2024 NBA Playoffs - East 1st Round: #4 Cleveland Cavaliers vs. #5 Orlando Magic (CLE WINS 4-3)

Wingy · Post #2621 » by **Wingy** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:36 am

Funcrusher wrote:Man, who the hell is Mitchell supposed to pass too?

His team made the playoffs before he arrived. Garland made the all star team. That squad won only 4 fewer games than this year's team, and 7 fewer than last year’s team. Strus has experience starting in the Finals, so not like a star should be scared to kick it to him for an open shot.

Don’t act like Mitchell is some kind of Jordan or Lebron that saved this team from the 20 win doldrums.

You’d have people to pass to if you…you know, passed to people. Basically no one plays well when they never touch the ball.

Creativetran · Post #2622 » by **Creativetran** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:39 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:The good guys won. Yeah Boston will stomp both teams, but the more fun matchup will be against Orlando.

Only if Porzingis is out the whole series, If he’s playing, then it’s a sweep or close close to it. Otherwise, the magic match up pretty well against Boston

Chokic · Post #2623 » by **Chokic** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:44 am

Mitchell is a dwade caliber you don't trade that kind of player to prioritize mobleys development lol. I'm high on Garland but his game doesn't mesh well w/ mitchell as he needs the ball in his hand alot to really be effective.

JujitsuFlip · Post #2624 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:45 am

Chokic wrote:Mitchell is a dwade caliber you don't trade that kind of player to prioritize mobleys development lol. I'm high on Garland but his game doesn't mesh well w/ mitchell as he needs the ball in his hand alot to really be effective.

If Mitchell doesn't extend this summer, for the 2nd summer in a row, you 100% trade him.

DowJones · Post #2625 » by **DowJones** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:48 am

Banchero really does remind me of Melo. He can score on all 3 levels.

Post #2626 » by **jbk1234** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:48 am

Allen needs to play on Sunday.

DowJones · Post #2627 » by **DowJones** » Sat May 4, 2024 2:48 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Chokic wrote:Mitchell is a dwade caliber you don't trade that kind of player to prioritize mobleys development lol. I'm high on Garland but his game doesn't mesh well w/ mitchell as he needs the ball in his hand alot to really be effective.
If Mitchell doesn't extend this summer, for the 2nd summer in a row, you 100% trade him.

Yeah, you obviously do what you can to retain him, but you look to move him if he refuses to extend.

Rainwater · Post #2628 » by **Rainwater** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:03 am

Chokic wrote:Mitchell is a dwade caliber you don't trade that kind of player to prioritize mobleys development lol. I'm high on Garland but his game doesn't mesh well w/ mitchell as he needs the ball in his hand alot to really be effective.

Did you just call Mitchell Dwade Caliber? Dwade is arguably top 3 SG of all time. If Mitchell was Dwade caliber he would have won a title in Utah. You are either overrating Mitchell or have never seen Dwade play.

basketballRob · Post #2629 » by **basketballRob** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:06 am

Add Paul George to the Magic next season, and they could contend.

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Creativetran · Post #2630 » by **Creativetran** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:11 am

ChipotleWest wrote:What if Mitchell went to Orlando? They'll have the cap space.

The 3 teams with cap space that are not lottery teams are Magic, Sixers, Thunder. I could see all being interested in him.

No way Thunder would want to tie up all that money on him

toooskies · Post #2631 » by **toooskies** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:14 am

bmurph128 wrote:
Vampirate wrote:Cavs fans may not want to hear this but for Mobley's own personal development, it might be best if Donovan Mitchel leaves.

If Cav fans are against that idea then you must not think his ceiling is really high.

His ceiling isnt that high. Garland is the perfect PG for Mobley and we've seen little evolution from him offensively the last few years relative to his potential.

He's not built for consistent playoff basketball. He couldn't screen Jalen Suggs and got knocked down him. Needs to add a ton of muscle and develop a better offensive game

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Lunartic · Post #2632 » by **Lunartic** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:14 am

Mitchell scored a lot but part of the game is getting your guys easy buckets to spread the ORL defenders. He just bum rushed into the paint for shots.

