2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[MEDIC]

Per 36, 'Stocks' posted in their league this year:

Ighodaro: 2.6

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

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He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little things most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

[Dalek]

chomche, 6'9, 7'3 wingspan

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oof, online was saying he was 6'11.

7'3 wingspan and 240 is solid tho

Chomche is probably less of a C prospect and more of a long-term PF in the NBA. Body type pretty much matches up identically with Pascal Siakam. Watching the limited film he plays a lot like a C protecting the rim and finishing on dunks at the rim, but he has some semblance of a face up game and a three ball. I'd think he is a two year development guy, but this is typically the guy Masai loves.

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[Dalek]

Per 36, 'Stocks' posted in their league this year:

Ighodaro: 2.6

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

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He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little thigs most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

I really like Oso's bball IQ and he looks like a guy that will be in the NBA for 10 years. Great fit for this type of system.

The lack of shooting gravity is a bit sketchy for the Raptors, and I think he measures a bit short as a C but he is a great offensive hub type. He is also a capable defender. I think he is a guy that could play in the rotation sooner, although the question with him is always, is there enough scoring around him.

I have always liked the concept of drafting Oso and Kolek this year. Fits our two biggest needs and the chemistry will be there for both.

If we have a lotto pick we can gamble a bit on long-term upside, but for the other two picks those two would be solid.

[MEDIC]

I have always liked the concept of drafting Oso and Kolek this year. Fits our two biggest needs and the chemistry will be there for both.

If we have a lotto pick we can gamble a bit on long-term upside, but for the other two picks those two would be solid.

Yeah. I had the same thought. I really like Kolek too. If we had kept the other pick, that may have been a possibility. Those 2 having some chemistry off the bench would be a bonus.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I've become dangerously focused on Collier with the Pacers pick.

I think you have to take him if he’s available at the Pacers pick just as an asset alone.

[RoteSchroder]

Per 36, 'Stocks' posted in their league this year:

Ighodaro: 2.6

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/1cZxRfry-Ik?si=54qAkxs58nK8_aP_[/youtube]

[youtube]https://youtu.be/MAUn5XquPFA?si=k6rvfjQ5YkRRp4RR[/youtube]

He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little thigs most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

I really like Oso's bball IQ and he looks like a guy that will be in the NBA for 10 years. Great fit for this type of system.

The lack of shooting gravity is a bit sketchy for the Raptors, and I think he measures a bit short as a C but he is a great offensive hub type. He is also a capable defender. I think he is a guy that could play in the rotation sooner, although the question with him is always, is there enough scoring around him.

I have always liked the concept of drafting Oso and Kolek this year. Fits our two biggest needs and the chemistry will be there for both.

If we have a lotto pick we can gamble a bit on long-term upside, but for the other two picks those two would be solid.

I like Oso, but he doesn't project to be a shooter any time in the near future. Do we really even need a Thaddeus Young type of player? We just gave Thad up for nothing.

[nivisi9]

The more film I watch of Collin Murray-Boyle, the more excited I get about his pro development. At 18 he is 6'7 and 230 lbs and he is a physical beast who scores in the paint and defends every multi-positions.

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Look at him cover Dalton Knecht:

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He really gives me shades of OG in his freshman year. But OG didn't even had a 10.3 BPM and 4.3 DBPM. OG hit more threes in college, but he was a 52% from the freethrow line in college. CMB will get better with more reps.

Interesting player. Seems to be mocked all over the place. I’ll leave this one up to the pro scouts but he’s one of those guys who could be very good or outside the league in two years.

I guess you are referencing his shooting with the comment about being outside the league in two years. The 67% from the line is meh, but he was also 68% at the rim and flashed some mid-range touch at times. He also has a face up game and can drive the ball with big long steps to get to the rim quick.

I think at 18 he has time to develop the jumper, just like OG did. Beyond rim scoring, he has great passing instincts 17% ast rate and his FTR is 43.9 which is elite.

