Official Trade Thread Part XLVI

[Rafael122]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

I like it!

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

I like it! Except salaries don't work.

[NatP4]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

I like it! Except salaries don't work.

That’s an insane overpay.

I think a straight up swap of Kuzma for Giddey is fair value.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

I like it! Except salaries don't work.

That’s an insane overpay.

I think a straight up swap of Kuzma for Giddey is fair value.

I've heard rumblings of Miami being interested in Kuzma... Do you think they'd do Robinson, Jovic, 15 for Kuz?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8782288

[NatP4]

I’ve advocated for Jovic and that exact deal on a number of occasions. Sign me up.

15 gives you a great shot at our guy, Dadiet.

[Frichuela]

I like it! Except salaries don't work.

That’s an insane overpay.

I think a straight up swap of Kuzma for Giddey is fair value.

I've heard rumblings of Miami being interested in Kuzma... Do you think they'd do Robinson, Jovic, 15 for Kuz?

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8782288

I think they will try tooth and nail to exclude Jovic…but we should refuse in that scenario…

[SUPERBALLMAN]

That’s an insane overpay.

I think a straight up swap of Kuzma for Giddey is fair value.

I've heard rumblings of Miami being interested in Kuzma... Do you think they'd do Robinson, Jovic, 15 for Kuz?

I think they will try tooth and nail to exclude Jovic…but we should refuse in that scenario…

I also worked in flipping Robinson to SA for pick 35. Essentially we'd get Jovic, 15, 35 for Kuz.

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8782343

[NatP4]

The Portland board has us trading Deni and #26 for Jabari Walker, Cole Anthony, #14, and #34 LOL

[Dat2U]

Give me Giddey and this years 12th pick, plus Phillys '25 pick for Kuzma. Philly's pick is top 6 protected, they have a ton of cap room and are going to go for it so the pick will be in the teens.

I like it! Except salaries don't work.

That’s an insane overpay.

I think a straight up swap of Kuzma for Giddey is fair value.

I'd much rather have a pick than an accused pedo who's due a big pay day, but that's a personal preference

Even just looking at it from a basketball perspective, investing long term in a non-shooting, non-defender makes little sense.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I’ve advocated for Jovic and that exact deal on a number of occasions. Sign me up.

15 gives you a great shot at our guy, Dadiet.

So I'm now looking at it with Sarr at 2.

Everything I see shows Dadiet considerably lower, should still be there at 26. I might take a flier on Salaun if he's there at 15. (If its not Sarr at 2 I'm looking Ware or Missi at 15).

I might actually see if NY wants to move up (15 for 24 & 25). I'd have a field day Dadiet (24), Carrington (25), Cam Christie (26). At 35 I'll take Ryan Dunn. And lastly at 51 I'll go with Izan Almansa.

Roster:
C - Sarr, Vukcevic, Almansa
PF- Avdija, Bagley, Baldwin
SF- Jovic, Dunn, Dadiet
SG- Coulibaly, Kispert, Christie
PG- Poole, Butler, Carrington

Let the rebuild commence!

Alright, build that roster, give it a year under Keefe to develop and team build. And then drop in Cooper Flagg.

[dckingsfan]

The Portland board has us trading Deni and #26 for Jabari Walker, Cole Anthony, #14, and #34 LOL

Yeah... that is pretty funny.

[penbeast0]

Unless you think Deni has another increase n performance in him the size of the one last year, I could see trading Deni and #26 to Atlanta for the #1 pick and building around Sarr and Risacher the way Orlando has built around Banchero and Wagner. Deni's an excellent fit with them. We deal the sure thing for the high end risk, they deal the risk for the sure thing.

[prime1time]

Tbh, OKC simply has too much ammunition for them not to be the team we trade Kuz to if we are looking to move him and they are interested. It's interesting that Kuz chose not to go to Dallas, but perhaps he knew that with Doncic and Kyrie, there wouldn't be any space for him to do anything offensively. The fit with Holmgren in OKC is much better imo. With Holmgren lifting the defense, Kuz can do what he does best, attack downhill. Hopefully the rest of the offensive skill will curb his shot happy nature. Giddey after all of the craziness and a playoff performance when he was benched has no value imo.

Two frp's for Kuz match contracts and Giddey thrown in. If it's gets into a bidding war, maybe OKC throws in an extra first that's far out. They have so many.

[prime1time]

Unless you think Deni has another increase n performance in him the size of the one last year, I could see trading Deni and #26 to Atlanta for the #1 pick and building around Sarr and Risacher the way Orlando has built around Banchero and Wagner. Deni's an excellent fit with them. We deal the sure thing for the high end risk, they deal the risk for the sure thing.

If you look at Avdija's last set games his numbers climbed up even higher. If we trade Kuz I'd keep Avdija and see what he can do in that style of offense.

