Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 2 : We Running it Back.. (WITH MITCHELL!)

[Wiltside]

Highsmith getting $10-$15m would be lol

[AirP.]

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I'm really not a fan of only offensive players unless they're just dominate but if healthy, LaVine has been an EFFICIENT high volume scorer. He's been over 60% TS% 3 of his last 4 seasons and in those 3 seasons he shot 17.7 shots per game up to 19.4 shots per game. If healthy (they have to have the medicals) he fixes a lot of Miami's problems and yes, I think Spoelstra gets even more out of him if he were to play for Miami.

It would be interesting to see how little Miami could give to get him and if they could get a cheaper player with him, say a guy like Alex Caruso at just under 10 mil next season?

[MettaWorldPanda]

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I'm really not a fan but if healthy, LaVine has been an EFFICIENT high volume scorer. He's been over 60% TS% 3 of his last 4 seasons and in those 3 seasons he shot 17.7 shots per game up to 19.4 shots per game. If healthy (they have to have the medicals) he fixes a lot of Miami's problems and yes, I think Spoelstra gets even more out of him if he were to play for Miami.

It would be interesting to see how little Miami could give to get him and if they could get a cheaper player with him, say a guy like Alex Caruso at 10 mil next season?

I don't think we'll be interested with LaVine being a Klutch guy. May open up the door for a 3 way trade that involves Herro going to Chicago. Looks like the Bulls are going to try and dump his salary with a pick to a team that has cap space. Detroit seems logical.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Cool Caruso will fit great next to Mitchell or Trae in Miami

[Flash4thewin]

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I'm really not a fan of only offensive players unless they're just dominate but if healthy, LaVine has been an EFFICIENT high volume scorer. He's been over 60% TS% 3 of his last 4 seasons and in those 3 seasons he shot 17.7 shots per game up to 19.4 shots per game. If healthy (they have to have the medicals) he fixes a lot of Miami's problems and yes, I think Spoelstra gets even more out of him if he were to play for Miami.

It would be interesting to see how little Miami could give to get him and if they could get a cheaper player with him, say a guy like Alex Caruso at just under 10 mil next season?

He’s with Klutch but assuming he changes representation, then something could be worked out with Herro. Alex just has one year left on his contract and will be getting a hefty pay raise we can’t afford. He is at the age where getting paid will be a priority so we can’t try to sell him on culture.

[Beenie]

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I'm really not a fan of only offensive players unless they're just dominate but if healthy, LaVine has been an EFFICIENT high volume scorer. He's been over 60% TS% 3 of his last 4 seasons and in those 3 seasons he shot 17.7 shots per game up to 19.4 shots per game. If healthy (they have to have the medicals) he fixes a lot of Miami's problems and yes, I think Spoelstra gets even more out of him if he were to play for Miami.

It would be interesting to see how little Miami could give to get him and if they could get a cheaper player with him, say a guy like Alex Caruso at just under 10 mil next season?

I fancy this package assuming Lavine has a clean bill of health.

Someone who can actually finish on the break would be a breath of fresh air

[MettaWorldPanda]

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I'm really not a fan of only offensive players unless they're just dominate but if healthy, LaVine has been an EFFICIENT high volume scorer. He's been over 60% TS% 3 of his last 4 seasons and in those 3 seasons he shot 17.7 shots per game up to 19.4 shots per game. If healthy (they have to have the medicals) he fixes a lot of Miami's problems and yes, I think Spoelstra gets even more out of him if he were to play for Miami.

It would be interesting to see how little Miami could give to get him and if they could get a cheaper player with him, say a guy like Alex Caruso at just under 10 mil next season?

He’s with Klutch but assuming he changes representation, then something could be worked out with Herro. Alex just has one year left on his contract and will be getting a hefty pay raise we can’t afford. He is at the age where getting paid will be a priority so we can’t try to sell him on culture.

No way he’s changing reps. He was just at Bronny’s pro day with team Klutch

[Lennyzinho]

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Good lets move on. The Jagsmith archetype is the easiest to find in the UDFA pool every year.

Was there mention of a S&T being an option to net a 2nd rounder?

Time for Cain. Raising Cain if you will.

3 & D dudes like Caleb, Haywood, DJJ on mavs, are good when they're on cheap contracts... Caleb making 7 and djj haywood making 2... when you start paying those dudes 10-15M per, that's when you're cooked and your roster has no chance.

Unless you're an elite version of those guys like Herbert Jones or OG, let them get overpaid by someone else and find the next one.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Wonder if Orlando would be interested in a Herro for Anthony and Isaac(expiring 17.4) type of deal. Suggs and Herro would make for a decent backcourt. Our bench would be bolstered with Anthony at backup PG and Isaac backing up Jovic.

Found this

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/posts/5-orlando-magic-trade-targets-from-teams-that-fell-short-in-playoffs/5

Bam, Isaac, and Butler front court defensively would be jail for teams

[Rapaz]

Highsmith is coming to NOLA. Mama’s gonna make him moonlight as the star driver at the state Demolition Derby.

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[Lennyzinho]

Highsmith is coming to NOLA. Mama’s gonna make him moonlight as the star driver at the state Demolition Derby.

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Lmao. Jesus... too soon.

[Wiltside]

Wonder if Orlando would be interested in a Herro for Anthony and Isaac(expiring 17.4) type of deal. Suggs and Herro would make for a decent backcourt. Our bench would be bolstered with Anthony at backup PG and Isaac backing up Jovic.

Found this

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/posts/5-orlando-magic-trade-targets-from-teams-that-fell-short-in-playoffs/5

Bam, Isaac, and Butler front court defensively would be jail for teams

Could be a rare win win trade. I’d probably do it.

