ImageImageImageImageImage

2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2

Moderators: HiJiNX, 7 Footer, DG88, niQ, Duffman100, tsherkin, Reeko, Morris_Shatford, lebron stopper

DreamTeam09
RealGM
Posts: 17,678
And1: 11,042
Joined: Jan 06, 2009
Location: Scarborough
 

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1101 » by DreamTeam09 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:27 am

I just got hipped to S.Castle, he looks amazing. Has a little SGA in his game. Where is he mocked ?
Image

In Raptor Ball I Trust
ArthurVandelay
Head Coach
Posts: 6,571
And1: 6,306
Joined: Feb 10, 2023
 

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1102 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:43 am

Gueye!
User avatar
BoyzNTheHood
Head Coach
Posts: 7,220
And1: 6,813
Joined: Apr 19, 2015

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1103 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 24, 2024 12:45 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:I just got hipped to S.Castle, he looks amazing. Has a little SGA in his game. Where is he mocked ?

Tankathon has him 10th. The kid is a dawg by definition
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
REJECTEDBYCLARK
Head Coach
Posts: 6,514
And1: 4,665
Joined: Jan 25, 2023

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1104 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:05 am

Lol the vols are 8-31 from the field and 0-11 from downtown to start against Texas, how the hell is this team supposed to win the title. Houston and Iowa state have the same problem, their offenses stall like crazy at times.
User avatar
Syd-TK3
RealGM
Posts: 19,944
And1: 20,245
Joined: Jun 07, 2015
 

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1105 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:13 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Gradey Dick would easily be a top 5 pick in this years draft.

Gradey > Reed

Reed ended the season horribly but college gradey is not a better prospect then him imo


Gradey's size and athleticism favors him.

Reed might struggle against the physicality in the NBA. Could see him being Pritchard 2.0

I think that's the only real advantage he has tho Reed has shown alot more as a creator
Image
Yallbecrazy
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,907
And1: 5,581
Joined: Nov 25, 2013

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1106 » by Yallbecrazy » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:39 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Lol the vols are 8-31 from the field and 0-11 from downtown to start against Texas, how the hell is this team supposed to win the title. Houston and Iowa state have the same problem, their offenses stall like crazy at times.


Maybe because if they shot the ball even at an average clip for them they would have beaten a top 25 team by 30+.
User avatar
ItsDanger
RealGM
Posts: 28,844
And1: 26,051
Joined: Nov 01, 2008

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1107 » by ItsDanger » Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:56 am

Terrence Shannon with 30 pts, 8/8 from FT line, an older prospect but can defend the perimeter. Was overlooked last year, same excuses.
Organization can be defined as an organized body of people with a particular purpose. Not random.
Mark_83
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,855
And1: 3,889
Joined: Jun 26, 2008

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1108 » by Mark_83 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:35 am

ItsDanger wrote:Terrence Shannon with 30 pts, 8/8 from FT line, an older prospect but can defend the perimeter. Was overlooked last year, same excuses.

He might get overlooked again this year but this time for other reasons. :lol:
REJECTEDBYCLARK
Head Coach
Posts: 6,514
And1: 4,665
Joined: Jan 25, 2023

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1109 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:36 am

Creighton blowing wide open layups and missing tons of open shots all game, absolutely brutal showing

Scheierman pulled a Charles Oakley
REJECTEDBYCLARK
Head Coach
Posts: 6,514
And1: 4,665
Joined: Jan 25, 2023

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1110 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:54 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Lol the vols are 8-31 from the field and 0-11 from downtown to start against Texas, how the hell is this team supposed to win the title. Houston and Iowa state have the same problem, their offenses stall like crazy at times.


Maybe because if they shot the ball even at an average clip for them they would have beaten a top 25 team by 30+.


Do you really trust them against a team like UConn that protects the ball and can lock them down on D?
aminiaturebuddha
Head Coach
Posts: 6,890
And1: 7,498
Joined: Aug 07, 2006

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1111 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:54 am

Should be some interesting matchups in the Sweet 16 based on today's games. I'll be particularly interested in Tennessee vs Creighton. I've been wondering for a while if Knecht is really that much better of a prospect or player than Scheierman, and now we'll get to see them head-to-head.
Ell Curry
Head Coach
Posts: 7,473
And1: 2,082
Joined: Oct 27, 2001
Location: Newfoundland

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1112 » by Ell Curry » Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:57 am

So the issue with Edey on defence seems to be that Painter thinks he is too slow (or his 3 guards too small and not defensive rebounding enough) to play anything but drop coverage. So he's giving up a pull-up jumper in the P+R whenever a decent pick is set. Right now that's a lot of long 2s and the math is okay, but in the NBA, that's a lot of Dame Lillard or even our own Quickley pull-up 3s at a decent rate. So any team that takes Edey cannot have guards that can't fight through picks, and probably needs good size at the 3/4 to be able to cover ground. Barnes is well-suited to it, Barrett less so, and I honestly haven't locked in during games to examine how Quickley deals with good screens.

