2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #2 New York Knicks vs. #7 Philadelphia 76ers (NYK WINS 4-2)

[GeorgeSears]

Sixers take it in 6. Even with Embiid hobbled, they've built a solid team around him and he's still going to receive a lot of attention. If Randle was healthy, I think the Knicks could use his offense.

[GiannisAnte34]

would the 2024 Knicks be the best team Embiid has ever hypothetically won a series against in his career?

I think yes and that is kind of sad to think about

[eyeatoma]

would the 2024 Knicks be the best team Embiid has ever hypothetically won a series against in his career?

I think yes and that is kind of sad to think about

Technically it was the Heat last game, given that it was like a game 7 IMO, and the team had the jitters of a game 7, which they traditionally collapse in or get blown out.

After that yes, absolutely the Knicks team would be the best team the Sixers will have beat in the Embiid era.

[drekwins]

Put Embiid in the PnR each and every time down the court. Test that mobility and knee every possession.

[Hussien Fatal]

Maxey had below average efficiency without Embiid and he did it at high volume as well. That's not a recipe for success. If Embiid is healthy the Sixers should win this series. However, Maxey is not on Brunson's level and those two should not be compared with one another.

You acting as if Brunson is magic Johnson or Steph Curry! I’m not comparing Maxey to magic or Steph I’m comparing him to Brunson. If you think Brunson is on some level Maxey will never touch you’re mistaken. If Brunson is better than Maxey it’s by very little. Maxey is on Brunsons level and I expect him to be definitively better than Brunson in the near future.

In the future, sure. But aren’t we comparing them based on their performances this year? If we are then Brunson is better and it’s not up for debate.

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

[drekwins]

healthy Embiid vs. Knicks

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[bronxknicksfan1]

You acting as if Brunson is magic Johnson or Steph Curry! I’m not comparing Maxey to magic or Steph I’m comparing him to Brunson. If you think Brunson is on some level Maxey will never touch you’re mistaken. If Brunson is better than Maxey it’s by very little. Maxey is on Brunsons level and I expect him to be definitively better than Brunson in the near future.

In the future, sure. But aren’t we comparing them based on their performances this year? If we are then Brunson is better and it’s not up for debate.

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

[eyeatoma]

In the future, sure. But aren’t we comparing them based on their performances this year? If we are then Brunson is better and it’s not up for debate.

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

Dude dropped 3 50 bombs. That's not a top 35 player by any stretch of the imagination. That's tied for the most of any player this season. Sorry to burst your bubble.

[eyeatoma]

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He twisted his ankle in this game I believe.

[drekwins]

healthy Embiid vs. Knicks

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He twisted his ankle in this game I believe.

lol he played 36 minutes. -29 +/-, 10-23, 30pts, 10reb, 3blk, 6TOs

REBs - NYK 49, Philly 38
TOs - NYK 11, Philly 14

This is how NY wins. The Knicks got 8 more shots than Philly. Randle shot 1-11 with 4 turnovers this game too. Mitchell Robinson did not play. Brunson shot 11-20 with zero turnovers. iHart had 17, 6, 5 and 2blks w/ 1 turnover.

All in all, Philly has to play very clean ball in order to have a chance and they must rebound better than they have all year. The Knicks aregoing to swarm the glass and double Embiid from many different angles.

[eyeatoma]

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He twisted his ankle in this game I believe.

lol he played 36 minutes. -29 +/-, 10-23, 30pts, 10reb, 3blk, 6TOs

REBs - NYK 49, Philly 38
TOs - NYK 11, Philly 14

This is how NY wins. The Knicks got 8 more shots than Philly. Randle shot 1-11 with 4 turnovers this game too. Mitchell Robinson did not play. Brunson shot 11-20 with zero turnovers. iHart had 17, 6, 5 and 2blks w/ 1 turnover.

All in all, Philly has to play very clean ball in order to have a chance and they must rebound better than they have all year. The Knicks aregoing to swarm the glass and double Embiid from many different angles.

Clearly you don't watch Embiid. He usually plays through the injury, and often sits out the next game. Been the Sixers MO for years.

Also, my bad, it wasn't his ankle, it was his knee... He then proceeded to miss the next 3 games like I said. Take the L bruh...

https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/401585111

Joel Embiid twisted his left knee early — “I'll be fine,” he said — and had 30 points and 10 rebounds for the Sixers. Embiid extended his franchise records to 16 straight 30-point games and 15 in a row of 30 points and 10 rebounds.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/PHI/philadelphia-76ers/schedule/regular/

[bronxknicksfan1]

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

Dude dropped 3 50 bombs. That's not a top 35 player by any stretch of the imagination. That's tied for the most of any player this season. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Jokic
Giannis
Luka
Embiid
SGA
Tatum
Steph
KD
Booker
Brunson
LeBron
AD
Kawhi
PG
Donovan Mitchell
Ant Edwards
Wemby
Hali
Sabonis
Fox

That’s 20 right there. More can be named. He’s not there yet.

[Last Guardian]

Tough one. I think NY will frustrate them. They have a level of defense they can get to that is very annoying to play against. Sixers looked rough against a small Miami team. They are still talented though, so a couple games they should get. NYK in 6

[eyeatoma]

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

Dude dropped 3 50 bombs. That's not a top 35 player by any stretch of the imagination. That's tied for the most of any player this season. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Jokic
Giannis
Luka
Embiid
SGA
Tatum
Steph
KD
Booker
Brunson
LeBron
AD
Kawhi
PG
Donovan Mitchell
Ant Edwards
Wemby
Hali
Sabonis
Fox

That’s 20 right there. More can be named. He’s not there yet.

