OT- Trump found guilty in Hush Money Trial

[KnicksGadfly]

America experiences inflation for the first time in 40 years and most of the country turns into a pack of vaginas

I remember my father stashing his money in a money market fund and collecting 17% interest. What we're going through now is mild by comparison and the economy has been very resilient even if income disparities are growing. But that's the nature of our economic system now, far less of a result of anything either POTUS has done. I think I'll back the guy who's investing in American infrastructure and alternative energy over the guy who dispensed massive checks funded by the taxpayers to his buddies.

It's actually pretty crazy how Trump was offering oil executives policy perks in exchange for funding

[MrDollarBills]

Tried to forgive mine too but the corrupt republican justices decided to put a stop to that. As if I needed any more incentive to never vote republican.

They did the same to my sister. Hang in there brother. I think if Joe gets term 2 and a Congress to work with he's gonna follow up.

Try telling the CA board that lol

Dudes over there think people are too ungrateful or whatever and Biden should stop.

Yeah I can't take them seriously

[MrDollarBills]

America experiences inflation for the first time in 40 years and most of the country turns into a pack of vaginas

I remember my father stashing his money in a money market fund and collecting 17% interest. What we're going through now is mild by comparison and the economy has been very resilient even if income disparities are growing. But that's the nature of our economic system now, far less of a result of anything either POTUS has done. I think I'll back the guy who's investing in American infrastructure and alternative energy over the guy who dispensed massive checks funded by the taxpayers to his buddies.

It's actually pretty crazy how Trump was offering oil executives policy perks in exchange for funding

Open criminality on display. That should be a national scandal, but since it's Donnie sh*tpants, the media treats it as normal that a former POTUS just solicited bribes from the oil industry.

There's a lot of complicity surrounding Trump. He's not doing this on his own.

[Clyde_Style]

America experiences inflation for the first time in 40 years and most of the country turns into a pack of vaginas

I remember my father stashing his money in a money market fund and collecting 17% interest. What we're going through now is mild by comparison and the economy has been very resilient even if income disparities are growing. But that's the nature of our economic system now, far less of a result of anything either POTUS has done. I think I'll back the guy who's investing in American infrastructure and alternative energy over the guy who dispensed massive checks funded by the taxpayers to his buddies.

It's actually pretty crazy how Trump was offering oil executives policy perks in exchange for funding

He said give me a billion dollars and I will deregulate your industry

He's a common criminal who got the keys to the kingdom and people actually want to let him back in. It's insane

[WargamesX]

New York City to the rest of America “You’re Welcome”.

[Luv those Knicks]

Expected outcome, doesn’t mean much.

Trump still winning the election anyway.

That's what you said last election

But now he’s heavily favored.

https://electionbettingodds.com/

At least he’s not Biden, that counts for something.

At least Biden's not Trump. That's why Biden won last time and will win this time.

a LOT of people passionately dislike Trump. Enough to vote for Biden in record numbers. That's not partisan. It's fact. You might not like that, but it's true.

[Luv those Knicks]

New York City to the rest of America “You’re Welcome”.

I'm a lifelong democrat, but I'm not happy with this outcome. I'm not unhappy with it, but the whole thing feels like a mess more than a happy outcome.

Does anyone else feel that way, or is it just me? (democrats only please, obviously republicans might not be happy with this outcome).

[Luv those Knicks]

What are the big knocks on RFK? I'm not really familiar with American politics much.

Do you know what a libertarian is? That's your answer in a nutshell.

No, he's just a spoiler who attracts conspiracy nuts. Libertarians are not particularly supporting him.

Interesting. And, I probably should have known that but I didn't. It seems RFK didn't get the Libertarian primary. Some cat named Chase Oliver did. RFK's running as an independent.

I hate 3rd party candidates in a 2 party system.

[NowWHYcee7]

MAGAs will double down. Swing voters will waver. A few crazies will vote for RFK. But in the end Biden will be re-elected. The real issue now is what happens with congressional control, because I know Trump will not be POTUS again and will die in prison if he doesn't keel over first.

Trump will pay a few fees and nobody will care in a few months. Per usual. Biden's economy is killing a majority of the country and that's why his poll numbers are abysmal in almost every state. The only people who care about this are hyper-partisan democrats and left wing celebrities.

