2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I think this is the best I can come up with for now. Lots more information to absorb. Do I believe Collier is an NBA player? How can he not be with his talent, but there are 29 NBA teams that field NBA players and many who happen to be perennial all-stars and they don't win crap. The problem is that I try to base my boards on potential usefulness for actually winning meaningful games. I can see Collier being a Derozan type of talent who will by necessity be high USG yet the shaky shooting, bad decision making, disinterest in applying himself routinely on D and displays of poor body language will be a hindrance to him being a championship caliber player. The type of guy who you'd love as a 6th man and grow to hate as a starter but who forces his way into being a starter on a bad team. That's the vibe from him.

1. Nikola Topic
2. Ron Holland
3. Alexandre Sarr
4. Reed Sheppard
5. Stephon Castle
6. Matas Buzelis
7. Yves Missi
8. Ryan Dunn
9. Kyle Filipowski
10. Rob Dillingham
11. Zaccharie Risacher
12. Donovan Clingan
13. Jared McCain
14. Ja'Kobe Walter

Have seen Collier once, looks to have good upside, turnovers may be overstated depending on role at next level, can definitely score in traffic. Need to see more to have a better opinion.

He has all-star upside. I still don't want him starting on my team if I'm serious about winning a championship. It would be different if he were more of an off-ball slasher with better D but he is a high USG true PG with too many question marks in my mind to become an efficiency stud. He could go to a few all-star games and hard cap your team with 2nd round playoff exits. He could be useful in the earlier stages of his career as a 6th man.

[LoveMyRaps]

I'm excited with what Masai does with the 31st overall pick.

RJ + IQ + MYSTERY PLAYER for OG

What a win.

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

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Will Toronto strike gold again and select a New Mexico Lobo? I honestly tend to discount the Mountain West conference, but JT Toppin is elite in his conference being likely the best athlete and possible MW DPOY. His team is on the bubble to make the tournament, so we could see more, but his numbers demand attention. The 6'9 freshman is averaging:

12.6 PPG
8.8 REB
35% from three (10-29)
3 Stocks

5.4 OBPM
2.7 DBPM
97th percentile in transition

He really reminds me of Siakam in a lot of ways. Being the energy big who runs the floor, and is a special defender who could guard 1-5. Siakam came out as a Sophomore, by comparison:

20.3 PPG
11.6 REB
2.6 Stocks

5.2 OBPM
3.1 DBPM

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Let's not forget discount Scottie Barnes as well.

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

He's Max Strus with length.

[stanch sabonis]

I think this is the best I can come up with for now. Lots more information to absorb. Do I believe Collier is an NBA player? How can he not be with his talent, but there are 29 NBA teams that field NBA players and many who happen to be perennial all-stars and they don't win crap. The problem is that I try to base my boards on potential usefulness for actually winning meaningful games. I can see Collier being a Derozan type of talent who will by necessity be high USG yet the shaky shooting, bad decision making, disinterest in applying himself routinely on D and displays of poor body language will be a hindrance to him being a championship caliber player. The type of guy who you'd love as a 6th man and grow to hate as a starter but who forces his way into being a starter on a bad team. That's the vibe from him.

1. Nikola Topic
2. Ron Holland
3. Alexandre Sarr
4. Reed Sheppard
5. Stephon Castle
6. Matas Buzelis
7. Yves Missi
8. Ryan Dunn
9. Kyle Filipowski
10. Rob Dillingham
11. Zaccharie Risacher
12. Donovan Clingan
13. Jared McCain
14. Ja'Kobe Walter

Why are you down on Risacher? He’s a projected top pick and fits perfectly with Scottie.

[ArthurVandelay]

I didn’t see anyone post this….

2024 NBA draft notebook: 15 burning conference tournament questions

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/39709948/2024-nba-draft-15-conference-tournament-questions

[Dalek]

Will Toronto strike gold again and select a New Mexico Lobo? I honestly tend to discount the Mountain West conference, but JT Toppin is elite in his conference being likely the best athlete and possible MW DPOY. His team is on the bubble to make the tournament, so we could see more, but his numbers demand attention. The 6'9 freshman is averaging:

12.6 PPG
8.8 REB
35% from three (10-29)
3 Stocks

5.4 OBPM
2.7 DBPM
97th percentile in transition

He really reminds me of Siakam in a lot of ways. Being the energy big who runs the floor, and is a special defender who could guard 1-5. Siakam came out as a Sophomore, by comparison:

20.3 PPG
11.6 REB
2.6 Stocks

5.2 OBPM
3.1 DBPM

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Let's not forget discount Scottie Barnes as well.

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Baba Miller is all limbs - man that guy's arms are incredible. I am not sure I buy his stock, lots of fouls in 25 mins, but he is a guy someone might look at as a Bruno type project.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I think this is the best I can come up with for now. Lots more information to absorb. Do I believe Collier is an NBA player? How can he not be with his talent, but there are 29 NBA teams that field NBA players and many who happen to be perennial all-stars and they don't win crap. The problem is that I try to base my boards on potential usefulness for actually winning meaningful games. I can see Collier being a Derozan type of talent who will by necessity be high USG yet the shaky shooting, bad decision making, disinterest in applying himself routinely on D and displays of poor body language will be a hindrance to him being a championship caliber player. The type of guy who you'd love as a 6th man and grow to hate as a starter but who forces his way into being a starter on a bad team. That's the vibe from him.

