Jontay Porter betting on himself

[Gusto1903]

Crazy how it’s only the absolute scrubs that gamble and take PEDs in the NBA

Oh i wouldnt look at it that way.

Its always the scrubs or broke guys, that get caught gambling and using PEDs.

[kiwinbafan05]

[dantas]

Gambling and PEDs are much more widespread than people realise. He was only caught because he's a small fish in a big tank.

[sammo89]

Why are you guys getting bent out of shape? There is a control against insider betting, which is the bookies themselves who would lose a lot of money if that was to go on. This is a demonstration of the control WORKING, not of it failing

[fansse]

Hopefully this doesn't end his NBA career

[sfernald]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Players betting on games. Coaches betting on games (remember Pete Rose?). Refs controlling games for gambling outcomes. NBA executives can guarantee losses in the name of tanking and make money.

It’s not a sport, it’s entertainment. It all has no meaning. The playoffs mean nothing. The title means nothing. Only the ruin of fans as their pockets are emptied is left. In the end, it’s nothing more than a flashy casino designed to steal your money. Paying absurd ticket prices wasn’t enough.

NBA on the road to ruin and soon it will go the way of horse racing and boxing.

This won’t end until the greedy bastards are made to pay.

[Meeksology]

This isn't a thing that happens.

That's literally what happened in this story. The big money triggered the investigation.

But this has nothing to do with the average person betting on sports. No normal sports bettor is going to have winnings flagged or taken away, lol.

Not true. I know a couple of people who have had their accounts locked or suspended because of "suspicious activity" and the only suspicious activity is that they were winning big.

[PushDaRock]

After seeing the details it looks like he's cooked. How greedy and stupid would you have to be to do something like this. The guy is clearly not as smart as he thinks he is.

The bookies don't like losing money so betting the under on yourself is begging to get caught. And because of the size limit of bets he wasn't even making that much money. Now he's probably going to be banned for life from the NBA and might even go to jail. Minimum contracts are now over 1 million dollars. The risk/reward ratio isn't even very good on this. What a moron

Paul Hornung at least only bet the overs on himself and that's why the NFL eventually reinstated him

This is a guy on a 2 way deal which pays up to 500k in salary which would be prorated since he wasn't on the team the entire year, so looking at more like 350k. After taxes, that's maybe 200k? give or take. It's not broke but by no means is that balling money. So, while assuming this was like trying to make an extra 50k or 100k or something on the side, it's actually a substantial amount of money for him. He's also not a guy that is guaranteed to even be in the league next year. Absolutely stupid to do but the pay off at least as it relates to his situation wasn't insignificant.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

To be honest, it's more likely that he was already compromised somehow with the wrong people and he's been slowly forced to help them in this scheme, maybe blackmailing him somehow.
That's also how Donaghy got sucked in.
There's not actually enough money for someone in his position to justify the risk.

[Upperclass]

This story is horrible. Not just because it kind of has that "I told you so" feel to it after all this gambling talk in sports recently, but because of the player itself.

Jontay obviously is MPJ brother, dude who is on the current champs roster, and comes from a huge sports family. Really feel bad for the family as during the draft process it made it seem like they had that Curry type family vibe, but it seems that really wasn't the case. A lot has gone on with them, and it's sad to see, and now the entire family life is going to get brought up in the media No one wants to see that, but it's going to happen now. Feel bad for MPJ who still has to perform at the highest level now with all that going on in his personal.

I never made the connection that they were brothers while looking at boxscores, and he was playing really well in limited minutes looking at it now. He had games were he was showing all aspects of his game, passing, blocking shots, and shooting. He had a legit chance to stick around in this league, even if it was just to be a better version of what Thanasis is on the Bucks. He had a legit shot to get an NBA contract with his level of play recently.

Not a good sign for the NBA that a player chose this path and way of making money than the typical ways of working hard and fighting for your spot.

NBA and going to set a precedent here, lifetime ban. New gambling rules in the offseason or CBA.

I mentioned it before in the last thread, but gambling is cultural in so many other parts of the world, and cultures. Like someone in this thread said betting on yourself is literally the most American thing you can do. I live in UConn and i always remember how blown away I was when I turned 18 and realized it was normal for the people I worked with to go to the Casino and Strip Club after work. IT's something to this day I don't understand coming from a basic middleclass area where these things were considered destructive and nasty. There needs to be a lot of work that goes intothis other than telling guys its bad. Because they might agree with it...

He was going to be a high first-round pick before his multiple knee injuries. Teams absolutely kept him on the radar, which is why he's rehabbed most of his time in the league while on a roster. This is just absolute ridiculousness aside from the fact that he also opened up a discord to scam people looking for "investment" tips.

