2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #4 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. #5 Orlando Magic (CLE WINS 4-3)

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Who wins?

Cavs in 4
6
2%
Cavs in 5
41
14%
Cavs in 6
69
24%
Cavs in 7
39
14%
Magic in 4
7
2%
Magic in 5
7
2%
Magic in 6
72
25%
Magic in 7
42
15%
 
Total votes: 283

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Post#1061 » by jkvonny » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:14 pm

Magic has to find an offense of any sort. They have been doing good defensively (their strength). but pretty stagnant on offense so far. Defense has kept them in the games so far, even holding the Cavs under 100 pnts.
They are at home now in Orlando, so that should help. Get their offense back in gear.

So far, in these playoffs, the Magic are the only team, yet to have a lead in any of the games. :o
Trailed wire to wire in both games as of now.
Get it together, Orlando! Good luck tonite, this week.
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Post#1062 » by azcatz11 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:49 pm

jkvonny wrote:Magic has to find an offense of any sort. They have been doing good defensively (their strength). but pretty stagnant on offense so far. Defense has kept them in the games so far, even holding the Cavs under 100 pnts.
They are at home now in Orlando, so that should help. Get their offense back in gear.

So far, in these playoffs, the Magic are the only team, yet to have a lead in any of the games. :o
Trailed wire to wire in both games as of now.
Get it together, Orlando! Good luck tonite, this week.


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Post#1063 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:53 pm

yoyoboy wrote:The Garland excuse making is laughable. The standards seem to just keep dropping for the kid. Are we talking about an All-Star/max contract player/top 5 pick? Because the way some of you Cavs fans talk about him, you seem content with him playing like a low-level starter and expect nothing more just because the Cavs are winning on the back of their DEFENSE - not their struggling offense (both in these playoffs and the regular season). A defense he has little to do with.

I mean he’s averaging close to as many turnovers (4.5) as he is field goal makes (5.5). He’s aimlessly pounding the life out of the ball at times without creating any real offensive advantages. No one is asking him to “hijack the offense” and freeze out the bigs. He simply needs to stop throwing the ball away so much, be quicker to make decisions, and be more of a threat to score. Especially down the stretches of games, he’s just been terrible.

I really don’t care to hear excuses about him coming back from injury because that’s the story of his whole career. He’s always in an out of the lineup with little injuries here and there.
Bruh, it is literally everyone on the Cavs... Hence probably because they're playing a top 3 defense lol

Through 2 games...

Mitchell 3.5 APG vs 3.5 TOPG
Garland 6.0 APG vs 4.5 TOPG
Strus 2.5 APG vs 2.5 TOPG
Mobley 1.5 APG vs 2.0 TOPG
LeVert 1.5 APG vs 1.0 TOPG
Okoro 0.5 APG vs 1.0 TOPG

Allen is the only player with a good assist to turnover ratio so far. We're not playing the 24th ranked Pacers defense here, we're playing arguably the best defense in the league.
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Re: 2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #4 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. #5 Orlando Magic (CLE leads 2-0) 

Post#1064 » by Dirk » Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:55 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
jkvonny wrote:Magic has to find an offense of any sort. They have been doing good defensively (their strength). but pretty stagnant on offense so far. Defense has kept them in the games so far, even holding the Cavs under 100 pnts.
They are at home now in Orlando, so that should help. Get their offense back in gear.

So far, in these playoffs, the Magic are the only team, yet to have a lead in any of the games. :o
Trailed wire to wire in both games as of now.
Get it together, Orlando! Good luck tonite, this week.


They have to win this game


They do, check this Orlando fan...

If the magic don't come out and win this game tnite against this nothing special cavs squad, that is a *very concerning* sign for
what this team may be.

Going 'all in' on a core of Paulo/Franz/suggs(?) with some tweaks and locking yourself into a core of that going forward? If they go down 0-3(and looking horrible doing it) to this cavs team? Yeeesh.....thats like putting a ton of money into a 2017 chevy cavalier.....

