Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[JayTWill]

Reid, Towns, Markkanen… that type of player and Bridges, please.

Now Lauri is thrown into this anyone but Randle schick? Never mind the questionable health concerns, has he ever been in the playoffs to warrant such faith?

Well he is 3 years younger while putting up similar scoring and rebounding numbers with much better efficiency while being surrounded with much less talent. I doubt Randle would have looked better in Lauri's position.

Randle is the better on-ball player while Lauri is a better off-ball player and floor spacer. I'm not sure Lauri is a good fit in Thibs' offense but I could see why some people would prefer Lauri to Randle.

Neither is my ideal top 2 offensive option but Lauri more easily slides into the #3 role if the Knicks find another top 2 option.

[Wildcat]

Deuce + Mitch + picks should satisfy for Bridges (contract is getting less tasty by the year)
Randle, Bogdonovic, more picks for Towns (possibly helps them financially, also gives them more grit/toughness)
Could also be done in a 3-way, but I will spare those details for now.


At the end of the day, I trust Thibs to make the defense work, particularly if we have the wings I think we will. The problem is Randle is not in any way a shot blocker and now will have a compromised shoulder. KAT can still protect the rim to some degree and allow us to play 5-out and match up better with the Celtics.
We CAN start iHart-Towns-OG-Bridges-Brunson. We can also go death lineup if we want. Having a true tweener pf/c or even an athletic stretch 5 would prevent many of the problems this team faces.

T-Wolves are not blowing it up. Their finances will finish well above the green to justify keeping the core together and eating taxes.

While there is a possibility you could end up right, there is most definitely a possibility you are wrong. KATs contract numbers are astronomical next 4 years. Randle drops those numbers dramatically for a player that is a good fit for their system with Reid, Goebert etc in the frontcourt and not really too much a drop from KAT. Even a resigned Randle won't cost what KAT does the last 4 years of his deal (at minimum for the next couple years of that deal)

KAT's salary is only a burden if the team flamed out in the 1st round. The deeper their run, the more money they will generate, which increases the likelihood of keeping their core together. The bulk of their core is signed for the next few years. Their revenue was a key issues in keeping this team together. Their gross revenue for 23/24 isn't available, but you can kind of map it out based on their 22/23 gross revenue, which was 259 mil against a cap hit of 174 mil. Their cap hit for 23/24 198 mil. Now if their revenue plateau -- which it must definitely did not based on how deep their playoff run is, coupled with ANT's popularity -- they can still keep the team together without blowing it up because they're still operating in the green. Things get tricky at 24/25 when their cap hit will be 273 mil. If they bottom out next season, I do see them absolutely blowing it to high water. But if they are hitting the WCF again, they'll eat the bullet.

This is somewhat similar to Golden State. They don't mind the luxury taxes because they generate a stupid amount of money.

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[Juco24]

Heh, I feel like I'm the only guy who would fight tooth and nail to keep DD in the starting lineup.

I think he’s a starter. But it cannot hurt to bring in bridges too.

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

[spree2kawhi]

Reid, Towns, Markkanen… that type of player and Bridges, please.

Now Lauri is thrown into this anyone but Randle schick? Never mind the questionable health concerns, has he ever been in the playoffs to warrant such faith?

Apparently the room for improvement has been identified by some…

[Wildcat]

Reid, Towns, Markkanen… that type of player and Bridges, please.

Now Lauri is thrown into this anyone but Randle schick? Never mind the questionable health concerns, has he ever been in the playoffs to warrant such faith?

Well he is 3 years younger while putting up similar scoring and rebounding numbers with much better efficiency while being surrounded with much less talent. I doubt Randle would have looked better in Lauri's position.

Randle is the better on-ball player while Lauri is a better off-ball player and floor spacer. I'm not sure Lauri is a good fit in Thibs' offense but I could see why some people would prefer Lauri to Randle.

Neither is my ideal top 2 offensive option but Lauri more easily slides into the #3 role if the Knicks find another top 2 option.

How can anyone objectively look at Randle and Lauri and say, "Yeah, I'll take Lauri." By you saying doubt Randle can produce the same numbers on a less talented team tells me how objective you really are, because he did it -- not once, not twice -- but thrice on awful teams. I happen to like Lauri quite a bit, but there's no way I'm putting on on the same tier as Randle. And if you're worried about salary, wait until next year, because someone is going to pay him the moon.

[KnixinSix]

I think he’s a starter. But it cannot hurt to bring in bridges too.

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Thibs most definitely will prefer Bridges style of play over Divo's . And I like Divo quite a bit

[KnixinSix]

T-Wolves are not blowing it up. Their finances will finish well above the green to justify keeping the core together and eating taxes.

