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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1741 » by mtcan » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:15 pm

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mtcan wrote:If you every prospect as being potentially injury ridden you can say that about Chet and Wemby.

There doesn't seem to be any concern regarding Alex Sarr with respect to injury.

Alex Sarr reminds me more of Evan Mobley than Dereck Lively in the way he moves. Lively's movements are a bit more mechanical.

In terms of movement, awareness and offensive potential...Sarr reminds me more of Mobley.


Sarr also reminds me of Evan Mobley, I think that is a very good comp for him. Mobley was much more advanced than Sarr going into the draft, but he was also a year older. I don't think Sarr is going to be very good as a 19 year rookie in the NBA, and is going to need to improve a lot to get to Mobley's level, but the potential is there. In general, I think that "poor man's Mobley" is a reasonable expectation for what he'll eventually be in the NBA.

There's a video of Mobley doing a back flip at a beach at the same age. Sarr can't do that lol. There's a clear distinction between them fluidity and athletically. It's criminal to compare these two. Sarr is going to be the biggest no. 1 pick bust since Bargnani.

To be fair...we don't know if Sarr can or cannot. :lol: :lol:

And no...that isn't a metric by which you compare someone's athleticism. But I get it...you're not a Sarr fan. Point taken. Doesn't necessarily mean he isn't still comparable to Mobley though.
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Post#1742 » by CazOnReal » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:34 pm

Gavin_TDThree wrote:I've sold myself on Sarr. I can already picture him as a lob threat with Scottie running the fast break. If he can become a reliable shooter than I think he's the perfect compliment to Scottie

I was sold on Alex when someone suggested the nickname "DinoSarr".
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Post#1743 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:38 pm

MEDIC wrote:The latest ESPN mock has Raps taking Matas Buzelis at 6. I find him to be a pretty intriguing prospect. Especially because we lack quality langth the 4. If he turned into something special, Scottie could play the 3 to make room.for him in the SL.

Watching his ball handling, finishing moves & mid range shots, I could not help but picture Kelly Olenyk. Kelly Olenyk with speed and hops would be a very solid player.


I'm itching to get to workout season this summer because I'm still firmly on team Holland because of the upside and the fact he can fill into the POA wing defender role OG left open. I also think Scottie would be best at the 4 where he has a quickness advantage.

I also see Castle as a Raptors guy because of the decision making, ability to play in a low usage role and his defense. He would also look good next to IQ or Gradey because of his size
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Post#1744 » by Gavin_TDThree » Tue Apr 2, 2024 10:51 pm

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Gavin_TDThree wrote:I've sold myself on Sarr. I can already picture him as a lob threat with Scottie running the fast break. If he can become a reliable shooter than I think he's the perfect compliment to Scottie

I was sold on Alex when someone suggested the nickname "DinoSarr".


well that's just too good to pass up at this point!
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Post#1746 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:03 am

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If he wants to show his value he has to go to a team where he’s featured. It’ll either make him or break him.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Post#1747 » by Bruin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:05 am

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I don’t think it’s real. dick Weiss isn’t a good source and there’s no reason to think Woj wouldn’t break the news. Nobody else has reported it
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Post#1748 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:20 am

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I don’t think it’s real. dick Weiss isn’t a good source and there’s no reason to think Woj wouldn’t break the news. Nobody else has reported it


Yahoo posted an article about it 11 minutes ago....maybe it's real?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lebron-james-son-transfer-000946275.html
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Post#1749 » by Bruin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:23 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:
Bruin wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:
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I don’t think it’s real. dick Weiss isn’t a good source and there’s no reason to think Woj wouldn’t break the news. Nobody else has reported it


Yahoo posted an article about it 11 minutes ago....maybe it's real?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lebron-james-son-transfer-000946275.html

It’s being reposted everywhere and they’re crediting Dick Weiss. Weiss is not a source. It’ll be hilarious when Lebron and/or Klutch tweets to refute the report. Right now media is eating it all up but I’m pretty confident it’s fake
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Post#1750 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:25 am