[penbeast0]

If you look at Avdija's last set games his numbers climbed up even higher. If we trade Kuz I'd keep Avdija and see what he can do in that style of offense.

I keep him unless I'm blown away by an offer, but the #1 pick in even an iffy draft like this one is a real chance at getting an NBA star. Maybe Sarr and Risacher make it and maybe they don't but I think Deni will top out as a very good player but I don't think he's the star you need in the NBA.

Also, he'll be a much better player next year than either Sarr or Risacher so we should get a top 3 pick (if we don't get foul luck) in a year where the top players are more highly rated. We should be bottom feeders either way but I've seen too many rebuilds cut short to aim for the bottom of the playoffs.

[nate33]

The Portland board has us trading Deni and #26 for Jabari Walker, Cole Anthony, #14, and #34 LOL

It's so tedious reading through these Deni fantasy trades from other teams. IT'S NOT EFFING HAPPENING!

[nate33]

Unless you think Deni has another increase n performance in him the size of the one last year, I could see trading Deni and #26 to Atlanta for the #1 pick and building around Sarr and Risacher the way Orlando has built around Banchero and Wagner. Deni's an excellent fit with them. We deal the sure thing for the high end risk, they deal the risk for the sure thing.

That's a ridiculous standard. If Deni improved next year as much as he improved this year, he would be a top 10 player in this league and an All-NBA 2nd teamer. He'd be a younger, better Jaylen Brown.

I don't think Deni needs to improve at all to be a better prospect than Sarr. He just needs to maintain his play over the second half of this season. That guy is a #3 option on a good team. That's probably Sarr's absolute ceiling, and it's no sure bet he'll get there.

[nate33]

I don't recall if this trade has been discussed much, but I think a very plausible trade-down trade could be available with San Antonio.

I figure Sarr goes first (either Atlanta takes him or they trade out and someone else takes him).

San Antonio might really want Risacher at #2. They look to be angling to win now so they want a guy who is ready to play right away but also with some upside and Risacher makes good sense. (I think San Antonio wants Topic at #4 and isn't worried about Houston taking him.)

So San Antonio trades their #8 for our #2. What would they throw in?

They have their own pick in 2025, an unprotected ATL pick in 2025, a lotto protected CHA pick in 2025 (which turns into two SRP's in 2026) and a top 10 protected CHI pick in 2025. I think we can finagle that Atlanta pick straight up. Or maybe we work out some kind of deal where we get the best of those 4 picks that doesn't fall in the top 4, or something like that.

I like it because I think some good prospects will still be on the board at #8. I figure Sarr, Risacher and Topic will be gone. Clingan will be gone probably to Charlotte. Sheppard will go either to Houston or to Detroit if he lasts that long. So that still leaves at least one of Buzelis, Castle or Holland. And maybe two of three of them are there if Knecht or Dillingham go high.

But if we could turn #2 into Castle, Holland or Buzelis plus a pick likely to be in the 10-16 range next year, I'd definitely do it.

[mhd]

I don't recall if this trade has been discussed much, but I think a very plausible trade-down trade could be available with San Antonio.

I figure Sarr goes first (either Atlanta takes him or they trade out and someone else takes him).

San Antonio might really want Risacher at #2. They look to be angling to win now so they want a guy who is ready to play right away but also with some upside and Risacher makes good sense. (I think San Antonio wants Topic at #4 and isn't worried about Houston taking him.)

So San Antonio trades their #8 for our #2. What would they throw in?

They have their own pick in 2025, an unprotected ATL pick in 2025, a lotto protected CHA pick in 2025 (which turns into two SRP's in 2026) and a top 10 protected CHI pick in 2025. I think we can finagle that Atlanta pick straight up. Or maybe we work out some kind of deal where we get the best of those 4 picks that doesn't fall in the top 4, or something like that.

I like it because I think some good prospects will still be on the board at #8. I figure Sarr, Risacher and Topic will be gone. Clingan will be gone probably to Charlotte. Sheppard will go either to Houston or to Detroit if he lasts that long. So that still leaves at least one of Buzelis, Castle or Holland. And maybe two of three of them are there if Knecht or Dillingham go high.

But if we could turn #2 into Castle, Holland or Buzelis plus a pick likely to be in the 10-16 range next year, I'd definitely do it.

I wouldn't do that trade Nate. The going rate for trading within the top 5 is one future 1st (Philly & Boston (3 going to 1) in the Tatum/Simmons trade as well as Atlanta/Dallas (5 going to 3) in the Luka/Trae trade). The 2nd pick going to the 8th pick requires more than one future 1st. I'd be interested in trading down, but I'd need at least two future 1sts to go down from 2 all the way to 8.