I mean I'm already pretty convinced the ceiling on a Paolo/Franz/Suggs core is lower than the cloth headliner in an 89' Cadillac Deville.......but going down 0-3 to this cavs pretty much means I'm not even sure the most optimistic sunshine pumper could really push that as a good strategy.
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Post#1065 » by azcatz11 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:06 pm

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jkvonny wrote:Magic has to find an offense of any sort. They have been doing good defensively (their strength). but pretty stagnant on offense so far. Defense has kept them in the games so far, even holding the Cavs under 100 pnts.
They are at home now in Orlando, so that should help. Get their offense back in gear.

So far, in these playoffs, the Magic are the only team, yet to have a lead in any of the games. :o
Trailed wire to wire in both games as of now.
Get it together, Orlando! Good luck tonite, this week.


They have to win this game


They do, check this Orlando fan...

If the magic don't come out and win this game tnite against this nothing special cavs squad, that is a *very concerning* sign for
what this team may be.

Going 'all in' on a core of Paulo/Franz/suggs(?) with some tweaks and locking yourself into a core of that going forward? If they go down 0-3(and looking horrible doing it) to this cavs team? Yeeesh.....thats like putting a ton of money into a 2017 chevy cavalier.....

I mean I'm already pretty convinced the ceiling on a Paolo/Franz/Suggs core is lower than the cloth headliner in an 89' Cadillac Deville.......but going down 0-3 to this cavs pretty much means I'm not even sure the most optimistic sunshine pumper could really push that as a good strategy.


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Post#1066 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:08 pm

They’re going with Carter to start? I’m not sure how I feel about that for Orlando.
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Post#1067 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:09 pm

WCJ back starting for the Magic at 5, which makes sense.
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Post#1068 » by Dirk » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:09 pm

azcatz11 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
They have to win this game


They do, check this Orlando fan...

If the magic don't come out and win this game tnite against this nothing special cavs squad, that is a *very concerning* sign for
what this team may be.

Going 'all in' on a core of Paulo/Franz/suggs(?) with some tweaks and locking yourself into a core of that going forward? If they go down 0-3(and looking horrible doing it) to this cavs team? Yeeesh.....thats like putting a ton of money into a 2017 chevy cavalier.....

I mean I'm already pretty convinced the ceiling on a Paolo/Franz/Suggs core is lower than the cloth headliner in an 89' Cadillac Deville.......but going down 0-3 to this cavs pretty much means I'm not even sure the most optimistic sunshine pumper could really push that as a good strategy.


I'll be bouncing between the games and the NFL draft


jkvonny wants to know who the Texans should pick?
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Post#1069 » by azcatz11 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:11 pm

Dirk wrote:
azcatz11 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
They do, check this Orlando fan...



I'll be bouncing between the games and the NFL draft


jkvonny wants to know who the Texans should pick?


They went all in last year so don't have a FRP ths year...I would be drafting a WR to give Stroud some help

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Post#1070 » by 2weekswithpay » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:12 pm

Same issue with the Magic. Can't make a shot and Paolo has missed a few open ones.
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Post#1071 » by BigDan245 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:12 pm

Orlando cannot possibly be serious right now
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Post#1072 » by Iwasawitness » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:12 pm

Mobley won’t make all defense due to not playing enough games, but he’s definitely one of the best defenders in the league.
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Post#1073 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:12 pm

Man, that's so tough. WCJ beats Allen off the dribble just to get it stuffed down his throat by Mobley.
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Post#1074 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:14 pm

Gary Harris has turned into one horrendous shooter my lord.
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Post#1075 » by BigDan245 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:15 pm

Orlando's saving grace tonight is rebounding
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Post#1076 » by thelead » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:16 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Gary Harris has turned into one horrendous shooter my lord.

Imagine if we just replace him with someone like Monk or KCP :lol:
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Post#1077 » by yoyoboy » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:18 pm

Outside of a couple Mobley contests, the defensive/rebounding effort has been terrible so far. We’re fortunate Orlando has missed so many wide open looks.
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Post#1078 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:18 pm

thelead wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:Gary Harris has turned into one horrendous shooter my lord.

Imagine if we just replace him with someone like Monk or KCP :lol:


KCP would be a godsend. Championship experience and the defense would even improve.
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Post#1079 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:19 pm

That shot by Paolo. Circus shot.
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Post#1080 » by azcatz11 » Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:19 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:Gary Harris has turned into one horrendous shooter my lord.


He's one of those guys you think is like 35 but he's not even 30 yet
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