1. Nikola Topic
2. Ron Holland
3. Alexandre Sarr
4. Reed Sheppard
5. Stephon Castle
6. Matas Buzelis
7. Yves Missi
8. Ryan Dunn
9. Kyle Filipowski
10. Rob Dillingham
11. Zaccharie Risacher
12. Donovan Clingan
13. Jared McCain
14. Ja'Kobe Walter

Why are you down on Risacher? He’s a projected top pick and fits perfectly with Scottie.

I'm not really down on him I'm just higher regarding the potential of others. He's been about a 71% free throw shooter over the past 3 years with no improvement, there's no guarantee his 3 point shooting is sustainable yet assuming it is I don't see anything more than shooter/role player with the potential for good but not great outlier stats. I don't see any special intangible traits either. If you draft that at the top of the draft that's a trainwreck scenario for your franchise. I'd rather take a shot on someone with greater potential at 6 than someone who feels destined to be an above average starter.

[Dalek]

I think this is the best I can come up with for now. Lots more information to absorb. Do I believe Collier is an NBA player? How can he not be with his talent, but there are 29 NBA teams that field NBA players and many who happen to be perennial all-stars and they don't win crap. The problem is that I try to base my boards on potential usefulness for actually winning meaningful games. I can see Collier being a Derozan type of talent who will by necessity be high USG yet the shaky shooting, bad decision making, disinterest in applying himself routinely on D and displays of poor body language will be a hindrance to him being a championship caliber player. The type of guy who you'd love as a 6th man and grow to hate as a starter but who forces his way into being a starter on a bad team. That's the vibe from him.

1. Nikola Topic
2. Ron Holland
3. Alexandre Sarr
4. Reed Sheppard
5. Stephon Castle
6. Matas Buzelis
7. Yves Missi
8. Ryan Dunn
9. Kyle Filipowski
10. Rob Dillingham
11. Zaccharie Risacher
12. Donovan Clingan
13. Jared McCain
14. Ja'Kobe Walter

Why are you down on Risacher? He’s a projected top pick and fits perfectly with Scottie.

Risacher has to be higher. He is like a taller Devin Vassell. He should be ahead of Buzelis and Dunn given the shooting ability and size - 18YO and 6'8 and shooting 38% from three in a pro league. Can't ask for much more than that.

As far as fit with Scottie, I'd say yes and pretty much any team would need/want him.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I think this is the best I can come up with for now. Lots more information to absorb. Do I believe Collier is an NBA player? How can he not be with his talent, but there are 29 NBA teams that field NBA players and many who happen to be perennial all-stars and they don't win crap. The problem is that I try to base my boards on potential usefulness for actually winning meaningful games. I can see Collier being a Derozan type of talent who will by necessity be high USG yet the shaky shooting, bad decision making, disinterest in applying himself routinely on D and displays of poor body language will be a hindrance to him being a championship caliber player. The type of guy who you'd love as a 6th man and grow to hate as a starter but who forces his way into being a starter on a bad team. That's the vibe from him.

1. Nikola Topic
2. Ron Holland
3. Alexandre Sarr
4. Reed Sheppard
5. Stephon Castle
6. Matas Buzelis
7. Yves Missi
8. Ryan Dunn
9. Kyle Filipowski
10. Rob Dillingham
11. Zaccharie Risacher
12. Donovan Clingan
13. Jared McCain
14. Ja'Kobe Walter

Why are you down on Risacher? He’s a projected top pick and fits perfectly with Scottie.

Risacher has to be higher. He is like a taller Devin Vassell. He should be ahead of Buzelis and Dunn given the shooting ability and size - 18YO and 6'8 and shooting 38% from three in a pro league. Can't ask for much more than that.

As far as fit with Scottie, I'd say yes and pretty much any team would need/want him.

Every team would want Danny Green in his prime too but I'm not drafting Danny at the top of a draft

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

He might be my fav player in this draft. Right now he's #1 on my Raptor list for the Pacers pick.

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

He might be my fav player in this draft. Right now he's #1 on my Raptor list for the Pacers pick.

He seems like Austin Reaves meets Brent Barry without the FT shooting.

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

He might be my fav player in this draft. Right now he's #1 on my Raptor list for the Pacers pick.

He could be the Jaime Jaquez of this draft.

[Dalek]

At first I was thinking. Yay another 3pt specialist, but he's got length and finishing ability

He might be my fav player in this draft. Right now he's #1 on my Raptor list for the Pacers pick.

He could be the Jaime Jaquez of this draft.

Maybe on offense, but Jaime Jaquez was a really special defender at UCLA. I don't think Knecht is a defender. He is more of a Doug McDermott type which is still really good but I don't think he has two-way potential.

[Dalek]

I was watching a lot of Bobi Klintman lately and I really like his game for Darko ball. He is 6'10 and has projectible three point shooting, he can make plays on ball and is actually also really good as a cutter. He has defensive skill, but he needs to lock in at times, but overall I think the kid is a plus at his size and is a good athlete. Playing in the NBL he really showed well. I think he made huge gains from his time at Wake Forest.

Hoop Intellect has a great video breakdown and see Klintman as a Otto Porter Jr. type which is exactly the type of forward we need.

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Raps even had a good look at him last fall where he had 9/7 and 2 steals:

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Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

What separates him from Joe Weiskamp?