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Post#641 » by Thaddy » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:21 am

Dalek wrote:I was watching a lot of Bobi Klintman lately and I really like his game for Darko ball. He is 6'10 and has projectible three point shooting, he can make plays on ball and is actually also really good as a cutter. He has defensive skill, but he needs to lock in at times, but overall I think the kid is a plus at his size and is a good athlete. Playing in the NBL he really showed well. I think he made huge gains from his time at Wake Forest.

Hoop Intellect has a great video breakdown and see Klintman as a Otto Porter Jr. type which is exactly the type of forward we need.

;ab_channel=HoopIntellect

Raps even had a good look at him last fall where he had 9/7 and 2 steals:

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If I had to choose who we pick at 31 it will probably be this guy if he's there. He looks like a typical Masai player. But it does seem that we have pivoted from the 6'9 dream.
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Post#642 » by Dalek » Wed Mar 13, 2024 6:22 am

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Dalek wrote:I was watching a lot of Bobi Klintman lately and I really like his game for Darko ball. He is 6'10 and has projectible three point shooting, he can make plays on ball and is actually also really good as a cutter. He has defensive skill, but he needs to lock in at times, but overall I think the kid is a plus at his size and is a good athlete. Playing in the NBL he really showed well. I think he made huge gains from his time at Wake Forest.

Hoop Intellect has a great video breakdown and see Klintman as a Otto Porter Jr. type which is exactly the type of forward we need.

;ab_channel=HoopIntellect

Raps even had a good look at him last fall where he had 9/7 and 2 steals:

Read on Twitter

If I had to choose who we pick at 31 it will probably be this guy if he's there. He looks like a typical Masai player. But it does seem that we have pivoted from the 6'9 dream.


In think he is the ideal for the system. We are after multi-faceted basketball players who can dribble-pass-shoot and from a defensive POV this guy will help the defense just based on his size and hands. He is a late bloomer and could end up like Franz Wagner.

Another reason to consider him, he played at Sunrise Christian Academy at the same time as Gradey Dick. Kind of a perfect pair to develop.

I think if Indy starts winning and the pick is close to 20 he makes a lot of sense.
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Post#643 » by DreamTeam09 » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:05 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:;ab_channel=Swish

Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

What separates him from Joe Weiskamp?


Physical size, physicality in general
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Post#644 » by Thaddy » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:53 pm

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LoveMyRaps wrote:;ab_channel=Swish

Not sure where Dalton is slotted on mock drafts but if he's there at #31, take him!

What separates him from Joe Weiskamp?


Physical size, physicality in general

They are both 6'6 and about 205lbs
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Post#645 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:09 pm

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DreamTeam09 wrote:
Thaddy wrote:What separates him from Joe Weiskamp?


Physical size, physicality in general

They are both 6'6 and about 205lbs

One is white, and one is clear.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#646 » by niQ » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:30 pm

Dalek wrote:I was watching a lot of Bobi Klintman lately and I really like his game for Darko ball. He is 6'10 and has projectible three point shooting, he can make plays on ball and is actually also really good as a cutter. He has defensive skill, but he needs to lock in at times, but overall I think the kid is a plus at his size and is a good athlete. Playing in the NBL he really showed well. I think he made huge gains from his time at Wake Forest.

Hoop Intellect has a great video breakdown and see Klintman as a Otto Porter Jr. type which is exactly the type of forward we need.

;ab_channel=HoopIntellect

Raps even had a good look at him last fall where he had 9/7 and 2 steals:

Read on Twitter


The Swede Freak.

Maybe it's from that video, or his hair, or height, something about those highlights reminds me of Leonard Miller, but more fluid.
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Post#647 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:13 pm

Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol
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Post#648 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:26 pm

Psubs wrote:Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol

The funny part about this draft, is that if this was the 90's a guy like Zach Edey would have went first overall. Easily. Now, people discount guys like that massively.

Sure, you have to play at a certain pace with him and he doesn't shoot threes. I don't think it matters if he stays healthy. He's the best big in the draft.
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Post#649 » by Dalek » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:09 pm

Psubs wrote:Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol


To me, Klintman is just a good player that fits our system well and will retain value overall because of the size and shooting. I think he is a floor stretcher and that will allow Scottie to operate. I am not sure if he could play small ball 5 but as a 3/4 he makes sense.

