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Re: 2024 WNBA Season Discussion Thread 

Post#221 » by TerrenceClarke » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:22 pm

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All of these people are f*cking pathetic, this is basketball. Leave the racism out of it. Was it a racial attack when Alyssa Thomas basically chokeslammed Angel in mid air like the Undertaker?

This stuff poisons everything and ruins the fun. I can't help but notice how people are doing everything that they can to spew toxicity around the women's game.

Last week Luka cussed out Rudy Gobert and was talking a ton of sh*t to Ant-Man as things got heated during Mavs/Wolves. Yet no one made it about race, because it's guys hooping and being competitive. Why is what's happening in the WNBA any different? Are people that triggered by seeing women being fierce competitors?



Yes because this was all started by this one moment.




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A large portion White America and casual BB fans who only started watching because of CC could not handle their princess being treated like this and it’s been a war since.

Let’s keep it 100%

Prior to this moment …..Angel and CC were not even connected.

If Ant Did this to Luka nobody would care.

All of this tension started a whole year prior, it just spilled into the wnba.


the undertone is that “they” need to kiss CC feet…. Which brings a whole new element to it.

The league is majority Black ….so we already know what the Drill is…


Clark and Reese's teams actually played three times before the Iowa-LSU national championship game, when Reese was at Maryland, with Maryland winning all three games. I've also seen mention of matchups going back to AAU. It's a longstanding rivalry.

Yeah, there's a lot of Clark stans who see Reese as a villain, no question.

As far as I'm concerned, and (as far as I can tell) also as far as the two women are concerned, they're just two competitive rivals playing basketball. It's a real competitive basketball rivalry, which is great, and it's unfortunate that a lot of people can't accept it and enjoy it for what it is.
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Even then they still was not connected. Nationally the were NOT connected. Saying anything else is just fabrication.

What you speak of Is some basic AAU class stuff. All AAU players have certain ‘rivalies’ they been playing each other for a while. They were NOT tied to the hip like they are since that moment.

Angel never does that….and it’s a whole different reality basically. It’s a huge what if….

Angel profile was always small in Maryland and in high school. When Angel was in Maryland she had no national buzz at all. She was not even the best player on the Maryland teams.Diamond Miller was,

Angel was a basic college forward untill she left Maryland

LSU put her on the Map. And the national spotlight. She became a ‘villain’ before she played against CC that year because she was called ‘ghetto’ for her just being competitive all year LSU. That’s why her profile started to rise because she was so feisty and people were not use to women being so competitive as her. LSU being so dominate that year also helped.

She was allowed to be herself which at Maryland she was not….its why she left. She felt she was bigger and she was proven right when she left. Many people thought Reese was dumb for leaving Maryland who already have a good program. She proved everyone wrong and became the national star she became that year.

This Championship Game moment is when Angel Reese truly became public enemy no 1 cause she showed up Clark. since that day Clark became the victim and Reese became Evil Reese. The disrespect that went her way since that moment was ridiculous. People felt so bad for Clark and wanted to make her some victim over basic basketball stuff….you got the damn White House inviting the LOSING team to the White House.smh.


They are tied from this moment and no other moment regardless of anything from Maryland days or AAU.

This was the date everything got set off and became a NATIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT RACE…

Many people still did not even know who Reese was cause it was what she did that made the situation a national topic. People learned about both of them from casuals simply for that moment cause it became a racial topic.
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Re: 2024 WNBA Season Discussion Thread 

Post#222 » by wojoaderge » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:25 pm

KennerLeaguer wrote:Bird and Magic was also very much divided more often than not by racial lines. To say otherwise

I didn't say otherwise
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Post#223 » by Billy Goat » Sun Jun 2, 2024 10:32 pm

TinmanZBoy wrote:Caitlin Clark’s game is fun to watch, but she has a long way to figure out how to be more effective in pro’s game… her turnovers are cringeworthy, do remind me linsanity and his turnovers… what is angel reese good for? Why wasn’t she selected No.2? Instead no.7… is it a real rivalry? Two players are not in the same status, not playing the same position either…


