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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Woj: "MRI shows Achilles tendon fully intact"/Shams: "Best Case Outcome" 

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Post#1362 » by emunney » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:10 pm

Feels a lot like the knee against ATL in that my reaction to the news of no catastrophe was, "At least *next* year isn't ruined."
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Post#1363 » by humanrefutation » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:13 pm

They have to be careful with the calf strain that he doesn't come back too soon and end up tearing his achilles like KD.
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Post#1364 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:20 pm

emunney wrote:Feels a lot like the knee against ATL in that my reaction to the news of no catastrophe was, "At least *next* year isn't ruined."

Yeah, especially since we don't keep our pick if we suck. There would be no silver lining and my fandom would be at a point where I would probably just give up NBA for a year.
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Post#1365 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:26 pm

humanrefutation wrote:They have to be careful with the calf strain that he doesn't come back too soon and end up tearing his achilles like KD.


Basically they're going to have deny his desire to play. Because he's going to demand being activated.
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Post#1366 » by Jez2983 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:33 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:I think it’s very reasonable to have watched that injury last night, and remember the Achilles tendinitis earlier and be worried that it was the Achilles or a serious injury. Now claiming it’s for sure an Achilles is wild. I also think the people surely claiming it was just cramp or just strain before the mri was just as wild too.

All in all great news overall.


Were you the person who was calling the guy on Twitter a quack because he expected it to be a strain? If it wasn't, I'm sorry.

Whoever it was, he was right. The 'walk-off' effect has diagnostic predictive value in determining a less-severe injury.

Also, how do you think we diagnosed injury before MRI? Not only did we do it (and fairly well), but MRI throws up false positives, like every other clinical examination in existence.
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Post#1367 » by CharityStripe34 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:06 pm

I probably had a Grade 2 strain (or partial tear even) as there was a lot of bruising. It was the only injury I ever suffered (knock on wood) and it took a few weeks for me to get decent feeling back in it (probably around 3-4 weeks). It took maybe three months to get back to normal, more or less. I suppose it all depends if it was Grade 1 or Grade 2 for Freak.

Grade I: Partial stretch or tearing of a few muscle fibers. The muscle is mildly tender and painful, but maintains its normal strength. Leg use is not limited, and walking is normal. Average time to return to sports activities is 10 - 12 days.

Grade II: Moderate stretch or tearing of muscle fibers. The muscle is tender with pain and loss of strength. Sometimes bruising will occur. Leg use is limited and limping when walking is common. Average time to return to sports activities is 16 - 21 days.


Depending on either one of these, it should be about 2-3 weeks for him.
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Post#1368 » by Milbucks96 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:07 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:I think it’s very reasonable to have watched that injury last night, and remember the Achilles tendinitis earlier and be worried that it was the Achilles or a serious injury. Now claiming it’s for sure an Achilles is wild. I also think the people surely claiming it was just cramp or just strain before the mri was just as wild too.

All in all great news overall.


Bucks initial diagnosis was calf strain.

That’s common before confirming serious injuries later. You see acl as knee sprains originally before they do the real test.
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Post#1369 » by Milbucks96 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:14 pm

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Milbucks96 wrote:I think it’s very reasonable to have watched that injury last night, and remember the Achilles tendinitis earlier and be worried that it was the Achilles or a serious injury. Now claiming it’s for sure an Achilles is wild. I also think the people surely claiming it was just cramp or just strain before the mri was just as wild too.

All in all great news overall.


Were you the person who was calling the guy on Twitter a quack because he expected it to be a strain? If it wasn't, I'm sorry.

Whoever it was, he was right. The 'walk-off' effect has diagnostic predictive value in determining a less-severe injury.

Also, how do you think we diagnosed injury before MRI? Not only did we do it (and fairly well), but MRI throws up false positives, like every other clinical examination in existence.

No it was not me lol have no idea what you’re talking about. Also I’m not sure if you’re arguing against anything I’ve said, I’ve and one’d all of your post about injuries since you’re in that field and I didn’t make any post claiming Giannis’s injury was more serious or anything. Just scary to see.

I’m just saying that after watching Giannis go down last night and thinking about the earlier tendinitis, someone like me who doesn’t know much about that stuff will naturally start to worry it’s serious but obviously wait for the official diag. I think that’s reasonable.

If you thought my post was directed at you it wasn’t, it was the ones calling it obviously a cramp before the game was even over. I leave that stuff to the experts.
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Post#1370 » by Profound23 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:44 pm

humanrefutation wrote:They have to be careful with the calf strain that he doesn't come back too soon and end up tearing his achilles like KD.


Exactly, especially with his type of play. That could be a career ender.