He is a bone crusher on screens and is just really physical in every sense. Defense and rebounding is where you see the high motor. I know he might end up returning, but this draft has very few excellent 2 way prospects and at his age and the conference he played in, he showed some serious upside. At minimum he is a Jae'sean Tate who can play PF and switch on defense. If he continues to develop on offense, he could be an OG type. His defense is excellent for an 18 year-old and he has some good instincts that make me think he is a high IQ bball player.

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I thought he wasn't entering the draft?

If do would love him

[TimeForChange]

Interesting player. Seems to be mocked all over the place. I’ll leave this one up to the pro scouts but he’s one of those guys who could be very good or outside the league in two years.

I guess you are referencing his shooting with the comment about being outside the league in two years. The 67% from the line is meh, but he was also 68% at the rim and flashed some mid-range touch at times. He also has a face up game and can drive the ball with big long steps to get to the rim quick.

I think at 18 he has time to develop the jumper, just like OG did. Beyond rim scoring, he has great passing instincts 17% ast rate and his FTR is 43.9 which is elite.

He is a bone crusher on screens and is just really physical in every sense. Defense and rebounding is where you see the high motor. I know he might end up returning, but this draft has very few excellent 2 way prospects and at his age and the conference he played in, he showed some serious upside. At minimum he is a Jae'sean Tate who can play PF and switch on defense. If he continues to develop on offense, he could be an OG type. His defense is excellent for an 18 year-old and he has some good instincts that make me think he is a high IQ bball player.

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I thought he wasn't entering the draft?

If do would love him

he is returning to school

[dohboy_24]

I'm not sure who I'd take if we got inside the top 3-4. Not a huge fan of Topic / Risacher if they are consensus top 3 picks. Probably look to trade down if possible.

Since 2000, the #3 or #4 pick has only been traded a few times and more often than not, it was traded for a pick just a few spots lower or multiple picks in the same draft.

2006 - #4 pick Tyrus Thomas for LaMarcus Aldridge
2008 - #3 pick OJ Mayo traded for the #5 pick Kevin Love
2018 - #3 pick Luka Doncic traded for the #5 pick Trae Young
2019 - #4 pick De'Andre Hunter traded for the #8 pick Jaxson Hayes & #17 pick Nickeil Alexander-Walker

In the 2024 draft, the teams that could end up with the #5 pick should we move up in the draft would be:

Detroit
Washington
San Antonio
Charlotte
Portland

Unless one of those teams has their eyes set on someone like Topic or Clingan and they're afraid he won't be available at the #5 pick, I don't think any of those teams would be ideal trade partners with us.

Should we decide to trade out of the top 4, the teams with multiple first round picks in the 2024 draft are:

Portland - #5, #13. Would the Blazers give up 2 lottery picks to move up 2 spots in the draft?

New Orleans - #16, #23. Are 2 first round picks in the middle of the first round enough value in exchange for a top 4 pick?

Atlanta - #10, #19. Similar to the package from the 2019 draft, this could be fair value for both teams should the Hawks target someone in the top 4.

Oklahoma City- #12, #25. Although it's a slightly worse package than what Atlanta could offer, the Thunder have lots of prospects and future first round picks they could add to sweeten the deal.

Given the above, only Atlanta and Oklahoma City make the most sense but since a 2-for-1 trade would give us four rookies on the team next season I'm not convinced we'd seriously entertain trading out of the top 4 unless its for an established player rather than draft picks and then I'm not sure who would be available and/or fit alongside the talent we have on the team and their timelines for growth and development.

[Ell Curry]

Per 36, 'Stocks' posted in their league this year:

Ighodaro: 2.6

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little things most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

I watched a couple Marquette games close, and what I saw from Oso was:

-Good passer and very smart on O as a DHO guy but obviously can't shoot
-Questionable finisher inside
-Hands looked terrible on rebounds and tight catches in the game they were eliminated, which is odd because he handles it a fair amount
-Not a rim protector

I dunno, he needs to either get stronger or get a shot. I think he might be in Johntay mode where he can't anchor an NBA D or play the 4 and without a 3 that's a tough fit. Poeltl was definitely thicker and more of a traditional 5 when he was in college (remember the hyped Sabonis matchup in particular).

