Official Immanuel Quickley Thread

[PushDaRock]

Another misread of the market by this management team. Should’ve signed him right after they traded for him. New York didn’t want to give him his number… That number was not 30 million. He would’ve taken his number at that time - which is now, no longer his number.

Even Pelton at ESPN is driving up Quickley’s price. Has him the #4 overall free agent. Right behind Maxey.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40223930/nba-free-agency-2024-ranking-top-20-players-available

What makes you think he would have taken the 25m with us that he wanted in the offseason? He had already increased his value by putting up the same 15 ppg on better efficiency in less minutes with the Knicks. He was coming in here with a chance to start, play big minutes and put up some big numbers. What incentive would he have to take an extension when the expectation would be that he increases his value and production with more opportunity here?

[douggood]

Another misread of the market by this management team. Should’ve signed him right after they traded for him. New York didn’t want to give him his number… That number was not 30 million. He would’ve taken his number at that time - which is now, no longer his number.

Even Pelton at ESPN is driving up Quickley’s price. Has him the #4 overall free agent. Right behind Maxey.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40223930/nba-free-agency-2024-ranking-top-20-players-available

What makes you think he would have taken the 25m with us that he wanted in the offseason? He had already increased his value by putting up the same 15 ppg on better efficiency in less minutes with the Knicks. He was coming in here with a chance to start, play big minutes and put up some big numbers. What incentive would he have to take an extension when the expectation would be that he increases his value and production with more opportunity here?

also IQ was not eligible to sign an extension mid season, there is deadline every season that players on rookie contracts can sign extension, its usually a few days before season starts.
when he did not sign with the knicks, he was destined to become a rfa.

https://www.nba.com/news/players-who-signed-rookie-extensions-before-2023-24-deadline

For players drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft, the deadline to sign rookie-scale contract extensions was 6 p.m. ET on Monday, Oct. 23.

[ForeverTFC]

Another misread of the market by this management team. Should’ve signed him right after they traded for him. New York didn’t want to give him his number… That number was not 30 million. He would’ve taken his number at that time - which is now, no longer his number.

Even Pelton at ESPN is driving up Quickley’s price. Has him the #4 overall free agent. Right behind Maxey.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40223930/nba-free-agency-2024-ranking-top-20-players-available

What makes you think he would have taken the 25m with us that he wanted in the offseason? He had already increased his value by putting up the same 15 ppg on better efficiency in less minutes with the Knicks. He was coming in here with a chance to start, play big minutes and put up some big numbers. What incentive would he have to take an extension when the expectation would be that he increases his value and production with more opportunity here?

also IQ was not eligible to sign an extension mid season, there is deadline every season that players on rookie contracts can sign extension, its usually a few days before season starts.
when he did not sign with the knicks, he was destined to become a rfa.

https://www.nba.com/news/players-who-signed-rookie-extensions-before-2023-24-deadline

For players drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft, the deadline to sign rookie-scale contract extensions was 6 p.m. ET on Monday, Oct. 23.

Yup. This was primarily why we were able to get IQ to begin with. Knicks would have been in a cap crunch with his $25m number and they knew he would get that (and likely more) from someone as an RFA. If he was extension eligible, of course the Raptors would have extended him if he was willing. Not sure what SharoneWright is talking about, but I guess it's the cool thing to dump on the FO these days for no reason.

[youngRAPZ]

What makes you think he would have taken the 25m with us that he wanted in the offseason? He had already increased his value by putting up the same 15 ppg on better efficiency in less minutes with the Knicks. He was coming in here with a chance to start, play big minutes and put up some big numbers. What incentive would he have to take an extension when the expectation would be that he increases his value and production with more opportunity here?

also IQ was not eligible to sign an extension mid season, there is deadline every season that players on rookie contracts can sign extension, its usually a few days before season starts.
when he did not sign with the knicks, he was destined to become a rfa.

https://www.nba.com/news/players-who-signed-rookie-extensions-before-2023-24-deadline

For players drafted in the 2020 NBA Draft, the deadline to sign rookie-scale contract extensions was 6 p.m. ET on Monday, Oct. 23.

Yup. This was primarily why we were able to get IQ to begin with. Knicks would have been in a cap crunch with his $25m number and they knew he would get that (and likely more) from someone as an RFA. If he was extension eligible, of course the Raptors would have extended him if he was willing. Not sure what SharoneWright is talking about, but I guess it's the cool thing to dump on the FO these days for no reason.

lol just another wah wah wah our front office is so terrible post with no facts

[TimeForChange]

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[XTC]

He's been fantastic in every game he has played so far this season. It's too bad he's been injured for majority of the season, because he's a treat to watch.

The thing I like most about Quickley since coming over is, hes a true floor general. Elite ball handling, shooting, and vision.

Ita crazy how fluid the offense looks when he's on the floor. I love his fit next to Scottie.