[RexBoyWonder]

Who's giving the Cavs a better offer then then Herro + Jamie + 2024 #15 pick + 2030 pick?

Mitchell
Duncan
Jimmy
Jovic
Bam

Rozier 6th man scoring off the bench.

Really don't see what's not realisitc about this.

I do think we might need to trade Duncan for a better defender next to Mitchell, not sure who.

PS - I think Alondes Williams is going to suprise some people. He'll be the next Vincent (just different style).

[Pokuokic]

Would OKC go for the Fake Don/Garret Allen in a trade? They could offer tons of picks and probably Jalen Williams (have to give up something good)/Giddy plus filler....Or even 2 separate trades where they give up extra picks for Allen since they got so many potentially like 8-10 picks and maybe take out JDub from the trade.....

SGA
Fake Don
?
Chet
Allen

is a nasty starting 5.

Thats way better than the trash Heat offer and they get rid of the rubbish pairing of Allen/Mobley who are both good but can't play together that well.

[contract]

Good lets move on. The Jagsmith archetype is the easiest to find in the UDFA pool every year.

Was there mention of a S&T being an option to net a 2nd rounder?

Time for Cain. Raising Cain if you will.

3 & D dudes like Caleb, Haywood, DJJ on mavs, are good when they're on cheap contracts... Caleb making 7 and djj haywood making 2... when you start paying those dudes 10-15M per, that's when you're cooked and your roster has no chance.

Unless you're an elite version of those guys like Herbert Jones or OG, let them get overpaid by someone else and find the next one.

All role players are only valuable when on cheap contracts. Spending more than 5% of the cap on a non-starter quality role player is an error. Spending more than 10% on a starting quality role player is an error. When you go beyond that you get yourself into trouble.

People screw up when they worry about how much other teams are willing to pay guys rather than how easy/hard it will be to replace them and how much that would cost. A good rule of thumb is if every other team in the league has a guy just like him, don't pay him more than scraps.

[contract]

Highsmith getting $10-$15m would be lol

It would be lol ... as long as it's not from us.

[Flash4thewin]

Who's giving the Cavs a better offer then then Herro + Jamie + 2024 #15 pick + 2030 pick?

Mitchell
Duncan
Jimmy
Jovic
Bam

Rozier 6th man scoring off the bench.

Really don't see what's not realisitc about this.

I do think we might need to trade Duncan for a better defender next to Mitchell, not sure who.

PS - I think Alondes Williams is going to suprise some people. He'll be the next Vincent (just different style).

The Nets can destroy that easily if they want to. If that’s the offer I can see the Knicks jumping in also.

It’s like we are forgetting Herro is a net negative not worth his contract and also has injury concerns. That is not a player someone wants, maybe next seasons if he’s healthy and if he has a good playoff his value changes but right now Herro doesn’t have much if any value. Then even if you magically ignore all of that, a Herro paring with Garland is not a good one defensively. So we would need another team that values Herro enough to give us assets to flip into a Mitchell trade.

[AirP.]

Was there mention of a S&T being an option to net a 2nd rounder?

Time for Cain. Raising Cain if you will.

3 & D dudes like Caleb, Haywood, DJJ on mavs, are good when they're on cheap contracts... Caleb making 7 and djj haywood making 2... when you start paying those dudes 10-15M per, that's when you're cooked and your roster has no chance.

Unless you're an elite version of those guys like Herbert Jones or OG, let them get overpaid by someone else and find the next one.

All role players are only valuable when on cheap contracts. Spending more than 5% of the cap on a non-starter quality role player is an error. Spending more than 10% on a starting quality role player is an error. When you go beyond that you get yourself into trouble.

People screw up when they worry about how much other teams are willing to pay guys rather than how easy/hard it will be to replace them and how much that would cost. A good rule of thumb is if every other team in the league has a guy just like him, don't pay him more than scraps.

Yes, just give J.Cain a 2-3-year minimum contract and just move forward.

[Lennyzinho]

Who's giving the Cavs a better offer then then Herro + Jamie + 2024 #15 pick + 2030 pick?

Mitchell
Duncan
Jimmy
Jovic
Bam

Rozier 6th man scoring off the bench.

Really don't see what's not realisitc about this.

I do think we might need to trade Duncan for a better defender next to Mitchell, not sure who.

PS - I think Alondes Williams is going to suprise some people. He'll be the next Vincent (just different style).

The Nets can destroy that easily if they want to. If that’s the offer I can see the Knicks jumping in also.

It’s like we are forgetting Herro is a net negative not worth his contract and also has injury concerns. That is not a player someone wants, maybe next seasons if he’s healthy and if he has a good playoff his value changes but right now Herro doesn’t have much if any value. Then even if you magically ignore all of that, a Herro paring with Garland is not a good one defensively. So we would need another team that values Herro enough to give us assets to flip into a Mitchell trade.

I think it was more of a "Who can give more than us that Donovan actually wants to go to and would still have a competitive roster when donovan gets there and that wants Donovan?" ... ofc there are tons of teams that can offer more.

Nets can beat that offer but then it's mikal and donovan and claxton and Ben simmons. And then they'd have no picks to improve. What is donovan winning there? And who wants to play for the nets?

Knicks want mikal to complete their Villanova crew ala Thanos and his gauntlet of infinity stones lmao. They don't want a ball dominant dude. Neither does OKC with SGA. OKC rumored to chase Hartenstein. Knicks want mikal or upgrade on randle. Mavs get away with two ball dominant guards cuz luka is 6'8 and kyrie has no problem deferring.

Donovan stays in Cleveland 40%... Miami 40%... Other 20% imo.

[twix2500]

Yall don't like the middle class