USC **** program right now. He needed to transfer and dominate next year
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Post#1751 » by JShuttlesworth » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:28 am

Bruin wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
Bruin wrote:I don’t think it’s real. dick Weiss isn’t a good source and there’s no reason to think Woj wouldn’t break the news. Nobody else has reported it


Yahoo posted an article about it 11 minutes ago....maybe it's real?

https://sports.yahoo.com/report-lebron-james-son-transfer-000946275.html

It’s being reposted everywhere and they’re crediting Dick Weiss. Weiss is not a source. It’ll be hilarious when Lebron and/or Klutch tweets to refute the report. Right now media is eating it all up but I’m pretty confident it’s fake


Definitely strange that someone like Woj or Shams hasn't reported it

He should transfer out though, get himself to a better situation to just enjoy his time playing ball in College
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Post#1752 » by Bruin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:28 am

WuTang_OG wrote:USC **** program right now. He needed to transfer and dominate next year

Even if he does transfer (still a possibility cause his coach left to SMU), he’s not dominating unless he goes a step down to a mid major. Which he won’t do
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Post#1753 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:48 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:USC **** program right now. He needed to transfer and dominate next year

Even if he does transfer (still a possibility cause his coach left to SMU), he’s not dominating unless he goes a step down to a mid major. Which he won’t do


He’ll need to if he wants to get drafted or at least show a solid jump
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Post#1754 » by Bruin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 12:57 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:USC **** program right now. He needed to transfer and dominate next year

Even if he does transfer (still a possibility cause his coach left to SMU), he’s not dominating unless he goes a step down to a mid major. Which he won’t do


He’ll need to if he wants to get drafted or at least show a solid jump

USC might just be the best spot for that to happen. They essentially have no returning backcourt and their highest rated recruit just decommitted earlier today. Bronny would get a lot more opportunity if he just stays at USC.

Things could change very quickly though if Musselman gets the job at USC and decides to bring in some of his Arkansas guys and/or recruit over Bronny
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Post#1755 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:03 am

Bruin wrote:
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Bruin wrote:Even if he does transfer (still a possibility cause his coach left to SMU), he’s not dominating unless he goes a step down to a mid major. Which he won’t do


He’ll need to if he wants to get drafted or at least show a solid jump

USC might just be the best spot for that to happen. They essentially have no returning backcourt and their highest rated recruit just decommitted earlier today. Bronny would get a lot more opportunity if he just stays at USC.

Things could change very quickly though if Musselman gets the job at USC and decides to bring in some of his Arkansas guys and/or recruit over Bronny


See if this is true and he does enter transfer portal to leave. USC just been a mess i dont blame him
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Post#1756 » by ArthurVandelay » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:24 am

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Sarr also reminds me of Evan Mobley, I think that is a very good comp for him. Mobley was much more advanced than Sarr going into the draft, but he was also a year older. I don't think Sarr is going to be very good as a 19 year rookie in the NBA, and is going to need to improve a lot to get to Mobley's level, but the potential is there. In general, I think that "poor man's Mobley" is a reasonable expectation for what he'll eventually be in the NBA.

There's a video of Mobley doing a back flip at a beach at the same age. Sarr can't do that lol. There's a clear distinction between them fluidity and athletically. It's criminal to compare these two. Sarr is going to be the biggest no. 1 pick bust since Bargnani.

To be fair...we don't know if Sarr can or cannot. :lol: :lol:

And no...that isn't a metric by which you compare someone's athleticism. But I get it...you're not a Sarr fan. Point taken. Doesn't necessarily mean he isn't still comparable to Mobley though.


I actually think it’s a fair comparison. In fact I give the edge to Sarr in terms of ceiling going into their respective drafts. Here’s why:


Physical dimensions edge to Sarr

Mobley is 6’11 and 215lbs according to espn. All the draft reports had his wingspan at 7’4. His standing reach is reported to be 9’0.

Sarr is 7’1 and 215. His wingspan is reported to be 7’5. Standing reach is 9’3.


Age edge goes to Sarr

Mobley was born June 18, 2001 meaning on draft night he was 20 years old. He competed in college as a 19 year old freshman against other college age athletes.