Now lock the thread lmao.

All you're doing here is moving the goal posts. A few months ago you'd have said he would never get convicted. Now you're pretending he won't be punished. It is not partisanship that got Trump into this mess. It was Trump. Deflecting will only back you further into the corner you're already in.

Except I’m not in a corner. This is like when the mugshot dropped. Then nobody cared. He’s not serving any jail time for this. All this shows is that the dems can’t beat him on the issues. And btw I’m not even a Trump guy, but Biden is a disaster and the country can’t afford another 4 years of him in office. I rather give Trump another 4 since his administration was at least competent economy wise, and take it from there. Our political system is a joke. So yeah…Trump 2024 lol

[Riot Randolph]

That's what you said last election

But now he’s heavily favored.

https://electionbettingodds.com/

At least he’s not Biden, that counts for something.

Do you not understand what has been happening since 2020?

Every poll showing a Republican with a lead was wrong and they all got destroyed at the ballot box. Every poll has been dead wrong for years now. The polling methodologies are completely broken.

It is the way the media handicaps the GOP to give them a fighting chance so they can sell clicks and ads.

the troll like tendencies of trumps voters has broken polling

[Clyde_Style]

But now he’s heavily favored.

https://electionbettingodds.com/

At least he’s not Biden, that counts for something.

Do you not understand what has been happening since 2020?

Every poll showing a Republican with a lead was wrong and they all got destroyed at the ballot box. Every poll has been dead wrong for years now. The polling methodologies are completely broken.

It is the way the media handicaps the GOP to give them a fighting chance so they can sell clicks and ads.

the troll like tendencies of trumps voters has broken polling

Fanatic's are driven by the urge to destabilize without any ideas of their own to fill the void they wish to create. That generates a vortex that is capable of pulling in people without true convictions of their own. Republicans with any sense of true identity either hold their nose and go along with it due to some perceived self-interest or they defect and become swing voting independents and sometimes democrats.

So in the way you're putting it, yes they broke polling. Yet the pollsters could adjust their methods to account for variances and they don't. They are now in the game of promoting horse races, not actual probabilities. If they were, they'd have adjusted in the last four years and they haven't. They're almost universally inaccurate now and are routinely predicting 5 point wins for Republicans that turn into 5-30 point wins for Democrats. It has happened dozens of times in recent memory. It's more than a trend. It's now a scam.

[Fat Kat]

[Hatrick Ewing]

Do you know what a libertarian is? That's your answer in a nutshell.

No, he's just a spoiler who attracts conspiracy nuts. Libertarians are not particularly supporting him.

Interesting. And, I probably should have known that but I didn't. It seems RFK didn't get the Libertarian primary. Some cat named Chase Oliver did. RFK's running as an independent.

I hate 3rd party candidates in a 2 party system.

What do Americans hate about libertarians? Just that they don't want the government to be larger?

[BKlutch]

MAGAs will double down. Swing voters will waver. A few crazies will vote for RFK. But in the end Biden will be re-elected. The real issue now is what happens with congressional control, because I know Trump will not be POTUS again and will die in prison if he doesn't keel over first.

What are the big knocks on RFK? I'm not really familiar with American politics much.

"Worms ate my brain!"

Spoiler:

Pictures to prove it, too.

But that's the least of his problems. He is so fukking QAnon-style crazy.

[Clyde_Style]

Trump will pay a few fees and nobody will care in a few months. Per usual. Biden's economy is killing a majority of the country and that's why his poll numbers are abysmal in almost every state. The only people who care about this are hyper-partisan democrats and left wing celebrities.

Now lock the thread lmao.

All you're doing here is moving the goal posts. A few months ago you'd have said he would never get convicted. Now you're pretending he won't be punished. It is not partisanship that got Trump into this mess. It was Trump. Deflecting will only back you further into the corner you're already in.