[Thaddy]

I want to see him shutdown opposing defenders. We can't have Dick, RJ, and him all being liabilities. One of them will eventually need to hit the bench, and that definitely isn't going to be Quickely.

I would guess we trade RJ and Dick is a 6th man until his defense and handles improve. IQ has incredible production. If RJ was out and IQ was in we would probably be competing for a play in position.

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Hopefully that top 5 pick comes in and produces. I would love to pick up a player like McNeely. It would give us an additional on ball creator. He's been putting up great stats in the L10 games.

We need to build in a way where 1-3 provides offense while 4-5 provide interior defense and forces bad 3pt shots. We would have to rely on that variance to win in the playoffs.

[LoveMyRaps]

If it wasn't for his injury, we'd be nowhere near the bottom of the standings and would likely be drafting in the 7-12 range.

[LoveMyRaps]

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[AHCanada]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

[DreamTeam09]

What I like most last night is that he kept his dribble alive all night last night. Either by a quick blow by and put the defender in jail, or some stutter steps and hesi's. He was picking up the ball killing his dirrble to make passes or not digging deep enough, last night he was much better keeping the ball

[XTC]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

I think his offball ability is a major strength for Quickley, it's why I love his fit with Scottie. He seems to be just as comfortable off the ball as he is on the ball.

[mademan]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

It'll be fine in the short term as Harper is 6'6 and should be able to play beside IQ. He'd have to get a lot better defensively for it to be a proper pairing long term tho. IQ, at his best, is a neutral defender who gives up size while Harper is nothing to be excited about on that end.

[ash_k]

If it wasn't for his injury, we'd be nowhere near the bottom of the standings and would likely be drafting in the 7-12 range.

We would be right up there with ATL ..core4 remains 7-7(8-6),including a chokejob loss at #1OKC, despite clear coaching-limitation.. ..posters that had us winning 20something games were just wishing for injuries(they got their wish)

[djsunyc]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

have no clue as i don't really watch ncaa stuff but i do know we were very successful playing both kyle + fred together.

[Godaddycurse]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

It'll be fine in the short term as Harper is 6'6 and should be able to play beside IQ. He'd have to get a lot better defensively for it to be a proper pairing long term tho. IQ, at his best, is a neutral defender who gives up size while Harper is nothing to be excited about on that end.

IQ is 6'3" with a 6'8" wingspan... how big do you expect PGs to be? he seems above average size wise

[Badonkadonk]

Another misread of the market by this management team. Should’ve signed him right after they traded for him. New York didn’t want to give him his number… That number was not 30 million. He would’ve taken his number at that time - which is now, no longer his number.

Even Pelton at ESPN is driving up Quickley’s price. Has him the #4 overall free agent. Right behind Maxey.
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40223930/nba-free-agency-2024-ranking-top-20-players-available

What makes you think he would have taken the 25m with us that he wanted in the offseason? He had already increased his value by putting up the same 15 ppg on better efficiency in less minutes with the Knicks. He was coming in here with a chance to start, play big minutes and put up some big numbers. What incentive would he have to take an extension when the expectation would be that he increases his value and production with more opportunity here?

The only misread is on RealGM, as usual. IQ's "massive contract" is misunderstood. It's a rare flat-value deal, meaning he gets $32.5M every year with no increases. This season, that's 23.12% of the cap, in the last year it's down to 15.8% of the cap.

It's the Raptors good fortune that the Knicks had just signed Brunson and it didn't make sense to throw another ~$30M at IQ (also the Raps good fortune that RJ was included and showed everybody that having him and Randle compete for the same space just limited his potential).

[mademan]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

It'll be fine in the short term as Harper is 6'6 and should be able to play beside IQ. He'd have to get a lot better defensively for it to be a proper pairing long term tho. IQ, at his best, is a neutral defender who gives up size while Harper is nothing to be excited about on that end.

IQ is 6'3" with a 6'8" wingspan... how big do you expect PGs to be? he seems above average size wise

I dont expect him to be bigger. Most pg's give up size. It's hard to be a good defensive team with 1 small guard and a shooting guard who's a poor defender (right now). Doesnt mean Harper cant improve but IQ, at his size, will likely never exert a strong defensive impact

[MEDIC]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

It'll be fine in the short term as Harper is 6'6 and should be able to play beside IQ. He'd have to get a lot better defensively for it to be a proper pairing long term tho. IQ, at his best, is a neutral defender who gives up size while Harper is nothing to be excited about on that end.

IQ is 6'3" with a 6'8" wingspan... how big do you expect PGs to be? he seems above average size wise

Same standing reach as Carrington & Nembhard....who are both considered taller PG's..

[Axe Dragon]

If we have a chance to draft Dylan Harper, how would the fit seem with IQ?

have no clue as i don't really watch ncaa stuff but i do know we were very successful playing both kyle + fred together.

The difference here is both Kyle and Fred are plus defenders… jury is out on both IQ and Harper on that end.

Axe


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