What I found sort of interesting about Sarr and Klintman is their final NBL numbers:

Klintman
9.7 /4.8 /0.5 blocks 36% from three (30 made threes)

Sarr
9.4 / 4.3 / 1.5 blocks 28% from three (16 made threes)

Obviously Sarr is more impactful defensively, but Klintman had a pretty underrated season at Cairns.
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Post#650 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:53 pm

Klintman scoring at a 43% rate from the field is very concerning for a 21 year old 6'10 225 lb player, add to that his atrocious AST:TO ratio and 4.5 fouls per 36, yuck.

I compared his BCS to Davis Bertans last year and now it's looking like he'll have an even tougher time ever getting close to that.
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Post#651 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:16 pm

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Psubs wrote:Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol

The funny part about this draft, is that if this was the 90's a guy like Zach Edey would have went first overall. Easily. Now, people discount guys like that massively.

Sure, you have to play at a certain pace with him and he doesn't shoot threes. I don't think it matters if he stays healthy. He's the best big in the draft.


Edey is essentially going to be like having a younger Poeltl. It's okay with Zubac on the Clippers as they have Kawhi, PG and Harden.

I'm leaning on Ivisic to be able to get ahead of the curve to deal with Chet and Wemby. 1.3 blks to 1.5 fouls is good and so is the 83.3% FT% and despite missing his last 6 treys he's still shooting 37.5% from deep.
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Post#652 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:22 pm

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Klintman scoring at a 43% rate from the field is very concerning for a 21 year old 6'10 225 lb player, add to that his atrocious AST:TO ratio and 4.5 fouls per 36, yuck.

I compared his BCS to Davis Bertans last year and now it's looking like he'll have an even tougher time ever getting close to that.


Klintman seems like Ousmane Dieng, who also played in the NBL.
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Post#653 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:29 pm

Psubs wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
Psubs wrote:Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol

The funny part about this draft, is that if this was the 90's a guy like Zach Edey would have went first overall. Easily. Now, people discount guys like that massively.

Sure, you have to play at a certain pace with him and he doesn't shoot threes. I don't think it matters if he stays healthy. He's the best big in the draft.


Edey is essentially going to be like having a younger Poeltl. It's okay with Zubac on the Clippers as they have Kawhi, PG and Harden.

I'm leaning on Ivisic to be able to get ahead of the curve to deal with Chet and Wemby. 1.3 blks to 1.5 fouls is good and so is the 83.3% FT% and despite missing his last 6 treys he's still shooting 37.5% from deep.


Poeltl and Edey seem like polar opposites other than being rim protectors. One is huge with slow feet, the other has a mediocre wingspan, but has amazingly quick feet. One is a post scorer and the other more of a playmaker and Edey can hit free throws.
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Post#654 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:29 pm

Dalek wrote:
Psubs wrote:Does Klintman have a path to start in 3-4 years? I would like to take a big with the Pacers pick, as there are a lot of good ones in Tyler Smith, Ivisic and Ware. Masai and Bobby have to decide which is the best to eventually take over Poeltl/Olynyk?

Bigs are better taken out of the lottery unless a clear top 1 pick. Who knows Sarr may be like a Wiseman drafted #2. lol


To me, Klintman is just a good player that fits our system well and will retain value overall because of the size and shooting. I think he is a floor stretcher and that will allow Scottie to operate. I am not sure if he could play small ball 5 but as a 3/4 he makes sense.

What I found sort of interesting about Sarr and Klintman is their final NBL numbers:

Klintman
9.7 /4.8 /0.5 blocks 36% from three (30 made threes)

Sarr
9.4 / 4.3 / 1.5 blocks 28% from three (16 made threes)

Obviously Sarr is more impactful defensively, but Klintman had a pretty underrated season at Cairns.


I just don't see Klintman being better than Jontay Porter, who is an excellent passer already and looks like a better shooter with extended playing time.