If he is not ready in round 1 and we lose, so be it. Not worth risking his future, especially with how horrible we have been playing anyways.
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Post#1371 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:47 pm

Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.
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Post#1372 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:59 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.
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Post#1373 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:05 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Neither us nor the Clippers entertain that. The storyline to watch is if George opts into his $48 million option after another early playoff exit and Ballmer finally gets antsy about footing such a massive luxury tax bill for a perennial middling playoff seed. That's when we should swoop in and swing for the fences with a Khris + Brook for PG deal.
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Post#1374 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:13 pm

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theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Neither us nor the Clippers entertain that. The storyline to watch is if George opts into his $48 million option after another early playoff exit and Ballmer finally gets antsy about footing such a massive luxury tax bill for a perennial middling playoff seed. That's when we should swoop in and swing for the fences with a Khris + Brook for PG deal.


Disagree. The medical staff here could do wonders for Kawhi.

They keep trying to win it all in LA. Re-sign Harden & PG. New arena. Weird free throw cheering section policy. Steph Vs Dame 4 times a year.
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Post#1375 » by brewbucks » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:17 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Kawhi is not playing in Milwaukee. He already makes the drive from San Diego to LA everyday and if Dame is allegedly not happy here (living wise), Kawhi would be much worse.
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Post#1376 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:19 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:
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theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Neither us nor the Clippers entertain that. The storyline to watch is if George opts into his $48 million option after another early playoff exit and Ballmer finally gets antsy about footing such a massive luxury tax bill for a perennial middling playoff seed. That's when we should swoop in and swing for the fences with a Khris + Brook for PG deal.


Disagree. The medical staff here could do wonders for Kawhi.

They keep trying to win it all in LA. Re-sign Harden & PG. New arena. Weird free throw cheering section policy. Steph Vs Dame 4 times a year.

So are medical staff is somehow way better than LACs? Would Midds have been regressing if it wasn't for them?

ETA: it is kind of funny someone thinks KL would play here when he left 2 championship winning franchises to go back to SoCal....And has shown a willingness to sit whenever he damn well pleases. He probably just skips all of Jan-Feb and stays in Cali if he was traded to the bucks.
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Post#1377 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:21 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Neither us nor the Clippers entertain that. The storyline to watch is if George opts into his $48 million option after another early playoff exit and Ballmer finally gets antsy about footing such a massive luxury tax bill for a perennial middling playoff seed. That's when we should swoop in and swing for the fences with a Khris + Brook for PG deal.


Disagree. The medical staff here could do wonders for Kawhi.

They keep trying to win it all in LA. Re-sign Harden & PG. New arena. Weird free throw cheering section policy. Steph Vs Dame 4 times a year.


They just inked Kawhi to a massive extension and LA is basically the only place he's ever wanted to play. They're not trading him unless he demands out. I also don't see how a Lillard/Harden backcourt makes any kind of sense for them. I at least see a ~50% chance that Ballmer talks himself into a "one last ride" re-tool with a Harden/Mann/Khris/Kawhi/Brook core.
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Post#1378 » by Profound23 » Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:32 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:Would the Clippers do a Kawhi for Dame trade? Say it doesn't work out these playoffs & Doc sees a fit issue.

Kawhi has his health concerns. Dame is from Cali. Kawhi definitely brings defense, effort that fits with Giannis & Bev is down with him.

If you deal Dame. That seems like one you could pull & have the big guy behind it.

Klaw & GA puts serious clamps down together. Wingspan, hands all over the court with skill.


Neither us nor the Clippers entertain that. The storyline to watch is if George opts into his $48 million option after another early playoff exit and Ballmer finally gets antsy about footing such a massive luxury tax bill for a perennial middling playoff seed. That's when we should swoop in and swing for the fences with a Khris + Brook for PG deal.


Or a massive deal of Khris, Lopez, Dame for Kawhi, PG, Zubac. :lol:
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Post#1379 » by Bucks4Milwaukee » Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:03 pm

Great news on Giannis. Now hopefully we can play our cards right in how we finish out the season and Lady Luck is on our side. Best matchups in order for first round would be Orlando, Cleveland, Miami, New York, Philly, and then Indy…all so close in the East.
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Post#1380 » by DanoMac » Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:28 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:
theFireBlanket wrote:
Milbucks96 wrote:I think it’s very reasonable to have watched that injury last night, and remember the Achilles tendinitis earlier and be worried that it was the Achilles or a serious injury. Now claiming it’s for sure an Achilles is wild. I also think the people surely claiming it was just cramp or just strain before the mri was just as wild too.

All in all great news overall.


Bucks initial diagnosis was calf strain.

That’s common before confirming serious injuries later. You see acl as knee sprains originally before they do the real test.


While true, typically after a devastating injury someone with any sort of knowledge will tweet something to the effect of "The team is fearing the worst" or "The team fears he tore his ACL/Achilles". Also, Thanasis coming back to the bench then subsequently laughing and chopping it up with Jrue after the game was a sign that it wasn't something super serious as well.

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