While there is a possibility you could end up right, there is most definitely a possibility you are wrong. KATs contract numbers are astronomical next 4 years. Randle drops those numbers dramatically for a player that is a good fit for their system with Reid, Goebert etc in the frontcourt and not really too much a drop from KAT. Even a resigned Randle won't cost what KAT does the last 4 years of his deal (at minimum for the next couple years of that deal)

KAT's salary is only a burden if the team flamed out in the 1st round. The deeper their run, the more money they will generate, which increases the likelihood of keeping their core together. The bulk of their core is signed for the next few years. Their revenue was a key issues in keeping this team together. Their gross revenue for 23/24 isn't available, but you can kind of map it out based on their 22/23 gross revenue, which was 259 mil against a cap hit of 174 mil. Their cap hit for 23/24 198 mil. Now if their revenue plateau -- which it must definitely did not based on how deep their playoff run is, coupled with ANT's popularity -- they can still keep the team together without blowing it up because they're still operating in the green. Things get tricky at 24/25 when their cap hit will be 273 mil. If they bottom out next season, I do see them absolutely blowing it to high water. But if they are hitting the WCF again, they'll eat the bullet.

This is somewhat similar to Golden State. They don't mind the luxury taxes because they generate a stupid amount of money.

I am not saying what you have said his no chance to be right for you have presented a level of legitimate reasoning . But even if most you say is correct and they wouldn't be devastated to keep all that salary on the books, if they like Randle's fit anywhere near KATs it just makes too much sense not to shed that monster of a contract of his. Teams are a business too and if you can shed significant payroll as a smaller market team AND still be just about as good a team after shedding that payroll then 9 times out of 10 they do it.

I think it ONLY makes sense for us if we feel that KAT with our current roster makes us appreciably better than Randle does. And that in itself is debateable. I kinda lean yeah because he would complement our 5s so well with his outside shot AND can clearly play the 4 too.

[KnixinSix]

T-Wolves are not blowing it up. Their finances will finish well above the green to justify keeping the core together and eating taxes.

While there is a possibility you could end up right, there is most definitely a possibility you are wrong. KATs contract numbers are astronomical next 4 years. Randle drops those numbers dramatically for a player that is a good fit for their system with Reid, Goebert etc in the frontcourt and not really too much a drop from KAT. Even a resigned Randle won't cost what KAT does the last 4 years of his deal (at minimum for the next couple years of that deal)

KAT's salary is only a burden if the team flamed out in the 1st round. The deeper their run, the more money they will generate, which increases the likelihood of keeping their core together. The bulk of their core is signed for the next few years. Their revenue was a key issues in keeping this team together. Their gross revenue for 23/24 isn't available, but you can kind of map it out based on their 22/23 gross revenue, which was 259 mil against a cap hit of 174 mil. Their cap hit for 23/24 198 mil. Now if their revenue plateau -- which it must definitely did not based on how deep their playoff run is, coupled with ANT's popularity -- they can still keep the team together without blowing it up because they're still operating in the green. Things get tricky at 24/25 when their cap hit will be 273 mil. If they bottom out next season, I do see them absolutely blowing it to high water. But if they are hitting the WCF again, they'll eat the bullet.

This is somewhat similar to Golden State. They don't mind the luxury taxes because they generate a stupid amount of money.

I am not saying what you have said his no chance to be right for you have presented a level of legitimate reasoning . But even if most you say is correct and they wouldn't be devastated to keep all that salary on the books, if they like Randle's fit anywhere near KATs it just makes too much sense not to shed that monster of a contract of his. Teams are a business too and if you can shed significant payroll as a smaller market team AND still be just about as good a team after shedding that payroll then 9 times out of 10 they do it.

I think it ONLY makes sense for us if we feel that KAT with our current roster makes us appreciably better than Randle does. And that in itself is debateable. I kinda lean yeah because he would complement our 5s so well with his outside shot AND can clearly play the 4 too.

But I prefer other moves over trading Randle for KAT for sure if they become available

[HarthorneWingo]

Fck KAT. I'll keep Randle.

[spree2kawhi]

Now Lauri is thrown into this anyone but Randle schick? Never mind the questionable health concerns, has he ever been in the playoffs to warrant such faith?

Well he is 3 years younger while putting up similar scoring and rebounding numbers with much better efficiency while being surrounded with much less talent. I doubt Randle would have looked better in Lauri's position.

Randle is the better on-ball player while Lauri is a better off-ball player and floor spacer. I'm not sure Lauri is a good fit in Thibs' offense but I could see why some people would prefer Lauri to Randle.