Yeah Clarke needs to slow down a bit. Her passing has looked good. Shots will eventually fall. Reese is not impressive at all. Very clumsy.
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Post#224 » by ellobo » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:06 pm

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TinmanZBoy wrote:Caitlin Clark’s game is fun to watch, but she has a long way to figure out how to be more effective in pro’s game… her turnovers are cringeworthy, do remind me linsanity and his turnovers… what is angel reese good for? Why wasn’t she selected No.2? Instead no.7… is it a real rivalry? Two players are not in the same status, not playing the same position either…


Yeah Clarke needs to slow down a bit. Her passing has looked good. Shots will eventually fall. Reese is not impressive at all. Very clumsy.


Reese is leading the whole league in offensive rebounds by a substantial margin (5.0 per game, which is 25% more than than anyone else, and has 30% more total offensive rebounds than anyone else). Offensive rebounding was her outstanding skill in college, and has translated to the WNBA at an elite level so far.
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Post#225 » by IlikeSHAIguys » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:08 pm

do wnba rookies usually have this hard of a time in their first year?
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Post#226 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:12 pm

IlikeSHAIguys wrote:do wnba rookies usually have this hard of a time in their first year?


She's averaging 17ppg 5rpg 6apg. Her hard time is still actually pretty good for a rookie but her efficiency is definitely something that is lagging behind.
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Post#227 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:16 pm

Whoo boy having to play the Liberty on the tail end of a B2B is brutal :lol:

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Post#228 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:17 pm

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Yep. It's crazy how Angel taunting CC made people go up in arms when CC literally did the same thing to Hailey Van Lith and no one cared. We know why, and it's gross.



That same stupid, false narrative that was pushed mostly by Black Twitter.

Yes, CC talks some trash and does some junk on the court at times. But she and Van Lith were buds who have been competitive with each other since high school. And when CC did her "can't see me move", she didn't get in the face of her opponent for taunting. She did it AWAY from her opponent, more towards the crowd. This is the exact opposite of AR who walked over to CC just to taunt her directly, pretty much chased her down. If you can't understand the difference you are being intentionally obtuse. It would be like Mutombo blocking a shot and then running down halfcourt to the opponent to wag his finger directly in front of him. That would have been taking his taunt to a worse level and people would have hated him for it.


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Post#229 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:18 pm

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sikma42 wrote:On top of the race issue, gender is playing a huge role. Also, the misogynoir from black men is on full display. It’s really making it less enjoyable to watch.


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Thank you. The misogyny and bigotry coming from other Black men has been appalling. Just say yall hate Black women and go back to watching the NBA. :noway: this stuff is aggravating me


Just admit you hate white females being celebrated and go back to watching tennis or gymnastics in which you won't have to worry about it now that black women have taken over. Because the attitude insecure black women have towards CC is not much different than how white people treated the Williams Sisters when they arrived on the scene.


Please provide a quote on this forum where I've disparaged CC. I'm literally defending her in this thread dude what are you on?
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Post#230 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:20 pm

I do think Clark's interest has been co-opted by racist white dudes and she should nip that in the bud with a statement before the snowball effect becomes too big. It sucks she has to deal with that aspect of it, but these are the times that we live in. If Eminem can do that with statements against Trump and lose a big chunk of his fanbase and still be fine, I think Clark will lose no sleep over racists championing her success.

Just search "WNBA racism" and how many delusional users are wanting her to join or make her "own league" (which would have way less Black women in it) lol. That isn't to say that the reactionary stuff isn't getting racial back in some ways, which is where it's getting ugly... there's a dynamic on each "side" of it. But there is a committed, vested interest particularly on one side.

On the flip side, she is getting cheap shotted by way less talented players and her teammates definitely need to take things more personal when that happens. If they are on a garbage team and are a bad teammate while having Caitlin Clark on it, you will not survive a roster turnover.

