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Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0

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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 

Post#1441 » by cedric76 » Thu Mar 7, 2024 6:38 am

Monk really fit the bill

Jett too :-)
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Post#1442 » by RookieStar » Thu Mar 7, 2024 10:51 am

cedric76 wrote:Monk really fit the bill

Jett too :-)


I think the guy who just had 8-12 in 3pts made against the reigning champs is th best fit :wink:
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 

Post#1443 » by basketballRob » Thu Mar 7, 2024 11:39 am

Bruce Brown has struggled with the Raptors, and I assume they'll opt out of his contract. If he would accept a MLE-type deal, I'd sign him.

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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 

Post#1444 » by Knightro » Thu Mar 7, 2024 12:37 pm

Dump Fultz, Harris, Ingles, Okeke.

Replace the four listed above with better veterans.

Profit.
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Post#1445 » by Skybox » Thu Mar 7, 2024 1:06 pm

Knightro wrote:Dump Fultz, Harris, Ingles, Okeke.

Replace the four listed above with better veterans.

Profit.


Replace 3 of them with one solid contributor...fill-in with Queen, Kevon, etc (tighten rotation-good teams have massive salary and talent imbalance after top 7 or 8...we're headed there I think)
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Post#1446 » by eyriq » Thu Mar 7, 2024 1:47 pm

I have three objectives:

Improve availability:
Keep one max of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, or JI

Move off re-tool era role players:
Keep one max of Fultz, JI, Okeke, Cole

Improve shooting:
Upgrade Fultz & Cole with better shooters

So the plan is to trade WCJ & Cole and drop Fultz, Harris, and Okeke
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Post#1447 » by p0peye » Thu Mar 7, 2024 2:04 pm

eyriq wrote:I have three objectives:

Improve availability:
Keep one max of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, or JI

Move off re-tool era role players:
Keep one max of Fultz, JI, Okeke, Cole

Improve shooting:
Upgrade Fultz & Cole with better shooters

So the plan is to trade WCJ & Cole and drop Fultz, Harris, and Okeke


I read this as keep Fultz, retool around Fultz and then upgrade Fultz. Money.
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Post#1448 » by SOUL » Thu Mar 7, 2024 2:27 pm

Keep JI (as long as he stays healthy), keep Gary if he re-signs for less than his current contract, but maybe not)

Let Fultz go, let Ingles go, let Okeke go, let Goga go (he will sign elsewhere, UFA)

Keep Cole and WCJ are cheap and good contracts - trade only if we can get a huge upgrade somewhere (with picks or Jett for someone really good)

Black/Cole
Suggs/(FA)/Jett
Franz/(FA)/Houstan/
Paolo/Isaac/(FA)
WCJ/Moe/(FA)

or if we want to get spicy

Suggs/Cole
(FA) or trade/Harris/Jett
Franz/Black(SF-PG role)/Houstan
Paolo/WCJ/(FA)
Isaac/Moe/(FA)

With WCJ/Cole/Jett being potential trade pieces if draft picks aren't enough.
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Post#1449 » by eyriq » Thu Mar 7, 2024 3:32 pm

p0peye wrote:
eyriq wrote:I have three objectives:

Improve availability:
Keep one max of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, or JI

Move off re-tool era role players:
Keep one max of Fultz, JI, Okeke, Cole

Improve shooting:
Upgrade Fultz & Cole with better shooters

So the plan is to trade WCJ & Cole and drop Fultz, Harris, and Okeke


I read this as keep Fultz, retool around Fultz and then upgrade Fultz. Money.
Hmmm true, I need to factor in Fultz shooting threes and being the upgrade
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Post#1450 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Mar 7, 2024 3:34 pm

eyriq wrote:I have three objectives:

Improve availability:
Keep one max of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, or JI

Move off re-tool era role players:
Keep one max of Fultz, JI, Okeke, Cole

Improve shooting:
Upgrade Fultz & Cole with better shooters

So the plan is to trade WCJ & Cole and drop Fultz, Harris, and Okeke


Improve availability : keep the guy with the highest win shares....JI

re-tool era role players : again, keep JI

Improve shooting : His name is Anthony Black.

I haven't given up on Cole and WCJ, but it literally cannot be understated how not having WCJ exposed his mediocrity until it didn't again.

