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2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

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Post#801 » by Thaddy » Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:04 pm

The top 3 right now for me would be Holland, Sarr, and Castle measuring and testing well in workouts. I see Clingan and Topic dropping after the combine. They either have too many holes in their game to develop or the ceiling is too low.
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Post#802 » by PoundTown » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:02 pm

Topic is slightly bigger goran dragic, but possibly with Jose Calderon defence. Clingan is probably Walker Kessler, but probably not quite as elite a rim protector. He feels like a sure thing to be a top 15-25 Center. So, decent player but nothing more.

This draft is hard lol. Praying for sarr. While he probably won’t be a superstar, will probably be an impactful two way Center you can finish games with amd doesn’t have any major weaknesses.
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Post#803 » by causal_fan » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:20 pm

I know the draft is considered weak but there's always talent - it's the raptors job to draft & develop the right guys - 2013 had a lot of misses but also 2 likely hall of famers in Giannis (15) and Rudy (27), not to mention many solid players like Steve Adams, CJ McCollum etc. - so it's up to the team and their scouts/development team to make the smart decisions.
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Post#804 » by dohboy_24 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:23 pm

Those of you looking for someone to replace Christian Koloko need to look no further than Ugonna Kingsley Onyenso from Kentucky by way of Nigeria.

A true giant of Africa who could be mistaken for the 4th Antetokounmpo brother, he stands 7 feet tall, weighs 250 pounds and has a 7-5 wingspan.

After arriving in the US in January 2022, he played for Putnam Science Academy during the second semester before averaging 4 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 18 minutes this season at Kentucky.

During a game in February of this year against Ole Miss, he recorded 10 blocks that he claims should have been one more during his post-presser interview, but he could be one of many high-risk, high-reward prospects who could be drafted much lower than his peers, yet ultimately outperform them after 2-3 more years of development.



"Per Sports-Reference.com, Onyenso's block percentage — a measure estimating the percentage of an opponent's two-point field-goal attempts blocked by a player while on the floor — of 15.9 in 2022-23 would have been the ninth-best season by a Division I player since the statistic started being tracked in 2009-10 had he played enough to qualify."

SOURCE: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/2024/04/16/ugonna-onyenso-nba-draft-2024-kentucky-basketball-roster-john-calipari/73014472007/

DOCUMENTARY:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/wx1s9g/documentary_of_kentucky_prospect_ugonna_kingsley/

SCOUTING REPORTS:
https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-kentuckys-ugonna-onyenso
https://kuzeykl-41267.medium.com/ugonna-kingsley-onyenso-scouting-7a03fe1017b3
https://nbadraftroom.com/ugonna-kingsley-onyenso/
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Post#805 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:30 pm

dohboy_24 wrote:Those of you looking for someone to replace Christian Koloko need to look no further than Ugonna Kingsley Onyenso from Kentucky by way of Nigeria.

A true giant of Africa who could be mistaken for the 4th Antetokounmpo brother, he stands 7 feet tall, weighs 250 pounds and has a 7-5 wingspan.

After arriving in the US in January 2022, he played for Putnam Science Academy during the second semester before averaging 4 points, 5 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 18 minutes this season at Kentucky.

During a game in February of this year against Ole Miss, he recorded 10 blocks that he claims should have been one more during his post-presser interview, but he could be one of many high-risk, high-reward prospects who could be drafted much lower than his peers, yet ultimately outperform them after 2-3 more years of development.



"Per Sports-Reference.com, Onyenso's block percentage — a measure estimating the percentage of an opponent's two-point field-goal attempts blocked by a player while on the floor — of 15.9 in 2022-23 would have been the ninth-best season by a Division I player since the statistic started being tracked in 2009-10 had he played enough to qualify."

SOURCE: https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/kentucky/2024/04/16/ugonna-onyenso-nba-draft-2024-kentucky-basketball-roster-john-calipari/73014472007/

DOCUMENTARY:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/wx1s9g/documentary_of_kentucky_prospect_ugonna_kingsley/

SCOUTING REPORTS:
https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-kentuckys-ugonna-onyenso
https://kuzeykl-41267.medium.com/ugonna-kingsley-onyenso-scouting-7a03fe1017b3
https://nbadraftroom.com/ugonna-kingsley-onyenso/


I don want to replace Koloko I want to replace Gasol and Ibaka.
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Post#806 » by OAKLEY_2 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:34 pm

When you look at hybrid 3-4's or 2-3's or combo guards as free agents the pickings are slim. Then look at Centres. There are tons of them. Might think about using this draft to get bodies like Siakam, OG and Precious. I do not think we have the ability to play small. Nor the option.
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Post#807 » by dohboy_24 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:42 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:
I don want to replace Koloko I want to replace Gasol and Ibaka.


He doesn't play the same style of basketball nor have the same skillset as Gasol or Ibaka. Given his abilities and the former Raptors players he could emulate, Koloko would be the closest.
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Post#808 » by grant101 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:49 pm

dohboy_24 wrote:
OAKLEY_2 wrote:
I don want to replace Koloko I want to replace Gasol and Ibaka.


