The Official 2024 Offseason Thread

[Stix]

The option wasn’t Beal or some awesome wing/big.
We turned a negative contract (CP3) who was becoming unplayable into a UNTRADEABLE OVERPAID ROLEPLAYER.

FTFY

Beal is much more then a role player lol.

[Stix]

FTFY

Beal is much more then a role player lol.

"Borderline All-star"

[Stix]

Beal is much more then a role player lol.

"Borderline All-star"

[bwgood77]

The only people who think Beal is good or has positive trade value is 2-3 fans on this forum. And none of the 2-3 fans are GMs of any other NBA team, so no, nobody would trade for Beal.

Even if it was legal and possible, and Ishbia offered another team like 5% stake in the Suns to take on Bradley Beal’s contract, no other team would do it.

Beal is very good…. Just paid a lot. Even with his limited role, not a lot of guys put up the same numbers he did last year

I agree, anyone who says he is bad at basketball is silly and worth not paying attention to for other basketball thoughts. He is just not worth his current contract. THERE IS A DIFFRENCE!!! The man averaged 18 points 4 boards and 5 assists in an unfamiliar and ever changing role with a rollercoaster coaching year apparently. Shot 51 percent from two and 43 percent from 3. To label him trash is kinda crazy. He was even a positive person to the team chemistry, what in the hell are people tripping about? He deserves at least another year of fitting in with hopefully a system that may help..... MAYBE?!?!

Yeah, not worth his contract, but still only a handful put up his #s, and even in the playoffs he averaged 16.5 ppg, over 4.5 apg, 43.5% from 3, was our best player in game 3, scoring 28, hitting 6 3s at 54.5%. In the first game, he was 6-10, while Book was 5-16. We just never had all our players playing good in the same games.

Certainly better than keeping Paul and Shamet, or getting Jordan Poole, or getting no one since we were over the cap even had we kept Paul/Shamet and let them expire. I know most understand this except 2-3 overly excessive Beal bashers on the board for whatever reason. His contract doesn't really matter since we were over the cap without him. He's not tradeable but our team was MUCH better with him on the floor and anyone else we could have gotten for the negative contracts of Paul and Shamet were untradeable too. It's not like giving up 4 unprotected picks, an unprotected swap, Bridges, Cam and Crowder for a 35 year old player who had averaged like 45 games a year the previous 4 years or whatever.

And he was a scoring leader just a few years ago and all nba player before his injury that kept him out much of the next season.

[bwgood77]

"Borderline All-star"

3 time all star who had his highest TS% and 3pt% this year, scoring his near career average.

[Stix]

Any time you have to pre-empt your post with "When healthy..." is a pretty obvious red flag.

[Kyler Murray]

This Beal hate reminds me of the good Ole Ayton Years. How soon we forget the trash teams we rolled with, we need a Ulis, Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Marquesse Chris kind of team again so maybe you'll appreciate an actual nba talent more then.

[Stix]

Trying to find how many All-Star votes Brad Beal got this year. Yes, I did google this but couldn't find anything? And Chat GPT doesn't do anything for recent years. Any help is much appreciated.

[Fo-Real]

This Beal hate reminds me of the good Ole Ayton Years. How soon we forget the trash teams we rolled with, we need a Ulis, Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Marquesse Chris kind of team again so maybe you'll appreciate an actual nba talent more then.

We had joke seasons where playoffs talk was **** hilarious!!! But you have people saying they are dying the last couple years and thinking of jumping ship...... BRO!!! I remember such **** phrases like "Earl **** Clark has a chance to be good"! These are not our darkest days gentlemen!!!

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

This Beal hate reminds me of the good Ole Ayton Years. How soon we forget the trash teams we rolled with, we need a Ulis, Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Marquesse Chris kind of team again so maybe you'll appreciate an actual nba talent more then.

We had joke seasons where playoffs talk was **** hilarious!!! But you have people saying they are dying the last couple years and thinking of jumping ship...... BRO!!! I remember such **** phrases like "Earl **** Clark has a chance to be good"! These are not our darkest days gentlemen!!!

Maybe, but look to the horizon. I don't think it's ever been so dim.

Maybe Tyler Kolek is Steve Nash reincarnate, and we can trade him for a pick that becomes Shawn Marion reincarnate, then re-sign Nash incarnate as a free agent. Maybe the board of governors will get rid of the salary cap and let Ishbia go nuts. Anything can happen, I guess. But no matter what fantasies I entertain for our future, I think Wemby's gonna lock the rest of the western conference from reaching the finals for a decade more beginning around 2027. So what's the point of even having draft picks or talent? Might as well spend every last dollar trying to squeeze some rings out of this franchise before the Sun sets and the long night begins.

[Puff]

I cannot see any trade that we could make for any of the big three that would make us better next year. Maybe in a few years if we could obtain draft capital. No one is going to give us anyone as good as KD, Book or Beal if we trade any of them. We will get a collection of unwanted and underperformers and a few questionable late draft picks. I also doubt we will improve our team if we trade Nurkic.