[Ell Curry]

Murray-Boyles seems like a guy you draft if you have a stretch 5 and one you can't if you don't.

[Dalek]

Wait, I might be back on the Chomche wagon. He grew two inches today:

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[TNRaps4life]

Per 36, 'Stocks' posted in their league this year:

Ighodaro: 2.6

This is my guy at 31. I think the Raps could use a super mobile high post big like him off the bench. Good court vision from the mid post & elbow. Great passing skills. Excellent push shot/ floater within 10 feet. I am really interested in seeing his pre-draft measurements.

His skill set reminds me of Poeltl. Just more mobile & a little shorter. I think he fits Darko's system perfectly.

Watch on YouTube

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He's not a highlight reel player. Just does a lot of little things most players aren't willing to do. High IQ plays.

Not my kind of player. Another 6'9 that cannot shoot

[MEDIC]

Wait, I might be back on the Chomche wagon. He grew two inches today:

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Lol. I have no idea what to believe anymore.

Hopefully these are correct. I was a little concerned after seeing the original measurements for Will Riley

[MainEvent]

Wait, I might be back on the Chomche wagon. He grew two inches today:

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i hope these are the real ones

[VanWest82]

Pelton released his WARP prospect rankings for those interested. I'm not his biggest fan, but I find this kind of unified statistical ranking system helpful given we have guys coming from other parts of the world.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/39906470/nba-draft-2024-projecting-30-best-prospects

2. Reed Sheppard
Kentucky
G
Top 100: No. 7
Stats: No. 1

Consensus: 3.7 WARP

Although Sheppard's 52% 3-point shooting (on a robust sample of 144 attempts) is regressed down to a projected 39% as an NBA rookie, that's still the best projection for any player since Doug McDermott -- who had multiple years of college data -- in 2014. Sheppard's projected 2.5 steals per 100 plays, second among players in this year's top 100, is almost as impressive as his shooting. Thanks largely to those key skills, Sheppard has the best stats-only projection in this year's draft.

5. Zaccharie Risacher
Bourg
SF
Top 100: No. 1
Stats: No. 81

Consensus: 2.2 WARP

On the plus side, Risacher -- currently atop ESPN's draft rankings -- averaged 13.1 PPG in just 24 minutes per game during EuroCup play at 18 years old (he turned 19 on Monday), making 57% of his 2s and 56% of his 3s. That performance was out of line with Risacher's play in the French LNB Pro A, however, as he shot just 51% on 2s and 34% on 3s. And a 69% career free throw shooting percentage across all first-division competition suggests Risacher's 3-point hot streak in EuroCup play might not be legitimate.

[OAKLEY_2]

I've become dangerously focused on Collier with the Pacers pick.

I think you have to take him if he’s available at the Pacers pick just as an asset alone.

He will be gone. Is my best guess.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I've become dangerously focused on Collier with the Pacers pick.

I think you have to take him if he’s available at the Pacers pick just as an asset alone.

He will be gone. Is my best guess.

Most likely

[grant101]

I think you have to take him if he’s available at the Pacers pick just as an asset alone.

He will be gone. Is my best guess.

Most likely

Yup... though I struggle to see an obvious fit on teams drafting late lotto before the Pacers pick, so there may be more of a chance than we're projecting

[dohboy_24]

Collier is unlikely to be chosen among the top 10, so who would be most likely to select him ahead of the Pacers pick at #17?

#11 - Chicago
#12 - Oklahoma City
#13 - Portland (via Golden State)
#14 - New Orleans (via LA Lakers)
#15 - Philadelphia
#16 - Miami

He's not the typical Heat type of pick, but could be a backup for the 76ers or Pelicans.

Otherwise, Portland, OKC and Chicago would likely priotize other positions or needs as their backcourts are already quite full.

Of the six teams that could possibly select him, only two of them would likely have him on their draft boards as a tier 1 prospect and among them, they could have other guards like Jared McCain, Ja'Kobe Walter, Kyshawn George or Devin Carter ranked ahead of him.