Miami Heat Regular Season Thread 6.0 -Everything's Gonna Be All Wright

[SoFlaKingReal]

Should the Heat have moved Bam for Dame? Thats what it wouldve taken.

Its so painful watching this team try to score. smh.

[AirP.]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Should the Heat have moved Bam for Dame? Thats what it wouldve taken.

Its so painful watching this team try to score. smh.

I mean the bucks got him for Jrue and a 1st, the Bam stuff was just Cronin being petty. Bam has far more value than what they agreed to

[MorbidHEAT]

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Jaylen Brown soft like baby shiet...

[HeatingUp3]

Brown is soft and all showing off. Dude surley making up for something.

[Pokuokic]

Haliburton had a strong start to the season and has now become overrated as fuxk

High pace gimmick ball and inflated stats, he's basically what Brogdan was for Indiana when healthy with WAY WORSE DEFENSE.

[MartyConlonJr]

This isn't really a positive or anything, but every home team in the playoffs is up 1-0. We are no worse off than any other road team, and they always say it's not a series till the home team loses.

Of course - we are a better road team than a home team. But maybe we get Rozier back game 3 and have a little more offensive fire-power.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Had to go look it up because I’ve noticed this season the second Bam sits KP just has a field day on whoever is guarding him. He had 2 points on 1-4 shooting against Bam, 16 points on 6-9 shooting against everyone else.

For the regular season he had 13 points against Bam on 4-9 shooting, 48 points against everyone else on 16-25 shooting.

We have our answer for Kristaps but then what to do with Tatum? I think we could match Jovic up on him as his size may cause issues. Tatum was 0-5 shooting against Jovic, 1-4 against Bam so both did a great job slowing him down but he also wasn’t really in attack mode so maybe he cooks Jovic otherwise. If those 2 can hold them in check we need Martin Highsmith and Wright to contain Brown and their shooters. We can’t use zone much next game. They torched it, the gameplan was horrible honestly.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[IceColdCubano]

Had to go look it up because I’ve noticed this season the second Bam sits KP just has a field day on whoever is guarding him. He had 2 points on 1-4 shooting against Bam, 16 points on 6-9 shooting against everyone else.

For the regular season he had 13 points against Bam on 4-9 shooting, 48 points against everyone else on 16-25 shooting.

We have our answer for Kristaps but then what to do with Tatum? I think we could match Jovic up on him as his size may cause issues. Tatum was 0-5 shooting against Jovic, 1-4 against Bam so both did a great job slowing him down but he also wasn’t really in attack mode so maybe he cooks Jovic otherwise. If those 2 can hold them in check we need Martin Highsmith and Wright to contain Brown and their shooters. We can’t use zone much next game. They torched it, the gameplan was horrible honestly.

It's quate the conundrum that Spo will have to figure out. Problem is that Spo wants to give his defensive wings extended time on the floor, therefore Jovic, only plays limited minutes, hes a starter getting bench minutes essentially. Its how Spo find his minutes for all of Duncan, Highsmith, Caleb, JJJ, & Wright extended minutes in the rotation by using the PF as pivot position to slide the bigger wings into like Highsmith, Duncan, JJJ when all those guys share the floor. He is trying to keep 2 capable wing defenders on the floor at all times besides Bam. When he heads to the bench when Love is in he has generally 3 good defenders at the wings with Wright inserted, along side Highsmith, Caleb/JJJ.

Our interior defense did great, problem was with corner threes being spammed because we sent help too early, and forced to overcommit and rotation on the third guy always coming in late because the corners where left way too open. I think we need to let our guys finish the 1v1 and force a double later in the shot clock so that they aren't committing 3 passes forcing us to scramble, forcing them to commit only 2 passes out of a double will limit how comfortable they are at shooting.

KP is the one thing we knew coming into the series that was going to be really hard for us, because a 7'-2" shooter is a lot to handle when he is hitting his jumpers. I saw both Jovic and Bam deny him the entry really well, and not get comfortable inside, however whenever he found himself on a switch with anybody else not named Bam/Jovic he was shooting practice shots. Boston coach made a consorted effort to stagger KP's minutes as best as possible with Bam off the floor after the first quarter, very smart of him.

