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Post#501 » by Wonka » Tue May 28, 2024 7:10 am

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BRFOne wrote:Enrique Freeman and Jamal Shead are exactly the kind of dudes other good teams draft and we ask how the hell they got so lucky.


I didn't see Freeman other than the Creighton game, but Shead is one of those guys who can get wherever he wants with the ball, plus he's unselfish and a great defender. I would be shocked if he doesn't stick. A very deserving first team all-american. Wouldn't be upset with him with either pick. Gets insane separation.


I couldn’t agree more. Love me some Jamal Shead. I would be over the moon if we somehow grabbed him. His BBIQ is incredible.
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Post#502 » by Fotis St » Tue May 28, 2024 9:32 am

I loved Jamal Shead game.
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The no go from me is that he is 29 3P% shooter.
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Post#503 » by theFireBlanket » Tue May 28, 2024 10:34 am

BRFOne wrote:Enrique Freeman and Jamal Shead are exactly the kind of dudes other good teams draft and we ask how the hell they got so lucky.

If he's there at 23 I'd pick Enrique. Trade up if necessary, which I suspect it could be.
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Post#504 » by BUCKnation » Tue May 28, 2024 5:08 pm

emunney wrote:
BRFOne wrote:Enrique Freeman and Jamal Shead are exactly the kind of dudes other good teams draft and we ask how the hell they got so lucky.


I didn't see Freeman other than the Creighton game, but Shead is one of those guys who can get wherever he wants with the ball, plus he's unselfish and a great defender. I would be shocked if he doesn't stick. A very deserving first team all-american. Wouldn't be upset with him with either pick. Gets insane separation.

I mentioned awhile back that he reminded me of Jevon Carter but with higher offensive potential.
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Post#505 » by RiotPunch » Tue May 28, 2024 5:15 pm

Shead got that dawg in him.
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Post#506 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 28, 2024 5:53 pm

I don't have a huge opinion on Shead, but if you're drafting a guy that projects as a complete zero on offense, I'd rather they just take Dunn.
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Post#507 » by emunney » Tue May 28, 2024 6:07 pm

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emunney wrote:
BRFOne wrote:Enrique Freeman and Jamal Shead are exactly the kind of dudes other good teams draft and we ask how the hell they got so lucky.


I didn't see Freeman other than the Creighton game, but Shead is one of those guys who can get wherever he wants with the ball, plus he's unselfish and a great defender. I would be shocked if he doesn't stick. A very deserving first team all-american. Wouldn't be upset with him with either pick. Gets insane separation.

I mentioned awhile back that he reminded me of Jevon Carter but with higher offensive potential.


Yeah, his PG skills are on a completely different plane from Jevon's. Jevon is a point solely because that's who you want him defending.
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Post#508 » by Fotis St » Tue May 28, 2024 6:43 pm

I am leaning to the conclusion to draft two bigs ... we are in a good position at #23 #34

I believe 2 of the following will be available:

Kelel Ware
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Post#509 » by emunney » Tue May 28, 2024 8:22 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:I don't have a huge opinion on Shead, but if you're drafting a guy that projects as a complete zero on offense, I'd rather they just take Dunn.


He's not a complete zero on offense, though, he's a really good ball-handler and passer, and lightning quick.
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Post#510 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 28, 2024 8:35 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:I don't have a huge opinion on Shead, but if you're drafting a guy that projects as a complete zero on offense, I'd rather they just take Dunn.


He's not a complete zero on offense, though, he's a really good ball-handler and passer, and lightning quick.


I think he's fine as a decision-maker and he can certainly do enough "point guard-y" things out there to be effective with the ball in his hands, but dude shot 45% on twos (47% for his college career). That terrifies me even more than him being a complete non-spacer from 3PT range. Dude's built like Eric Bledsoe, but he finishes at the rim like Brandon Jennings. So yeah, I think he's pretty much a zero offensively in the pros unless he was just a really late-bloomer.
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Post#511 » by emunney » Tue May 28, 2024 8:55 pm

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emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I don't have a huge opinion on Shead, but if you're drafting a guy that projects as a complete zero on offense, I'd rather they just take Dunn.


He's not a complete zero on offense, though, he's a really good ball-handler and passer, and lightning quick.


I think he's fine as a decision-maker and he can certainly do enough "point guard-y" things out there to be effective with the ball in his hands, but dude shot 45% on twos (47% for his college career). That terrifies me even more than him being a complete non-spacer from 3PT range. Dude's built like Eric Bledsoe, but he finishes at the rim like Brandon Jennings. So yeah, I think he's pretty much a zero offensively in the pros unless he was just a really late-bloomer.