He's better than Sabonis, Fox, and debateably Edwards...

[bronxknicksfan1]

Dude dropped 3 50 bombs. That's not a top 35 player by any stretch of the imagination. That's tied for the most of any player this season. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Jokic
Giannis
Luka
Embiid
SGA
Tatum
Steph
KD
Booker
Brunson
LeBron
AD
Kawhi
PG
Donovan Mitchell
Ant Edwards
Wemby
Hali
Sabonis
Fox

That’s 20 right there. More can be named. He’s not there yet.

He's better than Sabonis, Fox, and debateably Edwards...

and that’s all I needed to know

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

He twisted his ankle in this game I believe.

lol he played 36 minutes. -29 +/-, 10-23, 30pts, 10reb, 3blk, 6TOs

REBs - NYK 49, Philly 38
TOs - NYK 11, Philly 14

This is how NY wins. The Knicks got 8 more shots than Philly. Randle shot 1-11 with 4 turnovers this game too. Mitchell Robinson did not play. Brunson shot 11-20 with zero turnovers. iHart had 17, 6, 5 and 2blks w/ 1 turnover.

All in all, Philly has to play very clean ball in order to have a chance and they must rebound better than they have all year. The Knicks aregoing to swarm the glass and double Embiid from many different angles.

Clearly you don't watch Embiid. He usually plays through the injury, and often sits out the next game. Been the Sixers MO for years.

Also, my bad, it wasn't his ankle, it was his knee... He then proceeded to miss the next 3 games like I said. Take the L bruh...

https://www.espn.com/nba/recap/_/gameId/401585111

Joel Embiid twisted his left knee early — “I'll be fine,” he said — and had 30 points and 10 rebounds for the Sixers. Embiid extended his franchise records to 16 straight 30-point games and 15 in a row of 30 points and 10 rebounds.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/PHI/philadelphia-76ers/schedule/regular/

Yeah he actually bangs knees with Randle I think in the second quarter of this one. Might have been the third. I know the Knicks blew our doors off that night in a regular season game which means very little. The fact that people are pointing this out to expose Embiid is rather stupid. If they're going to do this, then they need to be reminded that Embiid is 16-3 against them all time (which would be equally as witless as this is).

This was however the beginning to the whole injury run for Embiid this year. That collision with Randle has been vastly overlooked, but I do remember it happening and it's what got all this started. His knee was never right after that and then he was finished off by Kuminga a few weeks later. Of course it was inadvertent, but hopefully, he gets it right in this series against NY.

I like Knicks basketball so I'm not going to sit here and trash New York. This is the playoffs though. They have players that are probably going to piss me off. I love Josh Hart, but I for one can see him getting under the skin of Philly fans in this one. In fact, if we ignore the Nova connection, I can see DiVincenzo doing the same. Love both the guys, but they will be temporary enemies for the next two weeks. That doesn't mean I don't like them though. They are one of my favorite teams not from Philly in this league. This is going to be a fun series for sure! Can't wait to get this going! NY vrs Philly! I was 8 the last time this happened! Two badass cities going at it!

[Los_29]

Maxey had below average efficiency without Embiid and he did it at high volume as well. That's not a recipe for success. If Embiid is healthy the Sixers should win this series. However, Maxey is not on Brunson's level and those two should not be compared with one another.

You acting as if Brunson is magic Johnson or Steph Curry! I’m not comparing Maxey to magic or Steph I’m comparing him to Brunson. If you think Brunson is on some level Maxey will never touch you’re mistaken. If Brunson is better than Maxey it’s by very little. Maxey is on Brunsons level and I expect him to be definitively better than Brunson shortly.

You're discussing about Maxey with the "Achiuwa has more potential than Maxey" guy, i would not waste my time

Not sure what’s so controversial about that. I never said it was likely that Achiuwa hit on his potential, just that if he did he would be better. Never imagined Maxey would get this good though. But even then, the team was bad when Maxey was the #1 option. Maxey really does need an elite 1st option to play with. Nothing wrong with that though. Still a great player.

It is funny how you’re still so defensive about that. That was two years ago. Time to move on.

[Hussien Fatal]

In the future, sure. But aren’t we comparing them based on their performances this year? If we are then Brunson is better and it’s not up for debate.

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

Ok I would love to see you attempt to name 35 players better than Maxey currently.

[Los_29]

You acting as if Brunson is magic Johnson or Steph Curry! I’m not comparing Maxey to magic or Steph I’m comparing him to Brunson. If you think Brunson is on some level Maxey will never touch you’re mistaken. If Brunson is better than Maxey it’s by very little. Maxey is on Brunsons level and I expect him to be definitively better than Brunson in the near future.

In the future, sure. But aren’t we comparing them based on their performances this year? If we are then Brunson is better and it’s not up for debate.

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

Is he a top 20 player?

[bronxknicksfan1]

I actually said Brunson had the better season I just don’t believe there is much of a gap between the two. We really had people saying (in this thread) Maxey wasn’t even a top 20 player which is ridiculous.

…he’s not a top 20 player. He’s closer to top 35 than top 20.

And there’s a decent gap between Brunson and Maxey right now.

If you believe the potential is there, that’s a different conversation. But as of right now, he’s not there.

Ok I would love to see you attempt to name 35 players better than Maxey currently.

On top of the 20 I already named…

Zion
Ingram
Jaylen Brown
Kyrie
Jamal Murray
Ja Morant

It starts getting debatable around here…

Dame
KAT
Paolo
Randle
Trae Young
Scottie Barnes
Siakam
Lauri

You could put Maxey anywhere in this range. Could take any of these players over him. You could pick him over them if you choose. But again, top 35 range.