It really has to do with her talent alone, and maybe she likes to talk trash too. Nothing wrong with that. There was never a racial component with Taurasi, Bird, Delle Donne, Stewart, Ionescu, etc.. so I don't know why there's arguments that there is now. Well, I do know, it's because these "fans" have never watched the WNBA until this year and see Caitlin Clark as some great white hope.
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Post#231 » by ellobo » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:24 pm

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IlikeSHAIguys wrote:do wnba rookies usually have this hard of a time in their first year?


She's averaging 17ppg 5rpg 6apg. Her hard time is still actually pretty good for a rookie but her efficiency is definitely something that is lagging behind.


She's definitely struggled with her shooting and turnovers, but she's still made enough threes and free throws to keep her overall efficiency respectable. She's actually 11th in the league in TS% among starting guards, which is admittedly worse than it sounds in a 12 team league, but still encouraging relative to her basic FG%.
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Post#232 » by TinmanZBoy » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:26 pm

On paper, the fevers has two no.1 picks, two no.2 picks, two no.4 picks in their lineup… but they are basically the worst team in the league… really puzzling…
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Post#233 » by IlikeSHAIguys » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:30 pm

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IlikeSHAIguys wrote:do wnba rookies usually have this hard of a time in their first year?


She's averaging 17ppg 5rpg 6apg. Her hard time is still actually pretty good for a rookie but her efficiency is definitely something that is lagging behind.

Would she have those numbers on a good team? You tend to score more on really bad teams right?
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Post#234 » by wojoaderge » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:40 pm

JJ's fadeaway is a thing of beauty. A shot that's basically disappeared from the NBA except for beating the shot clock.
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Post#235 » by wojoaderge » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:44 pm

SOUL wrote:she is getting cheap shotted by way less talented players

I hope you're not describing Chennedy Carter here
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Post#236 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:50 pm

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SOUL wrote:she is getting cheap shotted by way less talented players

I hope you're not describing Chennedy Carter here


TBF I have only followed loosely the last 5-10 years. I looked at her stats and since the WNBA stats are all weird and out of order I thought I read "2.3 ppg" :lol: Looks like she was pretty damn good on the Dream. Less minutes the last few years (not sure why) but way better than I thought.
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Post#237 » by Billy Goat » Sun Jun 2, 2024 11:56 pm

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TinmanZBoy wrote:Caitlin Clark’s game is fun to watch, but she has a long way to figure out how to be more effective in pro’s game… her turnovers are cringeworthy, do remind me linsanity and his turnovers… what is angel reese good for? Why wasn’t she selected No.2? Instead no.7… is it a real rivalry? Two players are not in the same status, not playing the same position either…


Yeah Clarke needs to slow down a bit. Her passing has looked good. Shots will eventually fall. Reese is not impressive at all. Very clumsy.


Reese is leading the whole league in offensive rebounds by a substantial margin (5.0 per game, which is 25% more than than anyone else, and has 30% more total offensive rebounds than anyone else). Offensive rebounding was her outstanding skill in college, and has translated to the WNBA at an elite level so far.


She’s useless offensively though. Perhaps a Rodman, but unlikely.
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Post#238 » by ellobo » Mon Jun 3, 2024 12:57 am

ellobo wrote:
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IlikeSHAIguys wrote:do wnba rookies usually have this hard of a time in their first year?


She's averaging 17ppg 5rpg 6apg. Her hard time is still actually pretty good for a rookie but her efficiency is definitely something that is lagging behind.


She's definitely struggled with her shooting and turnovers, but she's still made enough threes and free throws to keep her overall efficiency respectable. She's actually 11th in the league in TS% among starting guards, which is admittedly worse than it sounds in a 12 team league, but still encouraging relative to her basic FG%.


Spoke too soon. 1-10 against the Liberty.
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Post#239 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Jun 3, 2024 1:29 am

RIP Caitlin Clark hype.

Seems like she's in the news for other reasons aka females hating on her more than her actual game and impact.
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Post#240 » by TerrenceClarke » Mon Jun 3, 2024 1:59 am

The plot thickens…. Was this a basketball play?

CC is looking like a cry baby. She can’t bring the same energy in the W so she acts like she don’t know what’s going on.

The queen CC was pushed on the floor by a ‘thug’ from the SKY. OMG ring the alarm.




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