring combo guard off the bench. I think his struggles to stick on a roster are just part of how incredibly hard it is to make the league as a smaller guy these days, though, his physical profile is just way out of favor with GMs even with the elite athleticism.
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Post#46 » by Handlez » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:06 pm

Without a single doubt.
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Post#47 » by Lockdown504090 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:26 pm

if his arms were just a little longer, id say definite yes. He could play on the raptors though!
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Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#48 » by sikma42 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:35 pm

Doesn’t contribute to winning basketball and has zero upside. Peoples judgment clouded by his skin color.




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Post#49 » by VFX » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:38 pm

sikma42 wrote:Doesn’t contribute to winning basketball and has zero upside. Peoples judgment crowded by his skin color.


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:lol:

And there is is.
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Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#50 » by sikma42 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:43 pm

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sikma42 wrote:Doesn’t contribute to winning basketball and has zero upside. Peoples judgment crowded by his skin color.


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:lol:

And there is is.

It’s true (also add in that he is American). It’s obvious why he isn’t on an NBA roster. I’ve been a big fan of players from everywhere, but he doesn’t really project to helping an NBA team. May make sense to keep him on a 15th spot for fans and to get some dunks in blowouts tho.

But as far as positively effecting NBA games or projecting to somehow doing that…it’s not there.

There are tons of bad NBA players and some guys in the league that shouldn’t be. But at some point, someone could make an argument about why there spot made sense. This isn’t really possible for him, unless he can bring in ad dollars as kind of a sideshow.




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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#51 » by JDR720 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:46 pm

sikma42 wrote:Doesn’t contribute to winning basketball and has zero upside. Peoples judgment clouded by his skin color.

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Um, if anything him being a short white guy hurts his prospects of making the league. Plenty of players in the league with his profile (not including skin color) already.
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Post#52 » by sikma42 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:53 pm

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sikma42 wrote:Doesn’t contribute to winning basketball and has zero upside. Peoples judgment clouded by his skin color.

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Um, if anything him being a short white guy hurts his prospects of making the league. Plenty of players in the league with his profile (not including skin color) already.

See the post above. At some point, someone could make an argument for those players. There are a lot of players worldwide who can be 15th best players in the league. Bad players aren’t in the league bc they are better than every other player in the world, it’s an aggregation of circumstance that makes sense at the time. You wouldnt just sign someone with no upside to be a negative player.


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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#53 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:16 pm

You can't judge a player if he has only given a chance to play 4 games and in different teams. I mean, 1 game with Bulls, 1 game with Lakers, 2 games with Sixers, what do people expect exactly? if you want to give a player a chance, you do it the proper way, you sign the player to a 1 year contract, or at least to a minimum of 20 games or so, a player cannot play freely or the right way if he knows he may be out in 1 or 2 games, he will have the pressure to perform and be worried about any mistake he does.
If teams don't want to give him an opportunity that's fine, but never half ass it, playing only 1 or 2 games with a team is absolute BS.
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#54 » by Joshyjess » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:32 pm

If a guy who is a huge crowd favorite has been given multiple chances by various teams, and can't show enough to get a spot, then there is obviously a reason why he isn't on a team. It's easy for us as fans to think we know better than GM's / coaches / scouts as to who the best players are, but in reality these teams know so much better than we do if a player deserves a spot or not. If this guy were good enough to be on a team, then he'd 100% be on a team. His upside as a fan favorite would make that an extremely easy choice for any team. The fact that he can't get a spot on a team should be enough to tell you (no matter how big a homer you might be) that No, he apparently isn't good enough to get a spot on a team.
I think another good example of this is Tacko Fall. When he played in Boston, he was probably one of the biggest fan favorites on the whole team. People were screaming his name to play. Like McClung, he had a unique ability (In his case his enormous height) that separated him from almost every other player.) However, no matter how much fun he was to watch, Boston had to let him go, because in spite of his uniqueness, he just wasn't good enough to merit a spot on the team. He was then traded a couple of times, and again couldn't find a spot on a team. Teams know better than we do who deserves a spot or not.
If McClung can't get a spot on a team, then there is a reason for that, regardless of whatever fans might think about it.
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#55 » by fateis007 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:04 pm

honestly no idea.

I am a Magic fan and we are in desperate need of a consistent shooting/playmaking guard and he cant be any worse then Cole anthony has been the last 2 months.

Infact, the both are about the same size and Cole literally is targeted on defense.

But Cole cant run an offense or pass, he is just a scorer and not a good one lately.

Id 100% try Mac over him right now, and yet here we are.
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#56 » by kg01 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:52 pm

Mr Peanut wrote:
SlovenianDragon wrote:This poll shows the problem with society imo...The majority of people are brain dead and cant think for themselves.


I get that you're a fan of the guy, but you can't really say this just because people disagree with you.


Funny enough, he may have stumbled on the actual problem with society. The whole 'everybody that disagrees with me are bad!!' thing. :roll:
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Post#57 » by PlatinumState » Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:19 pm

They say he's 6'2" but always looked about 5'9" on the court to me
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Post#58 » by cgf » Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:46 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:You can't judge a player if he has only given a chance to play 4 games and in different teams. I mean, 1 game with Bulls, 1 game with Lakers, 2 games with Sixers, what do people expect exactly? if you want to give a player a chance, you do it the proper way, you sign the player to a 1 year contract, or at least to a minimum of 20 games or so, a player cannot play freely or the right way if he knows he may be out in 1 or 2 games, he will have the pressure to perform and be worried about any mistake he does.
If teams don't want to give him an opportunity that's fine, but never half ass it, playing only 1 or 2 games with a team is absolute BS.


While it’s true that a player is more likely to make it under a coaching staff that believes in them than one more focused on developing other players. It’s also true that coaches see a lot more of these guys than we do.

So organization after organization deciding that a player isn’t worth focusing on developing, isn’t a good sign.
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#59 » by Ayt » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:34 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:You can't judge a player if he has only given a chance to play 4 games and in different teams. I mean, 1 game with Bulls, 1 game with Lakers, 2 games with Sixers, what do people expect exactly? if you want to give a player a chance, you do it the proper way, you sign the player to a 1 year contract, or at least to a minimum of 20 games or so, a player cannot play freely or the right way if he knows he may be out in 1 or 2 games, he will have the pressure to perform and be worried about any mistake he does.
If teams don't want to give him an opportunity that's fine, but never half ass it, playing only 1 or 2 games with a team is absolute BS.


What a bizarre opinion. Teams are trying to win games and you think they should just gift a G-League caliber guy minutes? He's so mentally fragile he can't handle the pressure when he actually has played? There are plenty of guys in the NBA right now in that exact same position. Do they all need to be gifted minutes, or just this guy?

Kenny Lofton Jr. is on your 76ers. Why are they **** him over by not giving him minutes? He's played only 2 games! We need a thread about him!
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Re: Is Mac McClung an NBA talent? 

Post#60 » by Bloodbather » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:44 pm

He's probably good enough to be on a roster somewhere. There are players in the league who bring less to the table than he does. Is he really worse than a Theo Maledon, Malaki Branham, Kira Lewis, or R.J. Hampton? I think one of the tanking teams could take a chance on him.

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