He doesn't play the same style of basketball nor have the same skillset as Gasol or Ibaka. Given his abilities and the former Raptors players he could emulate, Koloko would be the closest.


I don't mind him as a UDFA flyer, but he lacks what Koloko lacks: the ability to finish efficiently around the basket when it's not a putback or lob/easy assist. It's so frustrating to watch big men like this repeatedly smoke lay-ups. If someone can convince him to momentarily give up his dreams of being a stretch 5 and focus on getting stronger and studying folks like if Gafford' or Capela instead, he has all the potential to play in the league.
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Post#809 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:59 pm

Love this kid

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Post#810 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:12 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Love this kid

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How many undersized guards who can shoot but are average in athleticism have actually worked out well in the NBA? Not too many that I can think of but the G-League is full of those types of players.
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Post#811 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:19 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Love this kid

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How many undersized guards who can shoot but are average in athleticism have actually worked out well in the NBA? Not too many that I can think of but the G-League is full of those types of players.


Nobody will benefit more from Brunsons’s ascension than Reed.
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Post#812 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:21 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Love this kid

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How many undersized guards who can shoot but are average in athleticism have actually worked out well in the NBA? Not too many that I can think of but the G-League is full of those types of players.


he's a 6'3" PG with I'd say pretty decent athletiscm. Not undersized. Reed just knows how to play. Can run a pick and roll, can shoot from anywhere and has a high IQ. He's going to translate the question is 6th man or really good starter
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Post#813 » by DG88 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:00 pm

Devin Carter with the IND pick is another player I like as a two way PG.
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Post#814 » by Mark_83 » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:03 pm

So Webster said that while the team won't prioritize need at the draft they are looking for backup point guard, a wing defender, and a younger backup big.

Based on those categories:

Backup PGs
(Raps Pick)

Topic
Dillingham
Castle
Sheppard
(Pacers Pick)
Collier
Carter
McCain
Sears
(Detroit pick)
Kolek
Simpson
Nunez

Wing defender
(Raps Pick)

Risacher
Holland
Williams
Castle
(Pacers Pick)
Da Silva
Dunn
Salaun
McCullar
(Detroit pick)
Sallis
Adjinca
Edwards

Young big man
(Raps Pick)

Sarr
Clingan
Buzelis
(Pacers Pick)
Edey
Ware
Missi
Smith
(Detroit pick)
Holmes
Chomche
Yang
Ighodaro
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Post#815 » by CazOnReal » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:20 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Saying the G-League prospects have mostly been busts is simply not true. Jalen Green was on absolute tear for the last month of the season when HOU went on that run.

It's inconvenient for you and him that Green's career is longer than one month.
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Post#816 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 18, 2024 9:36 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Love this kid

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When he turns out being a bigger John Stockton, hopefully he's on our side. :nod:

6. Reed
17. Chomche
31. So many to choose from. Would it be crazy if DaSilva dropped to #31?
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Post#817 » by Spates » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:28 pm

Grab McCain ASAP and don't look back. Or Reed Sheppard if you're a believer, can't decide on this guy. Otherwise grab Nique Clifford with 31.

McCain reminds me of Brunson but with some sniping skills. Absolutely the Jamie Jaquez of this draft.
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Post#818 » by Thaddy » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:36 pm

What makes Buzelis better than Filipowski? Filipowski is the better shooter and has more size. Anything Buzelis needs to work on Filipowski could develop just as much.
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Post#819 » by mihaic » Thu Apr 18, 2024 10:56 pm

Thaddy wrote:What makes Buzelis better than Filipowski? Filipowski is the better shooter and has more size. Anything Buzelis needs to work on Filipowski could develop just as much.

I didn't watch Buzelis. But Flip at times, in some (not all) games I watched, looked like not involved/uninterested.

Perhaps it was just my perception, idk
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Post#820 » by aminiaturebuddha » Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:50 pm

Spates wrote:Grab McCain ASAP and don't look back. Or Reed Sheppard if you're a believer, can't decide on this guy. Otherwise grab Nique Clifford with 31.

McCain reminds me of Brunson but with some sniping skills. Absolutely the Jamie Jaquez of this draft.


I really like McCain as well. But I don't see him as a Jaime Jaquez type draft pick because the thing is, he only plays like a college veteran - but he's only a freshman! Jaquez was 22 entering this past year. McCain will only be 20.

But that's exactly the thing that stands out to me when I watch McCain. He just always looks like he knows what he's doing on the court. He's not a pure point guard, but I have no doubts about his ability to develop enough of those skills to be an excellent backup in the league.

And his shooting stroke is just so good and consistent that it'll definitely be a weapon at the next level. He's also fairly scrappy as a defender and everywhere on the court in general.

I think he's the 1st round PG least likely to bust because all of his good skills seem transferable and his weaknesses aren't serious enough to be dealbreakers.

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