2023-24 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V3.0

[Tripod]

OKC gets: Poeltl and 2025 2nd pick (Tor)

GS gets: Giddey, Boucher and McDaniels (waive)

Toronto gets: Wiggins, Moody and future 1st pick (GS)

We won't be trading Yak.

We actually NEED to add a C to what we have....maybe 2.

[PoundTown]

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Contrary to the article I think he's more valuable before his 22M option is exercised. A team can trade a contract they want off the books for Brown, decline his option prior to the 29th, and free up 22 million in cap space prior to free agency.

Contracts teams may be looking to offload:

DeAndre Hunter, ATL (3 more years @ 20M)
Dillon Brooks, HOU (3 more years @ 22M)
Clint Capela, ATL (1 more years @ 20M)
Lonzo Ball, CHI (1 more year @ 20.5M)
Nikola Vucevic, CHI (2 more years @ 18.5M)
Duncan Robinson, MIA (2 more years @ 18M)
Tim Hardaway Jr, DAL (1 more year @ 17.8M)
Jonathan Isaac, ORL (1 more year @ 17.4M)
Harrison Barnes, SAC (2 more years @ 17M)
Davis Bertains, CHO (1 more year @ 17M)
Kevin Huerter, SAC (2 more years @ 15.7M)
Max Strus, CLE (3 more years @ 14.5M)
Brandon Clarke, MEM (3 more years @ 12.5M)
Grant Williams, CHO (3 more years @ 12.3M)

The following trades work in the trade checker:

Brown to Atlanta for Hunter + Bufkin + 2025 FRP

or

Brown to Atlanta for Capela + Bufkin + Gueye

Brown to Sacramento for Barnes + Davion + Colby Jones + pick 13

Brown to Chicago for Ball + Phillips + Terry + pick 11

Brown + pick 19 to Memphis for Clarke + Ziaire + pick 9

Mods need to take my suggestion on sticky the brown trade rules

His option needs to be picked up before he can be traded

Brown cannot be traded and then have his option declined

This has been posted dozens of times by numerous posters
The fact

If there is a situation where Houston comes across a free agent and needs to free up some space, sign me up for Brown and TPE for Brooks. He is the exact type of guy we need. We need someone with an edge on this squad. His grittiness would go a long way, since he seemingly has rang in that aspect of his game. Odds are Masai has a trade wrapped up by then. I do feel we are at the right time in rebuild to take that overpaid, but still somehwat productive veteran back to help a team with capspace and for us to get back a pick or young player for it. The Chicago scenarios still seem most likely to me and Lonzo is only on books for one more year.

[CazOnReal]

If there is a situation where Houston comes across a free agent and needs to free up some space, sign me up for Brown and TPE for Brooks. He is the exact type of guy we need. We need someone with an edge on this squad. His grittiness would go a long way, since he seemingly has rang in that aspect of his game. Odds are Masai has a trade wrapped up by then. I do feel we are at the right time in rebuild to take that overpaid, but still somehwat productive veteran back to help a team with capspace and for us to get back a pick or young player for it. The Chicago scenarios still seem most likely to me and Lonzo is only on books for one more year.

Given how Houston seemingly didn't even bother with a sign and trade when they pried away FVV when they did need to free up some money for both Fred and Dillon's signings (They needed to do a sign and trade for Brooks and they had to trade away some rookies to...I think OKC or the Jazz? I know Utah got Collins in a salary dump but regardless they needed to move those players to make the money work.), I think the odds of us making a trade with the Rockets for the next few years are slim.

I think the move is John Collins. Fits the "distressed asset" this FO has sought out in the past and the Jazz have a future 1st in 2025 to include for taking on the salary since he's on the books for 3 seasons (last year is a player option but I think he picks it up).

[Thaddy]

We should try to maximize Scottie in his athletic prime (23-27). If Garland is available he's a young former all star. He's the same age as Quickely and we have a need for talent.

