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Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 2 : We Running it Back.. (WITH MITCHELL!)

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Re: Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 2 : We Running it Back.. (WITH MITCHELL!) 

Post#401 » by twix2500 » Wed May 29, 2024 1:41 am

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Kobewade11 wrote:What do we have that the Clippers want?


I don't want to debate that because some in here feel all our players have no trade value

But PG in position to walk leaving Clippers empty handed. Clips have no leverage


I think we have a number of players with value, I just don't believe the players most here want to dump are the guys that would interest LA. A team like Philly or Orlando could sign PG directly into cap, if they don't want what we're offering they can say screw you PG go sign with one of those other teams.


oh that's true. The clips are a sinking ship. Leonard doesn't have players who want to play with him. Those guys have aged out. Free agency will not be kind to the clips. Clips need trade chipsto work with. Harden agent has already started trade rumors
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Post#402 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 29, 2024 2:00 am

If we are not serious about extending Jimmy then trade talks need to be happening before the draft and free agency with teams that have cap space or contracted players of interest.

Here goes a potential look at a 76ers deal. Basically they get us off Butler’s contract and pay us with 3 picks. Picks that also open up all our other picks to trade. If we are looking to clean up the books and do a soft rebuild around young players with the potential to make a bigger trade this is it.

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Post#403 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 29, 2024 2:13 am

48 million dollar trade exception and 3 1st. Send him to Philly.
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Post#404 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 2:29 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:48 million dollar trade exception and 3 1st. Send him to Philly.


and use the cap space to sign LeBron and retire to the sunset and draft Bronny

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Post#405 » by Kobewade11 » Wed May 29, 2024 2:49 am

MettaWorldPanda wrote:If we are not serious about extending Jimmy then trade talks need to be happening before the draft and free agency with teams that have cap space or contracted players of interest.

Here goes a potential look at a 76ers deal. Basically they get us off Butler’s contract and pay us with 3 picks. Picks that also open up all our other picks to trade. If we are looking to clean up the books and do a soft rebuild around young players with the potential to make a bigger trade this is it.

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I don't believe we'll trade Jimmy but if it was to happen my dream scenario would be to flip that draft booty for De'Aaron Fox, a real young star the team could build around.
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Post#406 » by TroubleS0me » Wed May 29, 2024 2:54 am

he can go, he's getting old
I know it sounds harsh but hey its business
riley you know what to do
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Post#407 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 29, 2024 3:00 am

Kobewade11 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:If we are not serious about extending Jimmy then trade talks need to be happening before the draft and free agency with teams that have cap space or contracted players of interest.

Here goes a potential look at a 76ers deal. Basically they get us off Butler’s contract and pay us with 3 picks. Picks that also open up all our other picks to trade. If we are looking to clean up the books and do a soft rebuild around young players with the potential to make a bigger trade this is it.

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I don't believe we'll trade Jimmy but if it was to happen my dream scenario would be to flip that draft booty for De'Aaron Fox, a real young star the team could build around.

The good news is we’ll actually have strong assets to be real players for anyone that opens up.
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Post#408 » by twix2500 » Wed May 29, 2024 3:22 am

Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team
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Post#409 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 3:25 am

twix2500 wrote:Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team


Jimmy is all about that glamour lifestyle and wants his max extension, you can bet Riley would do him a favor and will trade him to any team that can sign him that max. I don't know, but I'm getting another DWade vibes.
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Post#410 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 3:31 am

I'm confident Jimmy stays if no other team will offer him that max. But it looks like Embiid is really pushing FO for it and would likely to get this wish.
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Post#411 » by eddieheatfan » Wed May 29, 2024 3:31 am

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twix2500 wrote:Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team


Jimmy is all about that glamour lifestyle and wants his max extension, you can bet Riley would do him a favor and will trade him to any team that can sign him that max. I don't know, but I'm getting another DWade vibes.
send it to the lakers. is the most intelligent trade that the heat can make for draft picks. lebron would love to have another "star" with him. also with the fakers being am aging superteam would make the life of the likes of denver,dallas,golden state and the rest more difficult to emerge with energy come playoff time.

i do agree that sending him to the east would be a mistake unless we get something valuable in return. jimmy is aging and with that will come with its own probs aside from his prima donna attitude
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Post#412 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 3:36 am

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twix2500 wrote:Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team


Jimmy is all about that glamour lifestyle and wants his max extension, you can bet Riley would do him a favor and will trade him to any team that can sign him that max. I don't know, but I'm getting another DWade vibes.
send it to the lakers. is the most intelligent trade that the heat can make for draft picks. lebron would love to have another "star" with him. also with the fakers being am aging superteam would make the life of the likes of denver,dallas,golden state and the rest more difficult to emerge with energy come playoff time.

i do agree that sending him to the east would be a mistake unless we get something valuable in return. jimmy is aging and with that will come with its own probs aside from his prima donna attitude


Why are we worried if we send him to an eastern conference team? We will be basically in a soft rebuild once Jimmy is out of town. We are not contending anytime soon.
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Post#413 » by eddieheatfan » Wed May 29, 2024 3:49 am