You might be right, but I think a lot of that has to do with starting 2 50% FT shooters and the problems that created for their spacing. The way he just leaves guys is going to take him farther with the space he'll have to operate on a NBA court. Most of the ball-handlers projected ahead of him he'd just eat alive on both ends
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Post#512 » by Matches Malone » Tue May 28, 2024 9:46 pm

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Post#513 » by BUCKnation » Tue May 28, 2024 9:57 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:
emunney wrote:
He's not a complete zero on offense, though, he's a really good ball-handler and passer, and lightning quick.


I think he's fine as a decision-maker and he can certainly do enough "point guard-y" things out there to be effective with the ball in his hands, but dude shot 45% on twos (47% for his college career). That terrifies me even more than him being a complete non-spacer from 3PT range. Dude's built like Eric Bledsoe, but he finishes at the rim like Brandon Jennings. So yeah, I think he's pretty much a zero offensively in the pros unless he was just a really late-bloomer.


You might be right, but I think a lot of that has to do with starting 2 50% FT shooters and the problems that created for their spacing. The way he just leaves guys is going to take him farther with the space he'll have to operate on a NBA court. Most of the ball-handlers projected ahead of him he'd just eat alive on both ends

I didn't watch Houston much, but despite their record that team looked like a disaster on offense, especially once Shead went down in the tournament.
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Post#514 » by ReasonablySober » Wed May 29, 2024 11:56 am

Is Bronny a better prospect than Green?
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Post#515 » by machu46 » Wed May 29, 2024 1:12 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I don't have a huge opinion on Shead, but if you're drafting a guy that projects as a complete zero on offense, I'd rather they just take Dunn.


He's not a complete zero on offense, though, he's a really good ball-handler and passer, and lightning quick.


I think he's fine as a decision-maker and he can certainly do enough "point guard-y" things out there to be effective with the ball in his hands, but dude shot 45% on twos (47% for his college career). That terrifies me even more than him being a complete non-spacer from 3PT range. Dude's built like Eric Bledsoe, but he finishes at the rim like Brandon Jennings. So yeah, I think he's pretty much a zero offensively in the pros unless he was just a really late-bloomer.


Shead was over 60% at the rim the last two years. Seems like that's the one thing he does well scoring-wise.
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Post#516 » by Brewhoopfan » Wed May 29, 2024 1:37 pm

I did a quick search of past 1st team NCAA all-americans just to gauge NBA success. If the bar is simply becoming an NBA rotational player, it's about a 50/50 proposition.

I like Shead, but I also think playing in Houston's system makes in difficult to project him at the next level.
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Post#517 » by Ron Swanson » Wed May 29, 2024 2:10 pm

Starting to talk myself more into Payton Sandfort at #33. Kinda dismissed him early as just a spot-up guy, but dude's got range on those deep pull-ups and a lightning quick release. Legit passing and decision-making chops are a bonus. All depends on how you think he can hold up defensively. Not an explosive vertical athlete in the slightest, but he did record a better shuttle time than Ryan Dunn. I think his feet/lateral quickness will be good enough for him to stick.

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Post#518 » by JonHeist » Wed May 29, 2024 4:33 pm

the more I think about it, the more I kinda hope we trade Brook for Wiggins and draft Edey

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if Edey stinks it forces Giannis to play at the 5 which is great (unless he gets hurt)

and if he's good in the "Brook Role" it should be pretty obvious right away

I also like the idea of Giannis getting used to playing against someone that big in practice
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Post#519 » by SupremeHustle » Wed May 29, 2024 4:58 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Starting to talk myself more into Payton Sandfort at #33. Kinda dismissed him early as just a spot-up guy, but dude's got range on those deep pull-ups and a lightning quick release. Legit passing and decision-making chops are a bonus. All depends on how you think he can hold up defensively. Not an explosive vertical athlete in the slightest, but he did record a better shuttle time than Ryan Dunn. I think his feet/lateral quickness will be good enough for him to stick.



He looks like he's from the janitors and plumbers era. These highlights are giving Klay Thompson-vibes, though.
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Post#520 » by Matches Malone » Wed May 29, 2024 5:12 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:Starting to talk myself more into Payton Sandfort at #33. Kinda dismissed him early as just a spot-up guy, but dude's got range on those deep pull-ups and a lightning quick release. Legit passing and decision-making chops are a bonus. All depends on how you think he can hold up defensively. Not an explosive vertical athlete in the slightest, but he did record a better shuttle time than Ryan Dunn. I think his feet/lateral quickness will be good enough for him to stick.



He looks like he's from the janitors and plumbers era. These highlights are giving Klay Thompson-vibes, though.


I could get down with Sandfort in the second. He's also a pretty underrated rebounder, which we desperately need more of.
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