I have no worries about his offence. He's massive, fundamentally sound, improves every year and takes no bad shots.
Where's the D?
User avatar
XTC
General Manager
Posts: 8,698
And1: 8,776
Joined: Nov 09, 2005
 

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1113 » by XTC » Sun Mar 24, 2024 6:38 am

Here's my problem with Edey. It takes him far too long to gather and make a move. His offense doesn't translate for me at the NBA level. He's not a good passer, his drop coverage is non existent, and his touch around the basket doesn't seem like it's anything special.

I honestly dont take him with any of our picks other than #31
User avatar
Thaddy
Head Coach
Posts: 7,165
And1: 4,196
Joined: Dec 12, 2022

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1114 » by Thaddy » Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:18 am

XTC wrote:Here's my problem with Edey. It takes him far too long to gather and make a move. His offense doesn't translate for me at the NBA level. He's not a good passer, his drop coverage is non existent, and his touch around the basket doesn't seem like it's anything special.

I honestly dont take him with any of our picks other than #31

Edey at 31 would be terrible. There are a lot of rotation level specialist we could add. I would rather find a guy with one transferrable skill. That could be Ryan Dunn (overall defense), Hall (rebounding), or a shooting specialist.
Landomar
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,480
And1: 560
Joined: Jun 15, 2004
Contact:

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1115 » by Landomar » Sun Mar 24, 2024 1:26 pm

What role is Zach Edey going to have in the NBA? Whenever I think about this, my mind always goes to Valanciunas. Isn't Edey just a bigger, slower, version of what JV was early in his career?

JV strengths
- rebounding
- setting screens
- scoring around the basket
- free throw shooting

JV weaknesses
- perimeter defense (or in general, guarding anyone in space)
- running up and down the court (remember the year when JV was bulking?)
- shooting jump shots (he didn't shoot 3s at all until his 6th season)
- passing

Edey has a little bit better shot blocking from his length, and his free throw shooting is a bit worse. Other than that, to me, he's like an extreme version of JV. His strengths are stronger, and his weaknesses are weaker.

So, the question is do you want a good scorer / rebounder as your center who is bad at passing, doesn't shoot threes, and needs to play drop coverage?

I think team fit is going to be very important for Edey. There are going to be teams that take advantage of his strengths, and can cover for his weaknesses. The Raptors would have to make some big adjustments to be one of those teams, we can't just plug and play him into what we're doing currently. On offense, Darko likes to use his centers as a playmaking hub. His ideal center would be a Jokic or a Sabonis, and guys like Poeltl, Olynyk, and J.Porter all have enough passing to play this role. With Edey, you do not want him operating at the top of the key with the ball in his hands. Edey is either posting up and looking for and entry pass, establishing offensive rebounding position, or setting screens in a pick and roll action. On the defensive side of the ball, the Raptors like to switch a lot, and have their centers out guarding the perimeter all the time. One of the reasons they drafted Poeltl way back in 2016 was because of his lateral quickness on defense. They really valued how he could come out to the three point line, and then quickly move back to protect the rim. Koloko, a recent draftee, offered similar defensive agility.

I personally like Zach Edey, and think he'll be a good NBA player. I would happily add him to the team, and adjust how we play when he is the game. I'm not sure if current management is going to be interested in doing that, though.
User avatar
WuTang_CMB
RealGM
Posts: 41,715
And1: 52,264
Joined: Sep 26, 2017
   

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1116 » by WuTang_CMB » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:01 pm

Duke tonight, i like watching filipowski's game
ChillRelaxDude
Sophomore
Posts: 100
And1: 94
Joined: Feb 06, 2022
 

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1117 » by ChillRelaxDude » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:14 pm

This draft class leaves me a bit cold, so I'm hoping we don't move up in the lottery. I'm getting the vibes of 2006.

I'm curious what the Spurs are hoping for. Has there ever been a time when a team refused the conditions of a pick and conveyed it?
redraptor77
Junior
Posts: 396
And1: 339
Joined: Feb 12, 2019
         

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1118 » by redraptor77 » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:37 pm

XTC wrote:Here's my problem with Edey. It takes him far too long to gather and make a move. His offense doesn't translate for me at the NBA level. He's not a good passer, his drop coverage is non existent, and his touch around the basket doesn't seem like it's anything special.

I honestly dont take him with any of our picks other than #31


I was thinking the exact same thing. Seems slow to gather himself . Make up his mind then moves. Once he moves it doesn’t seem quick or deliberate.
Something about his movements make make wary to take him with the first two picks. However I don’t have huge expectations of the pick
SpezNc
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,587
And1: 939
Joined: May 28, 2023
Contact:
   

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1119 » by SpezNc » Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:48 pm

ChillRelaxDude wrote:This draft class leaves me a bit cold, so I'm hoping we don't move up in the lottery. I'm getting the vibes of 2006.

I'm curious what the Spurs are hoping for. Has there ever been a time when a team refused the conditions of a pick and conveyed it?


I don’t think they would be mad if pick don’t convey but they probably hope it convey. Pick #7 would be quite a coup for them despite draft being underwhelming.

Always a small risk for them that pick never convey
User avatar
pilkoids
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,190
And1: 5,534
Joined: May 28, 2014

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1120 » by pilkoids » Sun Mar 24, 2024 4:08 pm

Edey is gone by the 17th pick, right?

Sent from my SM-S918W using RealGM mobile app

Return to Toronto Raptors