It does really suck that they were able to basically upgrade at the point guard with an ever better defender, poised player in tough moments, and a center that was not allergic to scoring and provide spacing as well. In previous series Bam was able to float a bit more and switch on them far more aggressive because their center wasn't a threat to score or shoot open jumpers this now kind of limits Bam's a bit from extending his area on the floor he can float to help. Also them having somebody like Jrue who is bigger and can defend above his weight and height means either JB or Tatum are sitting comfortably without using up energy on the defensive side giving them ample energy just to focus scoring.

I don't know what adjustments I could even think off that would help, its like pick your poison at the moment that Spo will have to decide which one is the lesser of the evils.

[RexBoyWonder]

In hindsight - The path to improving was a risky one - and we didn't take it.

Guys like Porzingis, Beal, Dame, Harden - all have their warts and risks - but IF they hit (stay healthy, buy in, fit etc.) - your upside as a team really goes way higher.

We played it safe : kept Herro and Duncan and Martin and didn't pay much to get Rozier - and it wasn't enough. We didn't go all in, but we're not 100% building for the future either (by wining the play-in game and dropping a few spots in the Draft).

It is what it is. Injuries were really the final nail in an already made coffin.

We're in a tough spot because we're lacking the most important piece in a great team - a Healthy, in prime, offensive star.

[Beenie]

Should the Heat have moved Bam for Dame? Thats what it wouldve taken.

Its so painful watching this team try to score. smh.

No brainer for me, resounding yes.

[Beenie]

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Someone on Twitter astutely pointed out Jrue shoving Martin into Tatum.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[AirP.]

In hindsight - The path to improving was a risky one - and we didn't take it.

Guys like Porzingis, Beal, Dame, Harden - all have their warts and risks - but IF they hit (stay healthy, buy in, fit etc.) - your upside as a team really goes way higher.

We played it safe : kept Herro and Duncan and Martin and didn't pay much to get Rozier - and it wasn't enough. We didn't go all in, but we're not 100% building for the future either (by wining the play-in game and dropping a few spots in the Draft).

It is what it is. Injuries were really the final nail in an already made coffin.

We're in a tough spot because we're lacking the most important piece in a great team - a Healthy, in prime, offensive star.

I believe with Jovic and Jaquez Jr's potential, they're proving how good they are at a playoff level vs a high-level opponent where they should be raising their stock by looking solid in this first round, they look like they could be good long-term starters for Miami or someone else if they have to be packaged for a player. Herro, although he looks overwhelmed at PG could be looked at as a nice young off ball SG. I think everyone is getting to learn a lot more about the younger guys with this 1st round and will continue to learn things about them the next 3 or 4 games (depending on if Miami can steal one).

I don't think Mitchell has much chance of landing in Miami unless he demands Miami (saying he won't resign with anyone else to keep the bids lower) but maybe some other higher level older guys shake loose this summer. With the new rules, Miami cannot take more money back in a trade so that is a small issue that limits some of what they can do this summer.

[IceColdCubano]

In hindsight - The path to improving was a risky one - and we didn't take it.

Guys like Porzingis, Beal, Dame, Harden - all have their warts and risks - but IF they hit (stay healthy, buy in, fit etc.) - your upside as a team really goes way higher.

We played it safe : kept Herro and Duncan and Martin and didn't pay much to get Rozier - and it wasn't enough. We didn't go all in, but we're not 100% building for the future either (by wining the play-in game and dropping a few spots in the Draft).

It is what it is. Injuries were really the final nail in an already made coffin.

We're in a tough spot because we're lacking the most important piece in a great team - a Healthy, in prime, offensive star.

I believe with Jovic and Jaquez Jr's potential, they're proving how good they are at a playoff level vs a high-level opponent where they should be raising their stock by looking solid in this first round, they look like they could be good long-term starters for Miami or someone else if they have to be packaged for a player. Herro, although he looks overwhelmed at PG could be looked at as a nice young off ball SG.

I don't think Mitchell has much chance of landing in Miami unless he demands Miami (saying he won't resign with anyone else) but maybe some other higher level older guys shake loose this summer. With the new rules, Miami cannot take more money back in a trade so that is a small issue that limits some of what they can do this summer.

