2024 NBA Draft Thread – (June 26 & 27)

[djFan71]

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How can you not love that kid ? So hyped he decided to stay at Saint Quentin next year and he'll bring a ton of attention to the league (and selfishly I'll get to see him play live at least once before he leaves for the NBA) like Risacher and Wemby before him.

Oui, s'il vous plait! Dude is fast with the ball. Alas, we aren't gonna be anywhere near that pick (hopefully). NBA Draft Room has him #1 international for next year:

https://nbadraftroom.com/utterly-premature-opinions-about-the-2025-nba-draft/

[Hal14]

Yeah it's pretty wild how France continues to pump out high quality basketball talent..

[Hal14]

Update..of who the Celtics have had in for a pre-draft workout. Ranked roughly in order of where they are on my big board (guys who withdrew are in random order tho)


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I do not think it's a coincidence that they brought both Newton and Karaban in..both guys who were starters on back to back national championship UConn team. Both guys who play hard, play winning basketball. I mean, that Uconn team these past 2 years was a machine..played with togetherness/connectivity..ran a NBA-style offense. They were very well coached..

Newton would be an interesting pick for us. I wouldn't hate it if it was in the mid to late 2nd round. He's a good player. Similar size to Jrue and White. He'd be a secondary ball handler, could play some PG. Can shoot a bit..good passer/playmaker, good feel for the game, can make hustle/energy plays, makes winning plays. Good (not great) defender. I could see him being a solid glue guy off the bench who could be a 4th guard..2nd guard off the bench (if Springer is gone by then) with upside to possibly end up being the 3rd guard (1st guard off the bench) long term if he really hits (and if 1 of pritchard, jrue or white is not here anymore)..

Meanwhile, Flowers would fit the profile Brad has gone for in the past 3 drafts (18 or 19 yr old kids with athleticism and upside). Flowers has already been discussed on here a bit - which is further proof that the Celtics scouting dept/front office reads this board

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Hal I appreciate you taking the time to find all the guys the Celtics have worked out. I'm sure it's time consuming and it's a hell of a lot more productive to the discussion here than me pumping up French prospects that are neither draft eligible for the year this thread is supposed to cover or available in a range where the Celtics can realistically acquire them

Sold on Newton at 54. The terrible physics puns alone I'll be able to get out of that selection would make it worth it.

[djFan71]

I could be on board with Newton at 54 as well. Esp now that Sallis is gone. I’ve been trying to see if I like Mitchell as a replacement, though. Flowers and Scheiermann seem like the 30 picks, tho who knows where either, esp Flowers goes,

[playa-hater]

I could be on board with Newton at 54 as well. Esp now that Sallis is gone. I’ve been trying to see if I like Mitchell as a replacement, though. Flowers and Scheiermann seem like the 30 picks, tho who knows where either, esp Flowers goes,

Scheiermann seems like a Utah pick..one ahead of us..

[djFan71]

I could be on board with Newton at 54 as well. Esp now that Sallis is gone. I’ve been trying to see if I like Mitchell as a replacement, though. Flowers and Scheiermann seem like the 30 picks, tho who knows where either, esp Flowers goes,

Scheiermann seems like a Utah pick..one ahead of us..

Fine by me if that means Tyson or Holmes fall to us.

[Hal14]

I could be on board with Newton at 54 as well. Esp now that Sallis is gone. I’ve been trying to see if I like Mitchell as a replacement, though.

If you're looking for a Sallis replacement (a wing who can shoot, create his own shot, has pretty good athleticism and decent size) one guy who's been growing on me is Jaylen Wells.

Taller and slightly younger than Sallis. Wells is an interesting prospect..played 2 years of D2 ball before transferring to Washington state for this season..so basically a junior but is still just 20 yrs old so a young junior.

So went from a guy no one really knew about (from playing D2 b all for 2 yrs) to now being on draft radars after having a strong season (12 PPG, but the PPG really picked up late in the season, including a 27 pt game vs Arizona, one of the best teams in college basketball..shot 41.7% from 3 on good volume).

He's a late bloomer, partly because of a growth spurt in HS. Was only 5'6" as a freshman, then 6'2" as a junior, 6'6" as a senior and is now 6'7.5".

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[jibba jones]

I feel like there is no way Brad adds a first round salary.
Whats the chance he makes the pick at 30? Less than 1%?

[djFan71]

I could be on board with Newton at 54 as well. Esp now that Sallis is gone. I’ve been trying to see if I like Mitchell as a replacement, though.

If you're looking for a Sallis replacement (a wing who can shoot, create his own shot, has pretty good athleticism and decent size) one guy who's been growing on me is Jaylen Wells.

Taller and slightly younger than Sallis. Wells is an interesting prospect..played 2 years of D2 ball before transferring to Washington state for this season..so basically a junior but is still just 20 yrs old so a young junior.

So went from a guy no one really knew about (from playing D2 b all for 2 yrs) to now being on draft radars after having a strong season (12 PPG, but the PPG really picked up late in the season, including a 27 pt game vs Arizona, one of the best teams in college basketball..shot 41.7% from 3 on good volume).

He's a late bloomer, partly because of a growth spurt in HS. Was only 5'6" as a freshman, then 6'2" as a junior, 6'6" as a senior and is now 6'7.5".

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Yeah, I was looking at him as well. Im in the PNW so have heard about him a little. Was thinking Sallis more as a combo guard than wing, though. But I can always grab a wing like Tyson or Bridges . Wells would be a little lower than either for me now. But at 54 if we haven’t picked a wing already he’s a possibility.

[djFan71]

I feel like there is no way Brad adds a first round salary.
Whats the chance he makes the pick at 30? Less than 1%?