Neither is my ideal top 2 offensive option but Lauri more easily slides into the #3 role if the Knicks find another top 2 option.

How can anyone objectively look at Randle and Lauri and say, "Yeah, I'll take Lauri." By you saying doubt Randle can produce the same numbers on a less talented team tells me how objective you really are, because he did it -- not once, not twice -- but thrice on awful teams. I happen to like Lauri quite a bit, but there's no way I'm putting on on the same tier as Randle. And if you're worried about salary, wait until next year, because someone is going to pay him the moon.

Maybe you want to check the shooting splits again?

Randle is okay for me but he can’t really play off the ball, cannot play center, not even for stretches and he’s not an efficient shooter. That’s important playing with a player à la Brunson though. I like Randle but you can’t deny that.

[Wildcat]

I think he’s a starter. But it cannot hurt to bring in bridges too.

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

[JayTWill]

Now Lauri is thrown into this anyone but Randle schick? Never mind the questionable health concerns, has he ever been in the playoffs to warrant such faith?

Well he is 3 years younger while putting up similar scoring and rebounding numbers with much better efficiency while being surrounded with much less talent. I doubt Randle would have looked better in Lauri's position.

Randle is the better on-ball player while Lauri is a better off-ball player and floor spacer. I'm not sure Lauri is a good fit in Thibs' offense but I could see why some people would prefer Lauri to Randle.

Neither is my ideal top 2 offensive option but Lauri more easily slides into the #3 role if the Knicks find another top 2 option.

How can anyone objectively look at Randle and Lauri and say, "Yeah, I'll take Lauri." By you saying doubt Randle can produce the same numbers on a less talented team tells me how objective you really are, because he did it -- not once, not twice -- but thrice on awful teams. I happen to like Lauri quite a bit, but there's no way I'm putting on on the same tier as Randle. And if you're worried about salary, wait until next year, because someone is going to pay him the moon.

I would take Lauri because he is 2.5 years younger,the same age as OG and would be locked into his next contract if extended from age 27-31 versus Randle at age 30-34. We are likely to see the physical decline of Randle over the length of his next contract and I still have questions about how Randle's game will age as he loses a step.

As far the 3 seasons with Randle having limited talent around him maybe you are talking his last season in LA and his season in NO where he came off the bench for half season which is a little different from Lauri starting and clearly being the best player on the Jazz.

The other season is the 20-21 Knicks season where even with Julius shooting over 40% from 3 his TS% was still 7-8 points lower than Lauri's the last 2 years in Utah. Or maybe you are talking about all 3 seasons in NY before Brunson arrived where lets say he just didn't play that well for 2 of those seasons. I don't know.

Stylistically I can understand where someone may prefer the on-ball creation of Randle over the shooting effieciency and spacing of Lauri but Randle's on-ball creation abilities have not shown themselves in the biggest moments. Even in the magical January the offense stalled out badly when Brunson left the floor and that's when I hoped Randle's skillset would shine.

I don't think there is a huge talent gap between the 2 either way.

[WargamesX]

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

The argument with Donte on the bench isn’t that he is a worst player than bridges. It’s the fact he could come in as a sixth man and take on more of the offensive work load. Basically if the bench is him, Hart, Mitch, and a good back up PG. Then the Knicks are a 48 minutes of maximum effort team without the players actually having to play 48 minutes

[Wildcat]

Well he is 3 years younger while putting up similar scoring and rebounding numbers with much better efficiency while being surrounded with much less talent. I doubt Randle would have looked better in Lauri's position.

Randle is the better on-ball player while Lauri is a better off-ball player and floor spacer. I'm not sure Lauri is a good fit in Thibs' offense but I could see why some people would prefer Lauri to Randle.

Neither is my ideal top 2 offensive option but Lauri more easily slides into the #3 role if the Knicks find another top 2 option.

How can anyone objectively look at Randle and Lauri and say, "Yeah, I'll take Lauri." By you saying doubt Randle can produce the same numbers on a less talented team tells me how objective you really are, because he did it -- not once, not twice -- but thrice on awful teams. I happen to like Lauri quite a bit, but there's no way I'm putting on on the same tier as Randle. And if you're worried about salary, wait until next year, because someone is going to pay him the moon.

Maybe you want to check the shooting splits again?

Randle is okay for me but he can’t really play off the ball, cannot play center, not even for stretches and he’s not an efficient shooter. That’s important playing with a player à la Brunson though. I like Randle but you can’t deny that.

Yes, how could I forget all that manners is a big man who can stretch.