Barrett for Garland is something we should consider. If Garland is viewed as overpaid and a toxic contract we wouldn't need to provide picks on top of RJ + Boucher (filler).

The best follow up for some balance we be to get an athletic PF with size. This is something I'd do through the draft and development. But the stop gap should be a double S&T of Trent Jr for PWill.

Poeltl - Olynyk
Barnes - Klintman (31st)
Williams - Agbaji
Quickely - Dick
Garland - Carter (19th)

Barnes and Garland are all stars. Quick can become one with more playing time and development. Then we have great role players in PWill, Poeltl, and Dick. Down the road a package of Quick or PWill and picks could add a third all star. Our core would be 23-25 with a competitive window of 5+ years.

[LoveMyRaps]

[vanhill]

kenneth lofton JR showing a lot of talents in both G league and the final games of the Jazz. We should definitely go after him in the offseason and get him cheap. He is strong, agile and able to score and rebound. Excellent addition for the team. He has the skills set to be something special.

[Tripod]

We are not creating a massive hole at C again by trading YAK.

[Rapsfan07]

We are not creating a massive hole at C again by trading YAK.

I don't mind moving Yak but:

1. We'd need to have a path to acquire another older stopgap C.
2. It needs to be for more value than an expiring Giddey who doesn't solve any of the problems we currently have and Dort. I like Dort, he's a good role player but that's about it.

Best destination for Poeltl is going to be Memphis, depending who is on the board then they're on the clock.

[Tripod]

We are not creating a massive hole at C again by trading YAK.

I don't mind moving Yak but:

1. We'd need to have a path to acquire another older stopgap C.
2. It needs to be for more value than an expiring Giddey who doesn't solve any of the problems we currently have and Dort. I like Dort, he's a good role player but that's about it.

Best destination for Poeltl is going to be Memphis, depending who is on the board then they're on the clock.

It took a few years to find a good C. Darko clearly wants one that can pass too so finding a replacement is not easy. Add on that we lost Koloko and Porter for depth.

I see no path where they trade a starting C to fill another hole, creating an even bigger hole at C.

We will keep Yak, add another C...possibly thru the draft. Fill other holes in other ways.

[alpngso]

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OKC probably can do a way with one of their picks in 25’ to add C like Allen or Poeltl

[Dyehardrapsfan]

Please don’t trade Poelt, this team lacks big men, that’s why we have the record we had due to his injury. He is effective . If we trade him and draft a big ,the paint will be ugly for us. We will be murdered in the paint

[DreamTeam09]

Bruce Brown for Keldon Johnson since the raps & Spurs r friends.

Apparently KJ isn't the most liked out in SA. He was in & out of the starting lineup. We should get a 2nd out of it

[navyblue]

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OKC probably can do a way with one of their picks in 25’ to add C like Allen or Poeltl

They way it reads at first seems much more picks.

It's 4 picks only
- (best of Houston, lac, OKC)
- Protected Miami, phi, Utah.

[ArthurVandelay]

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OKC probably can do a way with one of their picks in 25’ to add C like Allen or Poeltl

They way it reads at first seems much more picks.

It's 4 picks only
- (best of Houston, lac, OKC)
- Protected Miami, phi, Utah.

I’d take it

[Rapsfan07]

We are not creating a massive hole at C again by trading YAK.

I don't mind moving Yak but:

1. We'd need to have a path to acquire another older stopgap C.
2. It needs to be for more value than an expiring Giddey who doesn't solve any of the problems we currently have and Dort. I like Dort, he's a good role player but that's about it.

Best destination for Poeltl is going to be Memphis, depending who is on the board then they're on the clock.

It took a few years to find a good C. Darko clearly wants one that can pass too so finding a replacement is not easy. Add on that we lost Koloko and Porter for depth.

I see no path where they trade a starting C to fill another hole, creating an even bigger hole at C.

We will keep Yak, add another C...possibly thru the draft. Fill other holes in other ways.