I am still excited about our team for next year. We have a new coach that it appears is going to change things in a big way. I do not think our starting five is as bad as they performed in the playoffs last year. Hopefully we can keep Bol Bol and if Gordon can recover his game under Bud along with O'Neale on a new contract our bench could be pretty good.

I also see a decent back-up point guard coming to us for the minimum along with a potentially high upside 4/5 coming via our 22nd pick.

I am far more worried about our country if the convict gets elected than the future of Suns Basketball.

Sorry about the political statement but Washington is a freaking mess.

[Fo-Real]

Lost in all that Bron and Bronny crap was the James Harden decision. What is he gonna do?

[Ghost of Kleine]

This Beal hate reminds me of the good Ole Ayton Years. How soon we forget the trash teams we rolled with, we need a Ulis, Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Marquesse Chris kind of team again so maybe you'll appreciate an actual nba talent more then.

We had joke seasons where playoffs talk was **** hilarious!!! But you have people saying they are dying the last couple years and thinking of jumping ship...... BRO!!! I remember such **** phrases like "Earl **** Clark has a chance to be good"! These are not our darkest days gentlemen!!!

Maybe, but look to the horizon. I don't think it's ever been so dim.

Maybe Tyler Kolek is Steve Nash reincarnate, and we can trade him for a pick that becomes Shawn Marion's reincarnate, then re-sign Nash reincarnate as a free agent. Maybe the board of governors will get rid of the salary cap and let Ishbia go nuts. Anything can happen, I guess. But no matter what fantasies I entertain for our future, I think Wemby's gonna lock the rest of the Western Conference from reaching the finals for a decade more beginning around 2027. So what's the point of even having draft picks or talent? Might as well spend every last dollar trying to squeeze some rings out of this franchise before the Sun sets and the long night begins.

It's funny that you mention Kolek potentially being Nash incarnate man because this locked-on NBA podcast was discussing DaRon Holme's ultimate upside (IF he somehow gets in the gym and on a professional strength training program to fill out his upper body with more muscle) being Amare Stoudamire. So If we could somehow end up with two picks in the mid-late 20s, then maybe we could draft BOTH Kolek and Holmes and then ironically have a low-end budget version of Nah and Amare again!

Of course, Ryan Dunn is very much the low-end budget equivalent of Shawn Marion defensively and in terms of athleticism.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=ryan-dunn--shawn-marion

So we could (IF creative) fill out our core around Booker with the dollar store versions of our favorite 7 seconds or less players from this draft.....LOL. FWIW, I see Kolek as more of a McConnell archetype, and Holmes as a low-end power forward version of Jarrett Allen, or maybe a more mobile better defensive version of Bobby Portis? But it'd be somewhat entertaining to try and recreate those endearing fan faves of old again!

[Saberestar]

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[Qwigglez]

Maybe it's just me, but I do not like to be in Arizona during the summer.

[mkot]

Trying to find how many All-Star votes Brad Beal got this year. Yes, I did google this but couldn't find anything? And Chat GPT doesn't do anything for recent years. Any help is much appreciated.

Here you go:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/allstar/NBA_2024_voting-backcourt-western-conference.html

Rank 21 among West guard behind guys like Mike Conley, Desmond Bane, Fred VanVleet,Jordan Clarkson, Jalen Green...

[dremill24]

Maybe it's just me, but I do not like to be in Arizona during the summer.

Its a little rough

[Revived]

The only people who think Beal is good or has positive trade value is 2-3 fans on this forum. And none of the 2-3 fans are GMs of any other NBA team, so no, nobody would trade for Beal.

Even if it was legal and possible, and Ishbia offered another team like 5% stake in the Suns to take on Bradley Beal’s contract, no other team would do it.

Beal is very good…. Just paid a lot. Even with his limited role, not a lot of guys put up the same numbers he did last year

Too bad we can’t convince anyone else outside of Suns fans that.

And you’re really only as good as your contract deems you to be.

So while Beal isn’t an awful player, he’s one of the worst assets in all of North American sports (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL combined) because of that contract.

[Revived]

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Would definitely do this from our end. But yeah based off comments, Warriors fans hate it lol

[Crives]

The only people who think Beal is good or has positive trade value is 2-3 fans on this forum. And none of the 2-3 fans are GMs of any other NBA team, so no, nobody would trade for Beal.

Even if it was legal and possible, and Ishbia offered another team like 5% stake in the Suns to take on Bradley Beal’s contract, no other team would do it.

Beal is very good…. Just paid a lot. Even with his limited role, not a lot of guys put up the same numbers he did last year

Too bad we can’t convince anyone else outside of Suns fans that.

And you’re really only as good as your contract deems you to be.

So while Beal isn’t an awful player, he’s one of the worst assets in all of North American sports (NBA, NHL, MLB and NFL combined) because of that contract.

Yes if you are an owner that cares about staying under the tax…. Beal making 50 vs 30 doesn’t make much difference for our current owner.