Jaquez and Jovic are both 2-3 years away from being primed at being really good supporting players borderline stars if they improve drastically. I don't think theyll both hit in the star department but I think one of them will become quality role player/starter material and one could become a potential borderline low-esque star. With Bam in tow, this could look very nice in the next couple years, as long as we have the 1A alpha scorer here, that's the guy missing here. It looks like it works out perfectly with Jimmy expiring, one build heading into another. After this draft upcoming we have no first round selections for a couple years, so keeping as Jovic/JJJ is exponentially important, as essentially losing them means that your heading into dark twilight years 2025-2026 of no first round picks and Jimmy bad contract tail end. Roziers/Duncan's contract also coincides with that timeline with them expiring as well.

I could see our FO taking a step back to take a step forward it will suck for everyone here because we don't make a big swing in the next 2 years, just small gap fillers to stay competitive while we focus on the next iteration of the build. This offseason will be very telling on what the direction of the team is, not making the splash tells me where we are heading in the upcoming build.

[eddieheatfan]

In hindsight - The path to improving was a risky one - and we didn't take it.

Guys like Porzingis, Beal, Dame, Harden - all have their warts and risks - but IF they hit (stay healthy, buy in, fit etc.) - your upside as a team really goes way higher.

We played it safe : kept Herro and Duncan and Martin and didn't pay much to get Rozier - and it wasn't enough. We didn't go all in, but we're not 100% building for the future either (by wining the play-in game and dropping a few spots in the Draft).

It is what it is. Injuries were really the final nail in an already made coffin.

We're in a tough spot because we're lacking the most important piece in a great team - a Healthy, in prime, offensive star.

I believe with Jovic and Jaquez Jr's potential, they're proving how good they are at a playoff level vs a high-level opponent where they should be raising their stock by looking solid in this first round, they look like they could be good long-term starters for Miami or someone else if they have to be packaged for a player. Herro, although he looks overwhelmed at PG could be looked at as a nice young off ball SG.

I don't think Mitchell has much chance of landing in Miami unless he demands Miami (saying he won't resign with anyone else) but maybe some other higher level older guys shake loose this summer. With the new rules, Miami cannot take more money back in a trade so that is a small issue that limits some of what they can do this summer.

Jaquez and Jovic are both 2-3 years away from being primed at being really good supporting players borderline stars if they improve drastically. I don't think theyll both hit in the star department but I think one of them will become quality role player/starter material and one could become a potential borderline low-esque star. With Bam in tow, this could look very nice in the next couple years, as long as we have the 1A alpha scorer here, that's the guy missing here. It looks like it works out perfectly with Jimmy expiring, one build heading into another. After this draft upcoming we have no first round selections for a couple years, so keeping as Jovic/JJJ is exponentially important, as essentially losing them means that your heading into dark twilight years 2025-2026 of no first round picks and Jimmy bad contract tail end. Roziers/Duncan's contract also coincides with that timeline with them expiring as well.

I could see our FO taking a step back to take a step forward it will suck for everyone here because we don't make a big swing in the next 2 years, just small gap fillers to stay competitive while we focus on the next iteration of the build. This offseason will be very telling on what the direction of the team is, not making the splash tells me where we are heading in the upcoming build.

i expect more gleaguers and what have you? maybe just maybe we get mitchell but i think that the heat will have to part with a few players before upgrading for real. i'm sorry but jimmy 's time with the heat is up. the heat needs to look for a younger star player in the offseason. but i wont be holding my breath on that one seen the recent past since cabron left

[AirP.]

I believe with Jovic and Jaquez Jr's potential, they're proving how good they are at a playoff level vs a high-level opponent where they should be raising their stock by looking solid in this first round, they look like they could be good long-term starters for Miami or someone else if they have to be packaged for a player. Herro, although he looks overwhelmed at PG could be looked at as a nice young off ball SG.

I don't think Mitchell has much chance of landing in Miami unless he demands Miami (saying he won't resign with anyone else) but maybe some other higher level older guys shake loose this summer. With the new rules, Miami cannot take more money back in a trade so that is a small issue that limits some of what they can do this summer.