You're probably right in that that won't trade him. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't.

I like Yak but we shouldn't allow him to be the reason we don't acquire other assets to accelerate the rebuild.

Moving him to the Grizzlies for some assets would help, then S&T Trent for Capela as a part of a two part deal where Brown gets swapped for Hunter and a pick.

[LoveMyRaps]

We are not creating a massive hole at C again by trading YAK.

It'd ensure a top 10 pick in next year's draft which would be a huge win.

With that being said - we can draft a center prospect this draft and start him from day 1. Perhaps Edey? Missi?

[CazOnReal]

Unless there's a guarantee of getting Yves Missi or Kel'el Ware, you're not trading Poeltl. If you can clear up cap space to poach Claxton or Hartenstein? Maybe. But those aren't guarantees and Claxton, despite being an excellent defensive fit, is a worse passer than Poeltl and doesn't project to be anywhere near as good as Jakob is operating from the top of the key.

[Thaddy]

Atlanta trades:
Hunter
Okongwu

Receives:
Brown

Toronto trades:
Brown

Receives:
Hunter
2025 PHI 1st
2025 OKC 1st

OKC trades:
2025 OKC 1st
2025 PHI 1st

Receives:
Okongwu

Atlanta needs to shuffle salary and make room for Sarr. They don't need Okongwu anymore and offloading Hunter helps them with the tax apron.

Hunter would be a good fit and give up a bigger line up. It hypothetically moves Barnes and Barrett to the perimeter at the 2 and 3. One of them needs to show out next year as a creator and shooter for that to work though.

Poeltl - Olynyk
Barnes - Hunter
Barrett - Hunter
Dick - Agbaji
Quickely - Carter (19)

[Clutch0z24]

OKC gets: Poeltl and 2025 2nd pick (Tor)

GS gets: Giddey, Boucher and McDaniels (waive)

Toronto gets: Wiggins, Moody and future 1st pick (GS)

We won't be trading Yak.

We actually NEED to add a C to what we have....maybe 2.

It all depends what happens...Are we trying to compete for the playoffs next year? If thats the case you keep Poeltl even though i doubt that moves the needle...Yak might even ask to be traded behind the scenes as we all remember his public comments at the press conference "Im not here to be apart of a rebuilding team, I want to be playing for something"....As it looks right now we are exactly the team Yak said he did not want to be apart of...

I see it being a very big possiblity Yak gets traded this year...Could be to move up in the draft or at the trade deadline for best package available.

I think all of
GTJR
Chris Boucher
Yak
Brown
McDaniels

Could be gone this offseason.

[CazOnReal]

Boucher's biggest problem in any sort of trade is salary matching; most playoff teams that can use an energy big off the bench don't have the cap space or exception to absorb him (Boston was a team that was mentioned to be interested in him), and they aren't likely to make a sidegrade by trading one of their own supporting players for him. I can see him fetching a few seconds and maybe there's a world where a team values him over a first in this draft but I don't think he's going to get, say, a 2025 1st even as an expiring.

Also not for nothing but he is coming off of an injury.

Atlanta trades:
Hunter
Okongwu

Receives:
Brown

Toronto trades:
Brown

Receives:
Hunter
2025 PHI 1st
2025 OKC 1st

OKC trades:
2025 OKC 1st
2025 PHI 1st

Receives:
Okongwu

Atlanta needs to shuffle salary and make room for Sarr. They don't need Okongwu anymore and offloading Hunter helps them with the tax apron.

Hunter would be a good fit and give up a bigger line up. It hypothetically moves Barnes and Barrett to the perimeter at the 2 and 3. One of them needs to show out next year as a creator and shooter for that to work though.

Poeltl - Olynyk
Barnes - Hunter
Barrett - Hunter
Dick - Agbaji
Quickely - Carter (19)

Peak delusional.

Brown isn't getting us 2 firsts. Not even in a salary dump like this.