There's no question Lauri is a better shooter. Randle is just better than him. Better at the rim, better at drawing fouls, better interior presence, better rebounder. Just better. And, to boot, he draws more doubles than Lauri. JB and Randle well playing well off each other the moment OG came into the picture. The offense was more fluid, there was more movement, the lanes were cleaner. I'm sure the offense can be refined some. It's adding a strength and accepting the negative impact.

[Wildcat]

I am not saying what you have said his no chance to be right for you have presented a level of legitimate reasoning . But even if most you say is correct and they wouldn't be devastated to keep all that salary on the books, if they like Randle's fit anywhere near KATs it just makes too much sense not to shed that monster of a contract of his. Teams are a business too and if you can shed significant payroll as a smaller market team AND still be just about as good a team after shedding that payroll then 9 times out of 10 they do it.

I think it ONLY makes sense for us if we feel that KAT with our current roster makes us appreciably better than Randle does. And that in itself is debateable. I kinda lean yeah because he would complement our 5s so well with his outside shot AND can clearly play the 4 too.

All right, purely for on court reasoning, it makes no sense for them to trade KAT for Randle. Their offense is built on a stretch big. They want to keep the lane open for McDaniel and ANT. Randle is many things, but a stretch big he is not. Putting Randle on a team with Rudy is basically Mitch/Randle 2.0. Their offense is designed for stretch big. Their defense is designed for the "twin tower" effect. You're basically telling the T-Wolves to change their entire identity.

[Wildcat]

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

The argument with Donte on the bench isn’t that he is a worst player than bridges. It’s the fact he could come in as a sixth man and take on more of the offensive work load. Basically if the bench is him, Hart, Mitch, and a good back up PG. Then the Knicks are a 48 minutes of maximum effort team without the players actually having to play 48 minutes

Your 6th man is Josh. The starting unit needs that 3 pointer threat that Donte provides. Bridge is a weaker 3 point shooter. He's not going to command the attention from beyond arc like he would. One of Bridges strengths is his ball handling capabilities. Guess who that serves better? The 2nd unit.

[BowlRips]

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

The argument with Donte on the bench isn’t that he is a worst player than bridges. It’s the fact he could come in as a sixth man and take on more of the offensive work load. Basically if the bench is him, Hart, Mitch, and a good back up PG. Then the Knicks are a 48 minutes of maximum effort team without the players actually having to play 48 minutes

Your 6th man is Josh. The starting unit needs that 3 pointer threat that Donte provides. Bridge is a weaker 3 point shooter. He's not going to command the attention from beyond arc like he would. One of Bridges strengths is his ball handling capabilities. Guess who that serves better? The 2nd unit.

If your rotation is deep enough it’s really not much of an issue

iHart
KAT
OG
Mikal
Brunson

First subs at 6 min mark are Hart and DDV for iHart and Mikal

KAT
OG
Hart
DDV
Brunson

And then start the 2nd with

iHart
Hart
Mikal
DDV
Deuce

Then eventually sub in the rear of the starting lineup

[Juco24]

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

Lost me at watching Nets games.

[Meat]

If Bridges is happy to come off the bench. Go for it. DD earned his starting spot. Bridges was very underwhelming this season.

Underwhelming? Huh? Totally disagree... Divi's defense was atrocious during the playoffs and was very streaky in his shooting during the playoffs. To add, Bridges had a better year (underwhelming) than Divi as A PRIMARY option where Divi had open looks created by Brunson and Randle. Like Divi, but no universe should he be starting ahead of Bridges

Tell me you didn't watch Nets games without telling me.

You understand there was considerable expectation for Bridges to take a giant leap in the 23/24 season, right? He also was very much not the primarily option. Cam was. He basically played as a third ball handler because he -- by his own admission -- wasn't aggressive like Cam or Dennis. He went from 27 PPG to 19. All his numbers across the board were down from his Phoenix days in 22/23. How do you not look at his numbers pre-Phoenix, and post-Phoenix after the trade, and don't expect a continuation? By his own admission, his play was inconsistent this year.

The Knicks starting lineup does not need a Bridges. If he comes off the bench, sure, whatever, but the Knicks need someone who is legitimate threat from 3 point range in the starting 5. Hell, if we're talking purely based on numbers, Donte had a better February, March, and April then Bridges as a number 2 option.

Let's also be real about Donte. He had 2 bad playoff games against Indiana and only 1 of them cost them a game where everyone had a bad game. I don't know how you can look at his numbers against Pacers of 22 @ 44/46/84 and say that was inconsistent.

who's the magical players? name 5 of these 3 point shooting centers, and then name who would be available for trade