Jaquez and Jovic are both 2-3 years away from being primed at being really good supporting players borderline stars if they improve drastically. I don't think theyll both hit in the star department but I think one of them will become quality role player/starter material and one could become a potential borderline low-esque star. With Bam in tow, this could look very nice in the next couple years, as long as we have the 1A alpha scorer here, that's the guy missing here. It looks like it works out perfectly with Jimmy expiring, one build heading into another. After this draft upcoming we have no first round selections for a couple years, so keeping as Jovic/JJJ is exponentially important, as essentially losing them means that your heading into dark twilight years 2025-2026 of no first round picks and Jimmy bad contract tail end. Roziers/Duncan's contract also coincides with that timeline with them expiring as well.

I could see our FO taking a step back to take a step forward it will suck for everyone here because we don't make a big swing in the next 2 years, just small gap fillers to stay competitive while we focus on the next iteration of the build. This offseason will be very telling on what the direction of the team is, not making the splash tells me where we are heading in the upcoming build.

i expect more gleaguers and what have you? maybe just maybe we get mitchell but i think that the heat will have to part with a few players before upgrading for real. i'm sorry but jimmy 's time with the heat is up. the heat needs to look for a younger star player in the offseason. but i wont be holding my breath on that one seen the recent past since cabron left

Not sure you've noticed but Miami's been looking for a star since Butler's been here, it's the reason they didn't keep that first finals team together to go after Giannis with cap space and the last 2 seasons, Miami's went after KD and Lillard which they didn't have enough assets to get, so if you don't have enough assets for an older star it probably means you don't have enough for a more expensive younger star. Everyone needs to understand there's a reality of the situation, EVERYONE WANTS A YOUNGER STAR and just getting a draft pick near the top of the draft doesn't mean you'll get one, Golden State (who people thought could do no wrong)... who had 1 down year and a trade that gave them a very high pick had 3 top picks, a #2, #7 and #14 after 3+ years none of those players are regular starters although Kuminga might finally be getting there and the #2 pick got moved for nearly nothing.

What I've noticed about basically all these team boards is that a portion of the fanbase isn't happy unless they're dominating or have a potential star and couldn't care less about anyone else on the team, it doesn't work that way, young stars don't fall in your lap nor do teams always draft correctly like Miami passing on Maxey just a 3 years ago. It's like fans don't remember what Miami basketball was like before Butler forced his way to Miami, Miami once again overpaid for its players, were stuck with some bad contracts and were cheering on Dion Waiters and so were also so happy with the franchise because of them experimenting with PG Winslow.

Even if Miami makes no moves at all this summer (which I'm expecting they will try), Miami should have a better team and a starting 5 that any one of them could drop 20 points on any given evening, something they've not had since Butler's been in Miami. The FO will continue to look to acquire another star level player and hopefully they don't move Jaquez Jr to get it, he possibly could end up being 80-90% of what Butler's peak is/was.

Miami doesn't have a Wemby, A.Edwards, Mitchell, Doncic or even and up and comer in Maxey (Miami said no to him) but they do have a FO that is looking for the next gamechanger, maybe now they won't just set their sights on the top player available but be willing to trade for just a top-level player or even trading up in a draft if they can identify a player they think they can mold into a franchise guy. Most teams have to take a chance, Michell was the 13th pick by Denver and Utah traded for his rights, Luka went 3rd to Atlanta and Dallas trade for his rights, Giannis went 15th while Cleveland took Anthony Bennett #1, also that draft The Process Philadelphia 76ers traded for the rights of #6 N.Noel and also drafted ROTY MCW at #11 all with Giannis and his potential still on the board, who knew he'd grow a couple more inches?

Miami has some younger talent now that can develop and learn from the older guys and Miami also has a FO that understands where they currently are, have got some confirmation that the guy they banked on being better than D.Booker might not be that and with that, they can move forward making moves to strengthen the roster.

You'd think a person like myself who's been following Butler would want him moved since only a team that is close to being a contender would trade for him but I'm not, I don't think Miami's all that far away from having a strong enough team to compete for a championship and that's all you can ask for if you don't have a MVP level candidate, and even with that level of player doesn't mean you're a championship level team, ask Philly and Dallas.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Celtics shot 49 3s, 42 of them were either open (21) or wide open (21). That is fuxking disgusting

[3ammy3uck3ts]

And I better not see anyone show help to Bam defensively at all next game, stay on your man and leave Bam on an island. If they can consistently score on the best defender in the world then tip your cap but giving their 3 points specialist wide open 3 after wide open 3 is a WILD decision