Cole seems to be attempting to get out of a many month funk. Which I think has hurt our interpretation of his value.

WCJ also has great value, its his availability that is the primary concern. If you have to pick JI or WCJ though for example. You pick JI 100% of the time. I do not think this is controversial. Especially if what we got from JI is the new normal. Which is better then non existent JI.
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Post#1451 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Mar 7, 2024 3:54 pm

Also, I am going to say it.

We are flying under the radar against a lot of teams.
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Post#1452 » by CocoaFan » Thu Mar 7, 2024 4:16 pm

basketballRob wrote:
mattdelray1220 wrote:
OrlChamps2030 wrote:
Who do you like to replace Harris?

I predict Monk will be a hot name around here this offseason


Monk will demand a ton of money and will prob look to be a starter... I do think we can start him and Suggs. His assists have skyrocketed this year. Besides Monk and maybe Grayson Allen and Klay I am not sure there is an upgrade over Gary Harris. I would not be shocked if they brought Gary back on a 1+1 deal around what he makes now.
I think we should bring back Gary and replace Fultz and his $17m slot with a good shooter. We could replace Queen and Kevon with our 1st and 2nd picks. We could either keep Chuma or replace him with another mid-level type vet on a 1 and 1 contract.

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I think we should go for an upgrade. Harris has only played over 60 games in 3 of 11 seasons and he won't do it this year earlier. I think there's a lot better options out there like Monk or Grayson Allen or even possibly Klay on a 1 + 1 contract.
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Re: Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 3.0 

Post#1453 » by CocoaFan » Thu Mar 7, 2024 4:28 pm

eyriq wrote:I have three objectives:

Improve availability:
Keep one max of Fultz, Harris, WCJ, or JI

Move off re-tool era role players:
Keep one max of Fultz, JI, Okeke, Cole

Improve shooting:
Upgrade Fultz & Cole with better shooters

So the plan is to trade WCJ & Cole and drop Fultz, Harris, and Okeke
I like it. I think they'll give WCJ and Cole 1 more year to show improved consistency/durability which I agree with. You probably need to add Ingles to the drop list too.
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Post#1454 » by eyriq » Thu Mar 7, 2024 10:07 pm

This makes me think Klay has to be our top option.

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Post#1455 » by Skybox » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:52 am

eyriq wrote:This makes me think Klay has to be our top option.

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Most contested attempts? I know it means "worthy of being covered closely"...but I'd like to see makes too
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Post#1456 » by eyriq » Fri Mar 8, 2024 1:59 am

Skybox wrote:
eyriq wrote:This makes me think Klay has to be our top option.

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Most contested attempts? I know it means "worthy of being covered closely"...but I'd like to see makes too
That's his eFG% relative to the difficulty of the shots he takes. He's still an elite shooter
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Post#1457 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 2:29 am

Also... to all the Monk supporters here, just wanna say that after Grayson had that 8-12 3pt mqde last game, he is now 5-6 in 3pt IN THE 1ST QUARTER alone.

Wr need to sign this man.
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Post#1458 » by RichCollab » Fri Mar 8, 2024 3:28 am

RookieStar wrote:Also... to all the Monk supporters here, just wanna say that after Grayson had that 8-12 3pt mqde last game, he is now 5-6 in 3pt IN THE 1ST QUARTER alone.

Wr need to sign this man.


We need Monk’s athleticism.
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Post#1459 » by RookieStar » Fri Mar 8, 2024 3:43 am

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RookieStar wrote:Also... to all the Monk supporters here, just wanna say that after Grayson had that 8-12 3pt mqde last game, he is now 5-6 in 3pt IN THE 1ST QUARTER alone.

Wr need to sign this man.


We need Monk’s athleticism.


You do know Grayson is pretty athletic right? It looks deceptive but he moves fast and can get up there as well.

Not that we really need him to catch oops cuzbwe just want him to bombs away.
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Post#1460 » by tiderulz » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:33 am

RookieStar wrote:Also... to all the Monk supporters here, just wanna say that after Grayson had that 8-12 3pt mqde last game, he is now 5-6 in 3pt IN THE 1ST QUARTER alone.

Wr need to sign this man.

my question for Grayson would be, how is he at creating his own shot? Monk is decent at that

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