Definitely a possibility or even a probability, but rookie scale for pick 30 is only $2M, so it’s pretty close to vet min.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I haven't watched all that many guys so far, but have started to check out a few per day. Anyway, so far the three guys I like best, and that have a reasonable chance of being available when we draft are Scheierman, Ingram, and Flowers. Would be good with any of them. Ingram seems like the most ready to contribute early on. Flowers probably has the most upside.

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Again, I wouldn't hate it if we grab this guy in the 2nd round.

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Watched a couple interviews with Ingram he’s actually a really engaging young guy. Comes across as very mature and really personable, good sense of humor.

[Hal14]

I feel like there is no way Brad adds a first round salary.
Whats the chance he makes the pick at 30? Less than 1%?

Definitely a possibility or even a probability, but rookie scale for pick 30 is only $2M, so it’s pretty close to vet min.

That salary goes up each year for 4 years though, right?

[Hal14]

My updated big board.

Rank Player
1 Rob Dillingham
2 Alexandre Sarr
3 Ron Holland
4 Zaccharie Risacher
5 Donovan Clingan
6 Matas Buzelis
7 Stephon Castle
8 Dalton Knecht
9 Cody Williams
10 Devin Carter
11 Reed Sheppard
12 Tyler Smith
13 Kel'el Ware
14 Nikola Topic
15 Kyle Filipowski
16 Nikola Djurisic
17 Tristan Da Silva
18 Isaiah Collier
19 Jaylon Tyson
20 Yves Missi
21 Tyler Kolek
22 Baylor Scheierman
23 Zach Edey
24 Jaylen Wells
25 Ja’Kobe Walter
26 KJ Simpson
27 Johnny Furphy
28 DaRon Holmes
29 Tidjane Salaun
30 Pacome Dadiet
31 Carlton Carrington
32 Jared McCain
33 Ryan Dunn
34 Harrison Ingram
35 Oso Ighodaro
36 PJ Hall
37 Reece Beekman
38 Jalen Bridges
39 Pelle Larsson
40 Tristen Newton
41 Keshad Johnson
42 Adem Bona
43 Kyshawn George
44 Kevin McCullar Jr
45 Juan Nunez
46 Enrique Freeman
47 Jonathan Mogbo
48 Isaiah Crawford
49 Trentyn Flowers
50 Anton Watson

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Some nice little details on this video towards the back end.

[playa-hater]

My updated big board.

Rank Player
1 Rob Dillingham
2 Alexandre Sarr
3 Ron Holland
4 Zaccharie Risacher
5 Donovan Clingan
6 Matas Buzelis
7 Stephon Castle
8 Dalton Knecht
9 Cody Williams
10 Devin Carter
11 Reed Sheppard
12 Tyler Smith
13 Kel'el Ware
14 Nikola Topic
15 Kyle Filipowski
16 Nikola Djurisic
17 Tristan Da Silva
18 Isaiah Collier
19 Jaylon Tyson
20 Yves Missi
21 Tyler Kolek
22 Baylor Scheierman
23 Zach Edey
24 Jaylen Wells
25 Ja’Kobe Walter
26 KJ Simpson
27 Johnny Furphy
28 DaRon Holmes
29 Tidjane Salaun
30 Pacome Dadiet
31 Carlton Carrington
32 Jared McCain
33 Ryan Dunn
34 Harrison Ingram
35 Oso Ighodaro
36 PJ Hall
37 Reece Beekman
38 Jalen Bridges
39 Pelle Larsson
40 Tristen Newton
41 Keshad Johnson
42 Adem Bona
43 Kyshawn George
44 Kevin McCullar Jr
45 Juan Nunez
46 Enrique Freeman
47 Jonathan Mogbo
48 Isaiah Crawford
49 Trentyn Flowers
50 Anton Watson

Seems like more are Not a fan of Dillingham as the top pick or even top 5 because of his short/slight frame and his perceived defensive weaknesses. He seems way more Lou Williams type that might excel as a 6th man rather than a starting PG. Defensive concerns aside, can he even run a team on the NBA level? Maybe... But I wouldn't use the Top pick for him. Don't think his ceiling is all that high..

[meatball sub]

the guy NBAdraft.net has projected at 3 has a comparison to Mike Miller lmfao. This draft is awful. I forgot we even had a 1st rounder this year.

[djFan71]

I feel like there is no way Brad adds a first round salary.
Whats the chance he makes the pick at 30? Less than 1%?

Definitely a possibility or even a probability, but rookie scale for pick 30 is only $2M, so it’s pretty close to vet min.

That salary goes up each year for 4 years though, right?

$2.293M by the 3rd year. 4th year goes up a lot. But you have options to decline all along.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/info/rookie_scale/2025

So, yeah, it’s a little more than vet min, but not a reason purely in its own to trade out. If you really like a guy, and he falls you can grab him. I think the scare applies a lot more on earlier picks. But with 30 it’s a pretty minor factor.

Oh, and most get signed for 120% of that. But again, not prohibitive where we’re picking.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

the guy NBAdraft.net has projected at 3 has a comparison to Mike Miller lmfao. This draft is awful. I forgot we even had a 1st rounder this year.

The 2020 NBA draft was supposed to be bad too. There are already two franchise guys (Edwards, Haliburton), two more all stars (Ball, Maxey), a bunch of plus starters (Bane, Vassell, Avdija, Quickley) and quite a few guys that play important roles on winning teams (Nesmith, Pritchard, Josh Green, Toppin...). On the other side, some of the more highly touted drafts like 2019 haven't exactly set the league on fire.