Would definitely draft Tyler Smith over Klintman. I think Smith could be what everyone imagined Thon Maker being. Milwaukee drafted Maker at #10 but they won a championship so can't regret the miss. :lol:
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Post#655 » by Yallbecrazy » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:30 pm

I don't see us taking a pure center with both Poeltl and Olynyk under contract. I could see a PF/C, but they have to be able to pass.
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Post#656 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:33 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:The funny part about this draft, is that if this was the 90's a guy like Zach Edey would have went first overall. Easily. Now, people discount guys like that massively.

Sure, you have to play at a certain pace with him and he doesn't shoot threes. I don't think it matters if he stays healthy. He's the best big in the draft.


Edey is essentially going to be like having a younger Poeltl. It's okay with Zubac on the Clippers as they have Kawhi, PG and Harden.

I'm leaning on Ivisic to be able to get ahead of the curve to deal with Chet and Wemby. 1.3 blks to 1.5 fouls is good and so is the 83.3% FT% and despite missing his last 6 treys he's still shooting 37.5% from deep.


Poeltl and Edey seem like polar opposites other than being rim protectors. One is huge with slow feet, the other has a mediocre wingspan, but has amazingly quick feet. One is a post scorer and the other more of a playmaker and Edey can hit free throws.


I'm talking more of level of play, with higher floor but low ceiling. Poeltl is a post scorer but we converted him based on the style of play. Edey can hit FT's but would like the C to be more agile as a lob-threat and 3-pt shooting. :nod:
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Post#657 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:34 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:I don't see us taking a pure center with both Poeltl and Olynyk under contract. I could see a PF/C, but they have to be able to pass.


Agreed, that's why Ivisic should be the target. He hits 3's, is a lob threat, can pass, can hit FT's, can block shots at 7'2 and has a great demeanor on the court like Scottie.

Tyler Smith is more of the PF that is 6'11 and should be able to play smallball C. Might be a taller, poor man's Chris Bosh.
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Post#658 » by aminiaturebuddha » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:37 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:I don't see us taking a pure center with both Poeltl and Olynyk under contract. I could see a PF/C, but they have to be able to pass.


If there's someone that they really like, I don't think having Poeltl and Olynyk will really factor into their decision much at all.

Olynyk's is only a two year deal, so if a rookie proves that he's ready for an expanded role after his 1st season, they'd be able to trade Olynyk during the next year as an expiring. And then at that point, there'd only be a player option for Poeltl the following year. That's all very manageable.
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Post#659 » by manjusaka » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:44 pm

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Yallbecrazy wrote:I don't see us taking a pure center with both Poeltl and Olynyk under contract. I could see a PF/C, but they have to be able to pass.


If there's someone that they really like, I don't think having Poeltl and Olynyk will really factor into their decision much at all.

Olynyk's is only a two year deal, so if a rookie proves that he's ready for an expanded role after his 1st season, they'd be able to trade Olynyk during the next year as an expiring. And then at that point, there'd only be a player option for Poeltl the following year. That's all very manageable.


We need size.

Filipowski, Clingan, Ware, Missi, Edey, Chomche, Ivisic… Center position has a good depth this year.
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Post#660 » by Dalek » Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:49 pm

Psubs wrote:I just don't see Klintman being better than Jontay Porter, who is an excellent passer already and looks like a better shooter with extended playing time.

Would definitely draft Tyler Smith over Klintman. I think Smith could be what everyone imagined Thon Maker being. Milwaukee drafted Maker at #10 but they won a championship so can't regret the miss. :lol:


I really like Tyler Smith, but I am not sure he will be available at the Indy pick and I probably wouldn't want to take him with a lotto pick. Klintman is going to be in a cluster of stretch bigs in this class:

Kyle Filipowski 7'0 (C)
Kel'el Ware 7'0 (PF/C)
Tyler Smith 6'11 (SF/PF)
Bobi Klintman 6'10 (SF/PF)
DaRon Holmes II 6'10 (PF)
PJ Hall 6'10 (PF)

I do think Klintman has some positional flexibility like Smith, so he could play beside Porter. I don't really see too much overlap - if anything we encourage having guys who can cut, pass and shoot. I think Bobi has some on ball creation skill that can be developed but he does need to clean up the turnovers. The way I see the bench, is we need a wing/forward and Klintman can plug into any lineup:

Scottie/JFL/free agent
Dick
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Klintman
Olynyk/Porter

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