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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:It’s quite miserable that Boston is just on a whole other planet than every other teams in the nba. KP fixing his anemia made this possible. Which makes it hurt even more.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Wildcat wrote:
I don't think spacing at the 5 is that important if your 1, 2, and 3 are high 3 point shooters. I-Hart at the top of the key doing what he's been doing should be enough to bring the D's 5 out. Else, if they stay camping, they're getting 3 second calls all day long. The other thing is I-Hart can drive to the basket, and he does have a post move or 2.
But this is all moot. Let's worry about today's game and not about Victor in a couple of years.
Don't forget IHart's ability to make reads as well. That's a highly undervalued skill for a big to have.
You're right though. It's still 2024. Victor isn't the roadblock, it's the Celtics.
And the Celtics have exactly the type of C that poses a problem. He can defend our guys and since they're near the rim his rim protection is amplified and then he pulls them away from the rim when he's on offense.
We are 0-4 vs them and have lost by an average of 11ppg, which is ugly.
TheGreenArrow wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Don't forget IHart's ability to make reads as well. That's a highly undervalued skill for a big to have.
You're right though. It's still 2024. Victor isn't the roadblock, it's the Celtics.
And the Celtics have exactly the type of C that poses a problem. He can defend our guys and since they're near the rim his rim protection is amplified and then he pulls them away from the rim when he's on offense.
We are 0-4 vs them and have lost by an average of 11ppg, which is ugly.
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sol537 wrote:Some of ya’ll didn’t want Lowry on the buyout market but he’s ballin’
MrDollarBills wrote:Reign23 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Chet chose to attempt a pull up in Wemby's face. As if his opponent was a normal human being an not a generational freak like he is
jesus
Right. Chet probably rarely gets blocked on those pull ups and Wemby just sent him packing.
Just seeing two 7+ foot guys like this go at it is insane. If I'm Chet, I'm in the gym and weight room all summer. It's gonna take hard work to keep up with a freak like Wemby
Wildcat wrote:ScienceOfLosing wrote:Wildcat wrote:
Yes, I do think Randle's injury had nothing to do with being tired. Are we really looking 35.4 MPG and saying to ourselves, "He's being overplayed?" That's garage. And the funny thing about that is his minutes were actually down since the OG trade. That lead was down to 6 around the 10 minutes mark. He got injured when they were up 17 a bit before the 4+ minute mark. How often have we seen in the league where being up 17 points means nothing? 3 back to back 3's and we're all screaming to get Randle back in. If that was a clean foul and Randle hits his FT's, I have no doubt in my mind the benches would have been cleared out by the 3 minute mark. Randle's injury is just flat out bad luck.
Same with Robinson. You can't tell me 29 MPG is considered overplaying. More bad luck. Sharing minutes with I-Hart is damn near moot as much as we want it. No team will ever have players do an even split on those minutes, especially 2 big men like Robinson and I-Hart. I-Hart injury is perhaps the only thing we can look at Thibs on, but then again, he's your starting C playing starter minutes of 30 MPG. I can't imagine he's so poorly conditioned that the extra 10 MPG was going to break him. The frontline got screwed. It's how the NBA goes, man.
How many times have we seen Deuce in come to give JB a breather and the other team goes on a quick run? Often. I like Deuce, but he's not a PG. That's the short and skinny of it. Bro, RJ is playing more minutes with the Raptors then he did with the Knicks. Again, 30 MPG is a lot from your starter? This is insane talk. In fact he logged his 1st 40 played minutes this season a couple of weeks ago. Go ask Rose if he blames Thibs for his ACL injury for Game 1 of the 1st Round on a non-contact drive to the basket? How's Jimmy doing? And KAT, and Conley? Noah and Gibson?
What people by large seem to not understand is that the modern NBA team do not even have on court practices the way they use to and most of the time it's film studies and other things that typically dwarf on court activities (shoot arounds do not count as practice). Until everyone's healthy, this team's starters are going to play heavier minutes. That's the reality of the situation.
So, you are essentially saying that our entire starting lineup being out more than all the other teams is just a coincidence and has nothing to do with Thibs?
When you need 4 paragraphs to defend a clear observation, I’d say your reaching.
Just hoping we are ready for the playoffs, if not, then for the draft.
Mate, you made specific points and I'm responding to them. I'm not just going to pick and choose.
It's not a clear observation. A narrative wormed into some folk's head and you're presenting it as an abnormality compared to the rest of the league when the data shows that's simply not the case.
Let's look at January for example. Top 20 in total minutes played have 0 Knick players. T-Wolves have 3 on that list. Bulls and Bucks have 2 on that list. The numbers in February are obviously screwed up because guys are just dropping for one reason or another, but it has nothing to do with being overplayed in the 1st 40 or so games.
Players get injured. Some of those injuries just happens to be fluke. He can certainly go easier on I-Hart, but there's no alternative right now. In a few weeks, these MPG will stabilize. Hell, Josh can take a game or 2 off if he needs it.
robillionaire wrote:Guano wrote:Glad we can all agree that trying to take a charge is lame as hell.
It is but at the same time it’s the way the current rules of the game encourage you to play so I can’t really fault them for taking advantage of that
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Reign23 wrote:how Quentin Grimes went from "untouchable" in the Mitchell trade to being a very bad 9th man on the worst team in the league is just flat out sensational.
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
Reign23 wrote:how Quentin Grimes went from "untouchable" in the Mitchell trade to being a very bad 9th man on the worst team in the league is just flat out sensational.
spree2kawhi wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:Reign23 wrote:jesus
Right. Chet probably rarely gets blocked on those pull ups and Wemby just sent him packing.
Just seeing two 7+ foot guys like this go at it is insane. If I'm Chet, I'm in the gym and weight room all summer. It's gonna take hard work to keep up with a freak like Wemby
I have a gut feeling they’ll play together before it’s all said and done.
that would be overkill.
MrDollarBills wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:HEZI wrote:
I think they need to change how they call it based on if the defender is in a defensive stance or not. Nobody plays defense holding their nuts, that’s not a natural defensive stance and you aren’t defending anything but your own package so if you slide in the paint holding your nuts then you aren’t in a defensive stance and it will be a blocking call. A lot of guys will hesitate sliding in knowing they can’t really protect themselves anymore and will be forced to either make a play on the ball or get out the way
Okay so you want more poorly defended shots? The rules are entirely jacked up for the offense. Guys are pushing off. Traveling. Moving screen on every screen. The charge is like the ONLY thing these guys have.
Push offs, forearm shoves, moving screens and traveling should be taken out of the game too.
That doesn't mean that undercutting players about to elevate should be in the game either. All of this stuff needs to go.
Reign23 wrote:how Quentin Grimes went from "untouchable" in the Mitchell trade to being a very bad 9th man on the worst team in the league is just flat out sensational.
TheGreenArrow wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Don't forget IHart's ability to make reads as well. That's a highly undervalued skill for a big to have.
You're right though. It's still 2024. Victor isn't the roadblock, it's the Celtics.
And the Celtics have exactly the type of C that poses a problem. He can defend our guys and since they're near the rim his rim protection is amplified and then he pulls them away from the rim when he's on offense.
We are 0-4 vs them and have lost by an average of 11ppg, which is ugly.
Hey man can we have that talk now????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HaliFRAUD Folkssssssssssssss HALIFRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