Except I’m not in a corner. This is like when the mugshot dropped. Then nobody cared. He’s not serving any jail time for this. All this shows is that the dems can’t beat him on the issues. And btw I’m not even a Trump guy, but Biden is a disaster and the country can’t afford another 4 years of him in office. I rather give Trump another 4 since his administration was at least competent economy wise, and take it from there. Our political system is a joke. So yeah…Trump 2024 lol

And what are you going to post on July 12th if he is sentenced to prison time?

Will you say he'll appeal it and win? Because he wouldn't win those appeals and he'd have to serve that time.

And I have no idea what you're talking about because he lost by 7 million votes.

You say Biden is a disaster. How?

What competence did Trump show on economics?

Trump promised a new infrastructure bill every week for 4 years and produced nothing. Biden got it done

Trump promised to confront China and did nothing. Biden just shut down China's access to our electric car markets to ensure we don't ever become held hostage by their supply chain ever again and will be able to sustain our own domestic EV industry right here at home.

Biden inherited the economic conditions created under Trump that led to our inflation and he has been bringing it back down.

Trump handled covid like a clown and the country got shut down even worse than it should have been, leaving it for Biden to deal with. And Biden got a vaccine out in record time and put things back in motion

Trump's idea of management was shutting down the federal government out of spite and putting federal workers out of work for extended periods of time. Great economic skills there

Trump promised to bring back domestic manufacture and companies that backed him on those promises said he lied and they went to Mexico to get things built. Biden is backing unions and labor and is working to rebuild their capacity to bring American Made back

I could on and on about the BS people spew about Biden. You've got anything concrete to share other than vague anger at the man?

[Clyde_Style]

No, he's just a spoiler who attracts conspiracy nuts. Libertarians are not particularly supporting him.

Interesting. And, I probably should have known that but I didn't. It seems RFK didn't get the Libertarian primary. Some cat named Chase Oliver did. RFK's running as an independent.

I hate 3rd party candidates in a 2 party system.

What do Americans hate about libertarians? Just that they don't want the government to be larger?

Libertarianism got co-opted by GOP operatives who falsely campaigned on the promise of less government. The facts are Republicans are the party that has always blown up our federal budget and mismanaged our expenses. There is nothing libertarian about the GOP, because actual libertarian principles tend to leave people alone when it comes to decisions of self-governance like sexual orientation or abortion.

[seren]

Trump will unfortunately win in November. Doesnt matter he shoots someone in the middle of times square.

[Hatrick Ewing]

People can laugh but especially overseas people may resonate with the message of someone like Dwayne Johnson far more than the 2 candidates that are proposed. Hard work, charisma, loyalty.

[Clyde_Style]

Trump will unfortunately win in November. Doesnt matter he shoots someone in the middle of times square.

No he won't. He lost by 7 million votes to the same person and he has lost more support in that time. There are actually more people who think Biden is a good president than people who don't. The people who believe he's a good president show up and vote. The ones who claim he sucks talk a lot and vote less and there are less of them. Just because some big states have more vocal Trump supporters doesn't give Trump any kind of electoral advantage. They're just loud and obnoxious about their convictions whereas those who vote for Biden and the Democrats show their convictions at the polls. Dozens of elections since the last general election have proven that polls say Republicans will win have been consistently wrong. You don't get margins of victory by 15% when you were told you would lose because you don't have support. Biden's support is out there. The gum flappers are deluding themselves if they believe otherwise.

I know Trump is teflon to his base, but the barely engaged know-nothing voter is going to be influenced by his convictions and by his senility. He just slept through this past trial. His mind is shot. Now watch what happens next. He will pull out of the debates with Biden. Because if he doesn't that will sink him even worse. He's rapidly devolving into dementia and that will very much influence his fortunes.

[MrDollarBills]

I'm surprised that this thread is still open

No, he's just a spoiler who attracts conspiracy nuts. Libertarians are not particularly supporting him.

Interesting. And, I probably should have known that but I didn't. It seems RFK didn't get the Libertarian primary. Some cat named Chase Oliver did. RFK's running as an independent.

I hate 3rd party candidates in a 2 party system.

What do Americans hate about libertarians? Just that they don't want the government to be larger?

libertarian politics are weird to me because why should we have government that doesn't look out for and protect the best interests of the public?

What does "small government" really mean?

The idea that a civilized society should be the wild wild west is asinine to me.