1 dude scoring 50 on high efficiency is great

3 dudes giving you 15+ on high efficiency is better

Every single possession, the ORL defenders knew they could slack off on Cavs shooters as Mitchell wanted to score everything.

Chokic · Post #2633 » by **Chokic** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:22 am

Rainwater wrote:
Chokic wrote:Mitchell is a dwade caliber you don't trade that kind of player to prioritize mobleys development lol. I'm high on Garland but his game doesn't mesh well w/ mitchell as he needs the ball in his hand alot to really be effective.

Did you just call Mitchell Dwade Caliber? Dwade is arguably the 3 best SG of all time. If Mitchell was Dwade caliber he would have won a title in Utah. You are either overrating Mitchell or have never seen Dwade play.

Wade would not have won a title with utah lol. I consider mitchell the best sg in the league currently ahead of edwards and booker.

toooskies · Post #2634 » by **toooskies** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:22 am

jbk1234 wrote:Allen needs to play on Sunday.

If he plays he'll be limited. Rib injuries don't just go away. It's a problem. Mobley's ankle is a problem. Mitchell's knee is a problem. Wade's knee is a problem.

Now it's down to one game where all the role players are in a shooting slump and somehow Garland is the healthiest guy on the court...

Rainwater · Post #2635 » by **Rainwater** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:23 am

Yeah, the Mitchell hate is strange to me. Dude scores 50 and somehow it's a bad thing.

ogmagicfan · Post #2636 » by **ogmagicfan** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:28 am

toooskies wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:Allen needs to play on Sunday.

If he plays he'll be limited. Rib injuries don't just go away. It's a problem. Mobley's ankle is a problem. Mitchell's knee is a problem. Wade's knee is a problem.

Now it's down to one game where all the role players are in a shooting slump and somehow Garland is the healthiest guy on the court...

Rib injuries really suck because you feel it everytime you breath

Running up & down the court breathing heavy, yoi're really gonna feel it

He was playing great in the series but I also think their offense has opened up more because they have better spacing without him

Post #2637 » by **jbk1234** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:34 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
toooskies wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:Allen needs to play on Sunday.

If he plays he'll be limited. Rib injuries don't just go away. It's a problem. Mobley's ankle is a problem. Mitchell's knee is a problem. Wade's knee is a problem.

Now it's down to one game where all the role players are in a shooting slump and somehow Garland is the healthiest guy on the court...

Rib injuries really suck because you feel it everytime you breath

Running up & down the court breathing heavy, yoi're really gonna feel it

He was playing great in the series but I also think their offense has opened up more because they have better spacing without him

The Cavs were up 5 heading into the 4th. They give up twice as much as they get replacing Allen/Mobley with Mobley/Niang or Mobley/Morris. There's an argument for Wade out there with Allen or Mobley. There's none with Wade in street clothes

JujitsuFlip · Post #2638 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:37 am

Rainwater wrote:Yeah, the Mitchell hate is strange to me. Dude scores 50 and somehow it's a bad thing.

It's bigger than 1 game.

This game was awesome, especially on a bum knee.

But the guy can walk for nothing in summer of 2025, it is a huge reality that can't be ignored.

RookieStar · Post #2639 » by **RookieStar** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:37 am

Am i seeing this right? Not only did Don the only Cavs player to score the entire 4th, he also outscored his entire team combined throughout the entire game?

JujitsuFlip · Post #2640 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Sat May 4, 2024 3:38 am

toooskies wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:Allen needs to play on Sunday.

If he plays he'll be limited. Rib injuries don't just go away. It's a problem. Mobley's ankle is a problem. Mitchell's knee is a problem. Wade's knee is a problem.

Now it's down to one game where all the role players are in a shooting slump and somehow Garland is the healthiest guy on the court...

Just the way we drew it up back in October lol

Who wins?