[MrGoat]

After seeing the details it looks like he's cooked. How greedy and stupid would you have to be to do something like this. The guy is clearly not as smart as he thinks he is.

The bookies don't like losing money so betting the under on yourself is begging to get caught. And because of the size limit of bets he wasn't even making that much money. Now he's probably going to be banned for life from the NBA and might even go to jail. Minimum contracts are now over 1 million dollars. The risk/reward ratio isn't even very good on this. What a moron

Paul Hornung at least only bet the overs on himself and that's why the NFL eventually reinstated him

This is a guy on a 2 way deal which pays up to 500k in salary which would be prorated since he wasn't on the team the entire year, so looking at more like 350k. After taxes, that's maybe 200k? give or take. It's not broke but by no means is that balling money. So, while assuming this was like trying to make an extra 50k or 100k or something on the side, it's actually a substantial amount of money for him. He's also not a guy that is guaranteed to even be in the league next year. Absolutely stupid to do but the pay off at least as it relates to his situation wasn't insignificant.

He's not even going to be able to try for an international spot now. No professional team is going to want to touch him after this. It's just so colossally stupid and just wasn't worth the risk.

[PushDaRock]

After seeing the details it looks like he's cooked. How greedy and stupid would you have to be to do something like this. The guy is clearly not as smart as he thinks he is.

The bookies don't like losing money so betting the under on yourself is begging to get caught. And because of the size limit of bets he wasn't even making that much money. Now he's probably going to be banned for life from the NBA and might even go to jail. Minimum contracts are now over 1 million dollars. The risk/reward ratio isn't even very good on this. What a moron

Paul Hornung at least only bet the overs on himself and that's why the NFL eventually reinstated him

This is a guy on a 2 way deal which pays up to 500k in salary which would be prorated since he wasn't on the team the entire year, so looking at more like 350k. After taxes, that's maybe 200k? give or take. It's not broke but by no means is that balling money. So, while assuming this was like trying to make an extra 50k or 100k or something on the side, it's actually a substantial amount of money for him. He's also not a guy that is guaranteed to even be in the league next year. Absolutely stupid to do but the pay off at least as it relates to his situation wasn't insignificant.

He's not even going to be able to try for an international spot now. No professional team is going to want to touch him after this. It's just so colossally stupid and just wasn't worth the risk.

Anytime you get caught, of course it looks stupid and not worth it. Obviously people that do this never think they are going to get caught.

[old skool]

Player behavior does not necessarily prove an attempt to manipulate an outcome.

35 years ago, Scottie Pipen was condemned for being soft as he cited "migraines" as the reason he couldn't play against the Pistons. That obviously impacted the outcome. Today that would fuel rampant bet fixing speculation.

Before that, Willis Reed was not expected to play a key playoff game due to a legit injury, but he dramatically limped out of the lockerroom to lead the Knicks to a championship. Today skeptics would be howling if a star player was announced "out" for a key game, spent warm-ups in civvies, only to emerge mid game and impact the outcome of a championship game.

Bet fixing or influencing is a real risk and will certainly occur on some level, but cannot always be identified by "suspicious" player behavior. It is foolish to reach definitive conclusions based on sketchy incomplete reports on games and betting that occurred months ago. Let's wait to see the results of the various investigations before throwing out uninformed 30 second conjecture.

[HMFFL]

Why is anyone surprised? They are just using the product being peddled to us 24/7 as sports fans

Exactly!
I can't be friends or associate on any personal level with those that are surprised...lol

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Lol.

People really don’t get this. NBA journalism is about access. The NBA shuts these dudes down in situations like this. Same thing Stern did during Donaghy. You won’t be hearing much from people associated with the league.

[grimlock]

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Lol.

People really don’t get this. NBA journalism is about access. The NBA shuts these dudes down in situations like this. Same thing Stern did during Donaghy. You won’t be hearing much from people associated with the league.

Well thank god for the NBA that traditional investigative journalism is dead. Lets just wait for this to pass, aaaaaaannnnddd.. back to business and normal!

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Lol.

People really don’t get this. NBA journalism is about access. The NBA shuts these dudes down in situations like this. Same thing Stern did during Donaghy. You won’t be hearing much from people associated with the league.

Woj has been reporting fine. Shams is employed by FanDuel.

[lonzo_pelota]

what was the over/under that Dame was gonna hit two half court shots during the most recent all star game? All this betting and shenanigans is new to me.


Or what about the way the Pelicans rolled over in that in season tournament game, it looked almost obvious, no kerfuffle came of that.