Sarr was born April 26, 2005 and he’ll be 19 on draft night. He competed as an 18 year old rookie in a professional league against grown men.


Eye test athleticism (extremely subjective) edge goes to Sarr.

To be fair, this is like trying to compare a Ferrari and a Lamborghini. Both are elite athletes with insane speed, agility, coordination, and leaping ability in 6’11 and 7’1 frames. Comparing their freshman and NBL season highlights, I see Sarr being a faster and more fluid athlete.






When looking at their play, they are pretty similar but there are some subtle differences. Mid range and 3 are pretty similar. Mobley has an advantage in the post and passing imo while Sarr has a much better handle and ability to use the dribble.


Per36

Tough to compare stats across leagues and roles. Mobley was a top recruit freshman starting and playing 33 games and 1120 minutes (33.9mpg). Sarr was a top recruit for the Shooting Stars program (typically a one and done program) however it’s a little different as a French man playing in an Australian pro league with men. Sarr played 30 games and 540 minutes (18.0mpg).

Mobley
17.4pts, 9.2reb, 2.5ast, 0.8stl, 3.1blk, 2.3to
58/30/69% on 11/1.2/6.2 attempts (61.5% 2fg)
29.4 PER, .624 ts%, .595 eFG%, 9.6 ORB%, 18.9 DRB%, 14.9 TRB%, 14.1 AST%, 1.4 STL%, 8.8 BLK%, 14.6 TO%, 22.8 USG

Sarr
19.2pts, 9.0rebs, 2.1ast, 0.9stl, 3.1blk, 2.1to
50/28/71% on 14.3/3.9/5.5 attempts (58.5% on 2fg)
21.0 PER, .576 ts%, .537 eFG%, 8.8 ORB%, 18.2 DRB%, 13.4 TRB%, 9.5 AST%, 1.2 STL%, 8.0 BLK%, 11.0 TO%, 21.9 USG


Not included in these stats are the games vs the Ignite that resulted in #1 hype throughout the fall. Just a reminder what he did with NBA spacing, minutes, and opportunity: https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/9/20/23881605/2024-nba-draft-alex-sarr-breakout-prospect


So to wrap it up, entering the NBA I’m giving the edge to Sarr over Mobley.
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Post#1757 » by Bruin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:25 am

WuTang_OG wrote:
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He’ll need to if he wants to get drafted or at least show a solid jump

USC might just be the best spot for that to happen. They essentially have no returning backcourt and their highest rated recruit just decommitted earlier today. Bronny would get a lot more opportunity if he just stays at USC.

Things could change very quickly though if Musselman gets the job at USC and decides to bring in some of his Arkansas guys and/or recruit over Bronny


See if this is true and he does enter transfer portal to leave. USC just been a mess i dont blame him

Well the fact is that there aren’t that many schools actually willing to take him on so options are kind of limited. If he were to enter the portal it’ll probably be between SMU, Ohio State, and Oregon
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Post#1758 » by WuTang_CMB » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:31 am

Bruin wrote:
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Bruin wrote:USC might just be the best spot for that to happen. They essentially have no returning backcourt and their highest rated recruit just decommitted earlier today. Bronny would get a lot more opportunity if he just stays at USC.

Things could change very quickly though if Musselman gets the job at USC and decides to bring in some of his Arkansas guys and/or recruit over Bronny


See if this is true and he does enter transfer portal to leave. USC just been a mess i dont blame him

Well the fact is that there aren’t that many schools actually willing to take him on so options are kind of limited. If he were to enter the portal it’ll probably be between SMU, Ohio State, and Oregon


Hes better off. Never liked the USC choice for him
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Post#1759 » by BoyzNTheHood » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:39 am

I would consider him at 31… depending on who’s in the board of course

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Post#1760 » by bballsparkin » Wed Apr 3, 2024 1:42 am

The one consistent thing I've noticed at all the different mock drafts is Sarr and Zaccharie near the top of their predictions. I can't imagine either drops past 4th. But who knows.

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