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Jimmy is all about that glamour lifestyle and wants his max extension, you can bet Riley would do him a favor and will trade him to any team that can sign him that max. I don't know, but I'm getting another DWade vibes.
send it to the lakers. is the most intelligent trade that the heat can make for draft picks. lebron would love to have another "star" with him. also with the fakers being am aging superteam would make the life of the likes of denver,dallas,golden state and the rest more difficult to emerge with energy come playoff time.

i do agree that sending him to the east would be a mistake unless we get something valuable in return. jimmy is aging and with that will come with its own probs aside from his prima donna attitude


Why are we worried if we send him to an eastern conference team? We will be basically in a soft rebuild once Jimmy is out of town. We are not contending anytime soon.
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Post#414 » by ZoStrong » Wed May 29, 2024 4:58 am

twix2500 wrote:Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team


If Jimmy want that max extension n wanna play w Embiid again, this could be win win for everyone involved, tbh. We can quickly turn around n use the picks n some assets to rebuild right away
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Post#415 » by ZoStrong » Wed May 29, 2024 5:01 am

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Jimmy is all about that glamour lifestyle and wants his max extension, you can bet Riley would do him a favor and will trade him to any team that can sign him that max. I don't know, but I'm getting another DWade vibes.
send it to the lakers. is the most intelligent trade that the heat can make for draft picks. lebron would love to have another "star" with him. also with the fakers being am aging superteam would make the life of the likes of denver,dallas,golden state and the rest more difficult to emerge with energy come playoff time.

i do agree that sending him to the east would be a mistake unless we get something valuable in return. jimmy is aging and with that will come with its own probs aside from his prima donna attitude


Why are we worried if we send him to an eastern conference team? We will be basically in a soft rebuild once Jimmy is out of town. We are not contending anytime soon.


I seriously doubt Jimmy will get them over the hump tho. Embiid is that broken, imo. He will not make it thru a grueling playoff all the way to the Finals.
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Post#416 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 5:19 am

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eddieheatfan wrote: send it to the lakers. is the most intelligent trade that the heat can make for draft picks. lebron would love to have another "star" with him. also with the fakers being am aging superteam would make the life of the likes of denver,dallas,golden state and the rest more difficult to emerge with energy come playoff time.

i do agree that sending him to the east would be a mistake unless we get something valuable in return. jimmy is aging and with that will come with its own probs aside from his prima donna attitude


Why are we worried if we send him to an eastern conference team? We will be basically in a soft rebuild once Jimmy is out of town. We are not contending anytime soon.


I seriously doubt Jimmy will get them over the hump tho. Embiid is that broken, imo. He will not make it thru a grueling playoff all the way to the Finals.


We'll see if they come into postseason both healthy, then I can see them contend with the Celtics. Maxey is legit. That's the type of player we need here to get over the hump.
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Post#417 » by EMC5466 » Wed May 29, 2024 6:16 am

Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy will not play for a penny less than the max. If the Heat don’t sign him to the max this summer he will see that as a betrayal and will opt out next summer and will never sign another deal with Miami again.

Ethan believes there are three teams that will offer Jimmy the max with Philadelphia being one of them. He also said that Jimmy is a huge pain in the ass behind the scenes.
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Post#418 » by marson » Wed May 29, 2024 6:42 am

EMC5466 wrote:Ethan Skolnick says Jimmy will not play for a penny less than the max. If the Heat don’t sign him to the max this summer he will see that as a betrayal and will opt out next summer and will never sign another deal with Miami again.

Ethan believes there are three teams that will offer Jimmy the max with Philadelphia being one of them. He also said that Jimmy is a huge pain in the ass behind the scenes.


I'm just ready for the soft rebuild at this point. Bam, Jovic, Jaquez and hopefully a good pick in Da Silva or a PG would still be fun to watch and then 3-4 years of waiting for the next whale to force his way here.
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Post#419 » by wade44 » Wed May 29, 2024 10:15 am

ZoStrong wrote:
twix2500 wrote:Heat will not trade Jimmy to any eastern conference team


If Jimmy want that max extension n wanna play w Embiid again, this could be win win for everyone involved, tbh. We can quickly turn around n use the picks n some assets to rebuild right away


It’s a no brainer. Team has to think with its head over heart here. All due respect to Jimmy but he’s no D Wade and we don’t owe it to him
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Post#420 » by SA37 » Wed May 29, 2024 11:46 am

carnageta wrote:
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carnageta wrote:Remember how a week ago there were posts about following the 'Pacers blueprint' :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I mean, they are missing Mathurin and now Haliburton. In the last two games, they took the Celtics down to the wire. Impressive.



Everyone was injured these playoffs lol. It's not about how close you got. They lost all 4 games. They barely squeaked by a depleted Knicks team. They likely wouldn't have made it past the first round if Milwaukee wasn't missing their best player.


Just found it was pretty 'forced' with the whole 'follow their blueprint' narratives lol. Just didn't make any sense to me.


It's true, injuries are part of the game, and certainly Indiana benefitted from it against Milwaukee and NY. That said, I don't think it takes away from their playoff performance.

I am not sure there is an "Indiana blueprint" to follow. Certainly they have positioned themselves well given the fact they have not had a pick higher than 6 since 1989 and they have only had 2 top-10 picks in that time frame. That said, they haven't particularly drafted well; in fact, if you look, they've drafted pretty poorly. They have made a couple of good trades in acquiring Sabonis, Haliburton, and Siakam.

So, yeah, I am with you on the "Indiana blueprint".

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