2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Masai…

God it is going to happen! Why can't we fast forward to 2025 already.

Quickley
Barrett
Flagg
Barnes
Edey

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[Jerry Lucas]

I think Kel'el Ware could end up being this year's Jalen Johnson, in relation to perceived character/work ethic/effort issues pre-draft.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I think Kel'el Ware could end up being this year's Jalen Johnson, in relation to perceived character/work ethic/effort issues pre-draft.

It’s funny because I had Jalen Johnson 4th on my board behind Cade, Scottie, and Mobley. And this year I REALLY want us to take Ware.

[Psubs]

Anyone know if we've worked out or scouted Scheiermann? He's not really on my board but I could see Masai thinking he would fit well in Darko's system with his shooting, size, IQ, and live dribble passing.

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I can’t believe I never checked his HLs before but he looks great lol like he just instantly became my favourite at 31 lol although I don’t think he makes it there.

I was just listening to the No Ceilings podcast and they say there are rumblings he goes late 1st. I like the way he reads the game to the point I actually might even be mad if we took him at 19.

So far I’m liking him, Mitchell or Kolek with that 31st (in that order)…it’s kinda crazy that all 3 seem like higher bball IQ players that just lack the great physical traits but could turn out to be steals. I don’t obv mean stars or anything but I could see any of them be incredibly solid rotation players and that’s all you can ask for in the 2nd round.

Scheierman is fun, he never lets nerves get to him. He just goes out there and plays the game and fears nothing.

He looks like the SG version of Luke Kennard with better playmaking skills. I'd be down at #31, but I don't see how the Celtics would pass on him.

[Indeed]

Tbh I don't see the Knicks taking Dunn. Or any rookie in this draft for that matter. They've got 3 picks in this draft alone and a veteran stacked roster with guys who can very easily be packaged for a star like Jimmy Buckets. If ever there was a year for them to go all-in, this would be it.

I think Edey can be a star in the NBA. Who is going to stop him?

The pick and roll because he can't defend it.

No way LA takes Bronny at 17. He may very well end up there, but they'd at least try to save some money.

Trading down to 24+25 with the Knicks is right there.

Not really the Pick and Roll. And Edey is longer (wingspan) than Gobert, so I am not surprised Edey would have similar impact on defense.

The biggest problem is probably transition, and we need to play in a slow pace, which may not be our system.

[WuTang_CMB]

I can’t believe I never checked his HLs before but he looks great lol like he just instantly became my favourite at 31 lol although I don’t think he makes it there.

I was just listening to the No Ceilings podcast and they say there are rumblings he goes late 1st. I like the way he reads the game to the point I actually might even be mad if we took him at 19.

So far I’m liking him, Mitchell or Kolek with that 31st (in that order)…it’s kinda crazy that all 3 seem like higher bball IQ players that just lack the great physical traits but could turn out to be steals. I don’t obv mean stars or anything but I could see any of them be incredibly solid rotation players and that’s all you can ask for in the 2nd round.

Scheierman is fun, he never lets nerves get to him. He just goes out there and plays the game and fears nothing.

He looks like the SG version of Luke Kennard with better playmaking skills. I'd be down at #31, but I don't see how the Celtics would pass on him.

denver 0r minny'... hits 3's insane clip and rebounds

[WuTang_CMB]

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[wegotthabeet]

I think Kel'el Ware could end up being this year's Jalen Johnson, in relation to perceived character/work ethic/effort issues pre-draft.

It’s funny because I had Jalen Johnson 4th on my board behind Cade, Scottie, and Mobley. And this year I REALLY want us to take Ware.

who are your top 4 this year?

[PhilBlackson]

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Just got the scoop on Dink Pate…he’s officially ineligible.

[DreamTeam09]

What if a big isn't on board at 19, do we go wing wing, guard wing. I'm watching Colorado vs California, De Silva & Tyson went at it. Those two to our mix would be cool.

[CazOnReal]

What if a big isn't on board at 19, do we go wing wing, guard wing. I'm watching Colorado vs California, De Silva & Tyson went at it. Those two to our mix would be cool.

Wing, guard and then probably see if we can sign Jalen Smith in free agency.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I think Kel'el Ware could end up being this year's Jalen Johnson, in relation to perceived character/work ethic/effort issues pre-draft.

It’s funny because I had Jalen Johnson 4th on my board behind Cade, Scottie, and Mobley. And this year I REALLY want us to take Ware.

who are your top 4 this year?

This year is definitely tougher for me. Right now I’m going with Sarr, Buzelis, and then pick 2 between Carter, Sheppard, and Castle.

[S.W.A.N]

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Just got the scoop on Dink Pate…he’s officially ineligible.

Good. we only wanted him eligible when we had a potential top 6 pick. just makes next year deeper now

[CPT]

Re: age concerns about draft picks.

Sure, the idea that guys have more upside when they are younger is valid. You also want to be careful if a guy is 23 and beasting on 18 and 19 year olds. However, guys still have plenty of upside at 22 and 23.

To the people wanting to avoid 22 and 23 year olds, look at our team right now.

Scottie Barnes, 22 (23 in August)
Immanuel Quickley, 24 (25 in a few days)
RJ Barrett, just turned 24

If those guys don't have a lot of upside left, we're **** cooked anyway. Especially the latter two (though honestly, if Scottie sticks at fringe All-Star instead of All-NBA mainstay, we're still **** cooked).

While most of us want to tank next year, we also probably don't want to wait around for 3+ years for a 19 year old to be productive.

[OAKLEY_2]

What if a big isn't on board at 19, do we go wing wing, guard wing. I'm watching Colorado vs California, De Silva & Tyson went at it. Those two to our mix would be cool.

If we draft position as priority we are crazy. Raptors love Poetl but if Edey is there I bet they take him cause he is Edey beast with insane college accolades not because he's a 5. I also think in general terms if there is a 2-3, 4-5 or 3-4 to be had they will be looking at players with age upside and with 3 and hopefully d potential. Tyson is a strong possibility at 19. Collier, a point guard, if falling to 19, has to be a huge consideration as seizing an opportunity. He is a 6'4 downhill tank. He's a 19 year old. Bub Carrington another guard is 18 with insane slashing and creation. Da Silva is 23, a nice player that a Philly or Miami will take. Not the Raptors. Tyson might truly be "the guy" here. I do not see them taking Ware or Missi. If Topic were to fall to 19? I think they takre him but not over Edey. Of this group only Tyson is a sure thing to be there. Other sure things to be there at 19. DaRon Holmes. Adding in 31 this draft could well be: Jaylon Tyson/Jonathan Mogbo, DaRon Holmes/Jonathan Mogbo, Isaiah Collier/Jonathan Mogbo.

[CazOnReal]

What if a big isn't on board at 19, do we go wing wing, guard wing. I'm watching Colorado vs California, De Silva & Tyson went at it. Those two to our mix would be cool.

If we draft position as priority we are crazy.

This is not the draft where the talent level is all that notable for going the BPA route between picks, say, 15 thru 25, because all the prospects in that range have very notable flaws and very few have significant, star level upside.

There isn't even a consensus "Best player available" to go 1st, let alone who's going to be a late first rounder.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Re: age concerns about draft picks.

Sure, the idea that guys have more upside when they are younger is valid. You also want to be careful if a guy is 23 and beasting on 18 and 19 year olds. However, guys still have plenty of upside at 22 and 23.

To the people wanting to avoid 22 and 23 year olds, look at our team right now.

Scottie Barnes, 22 (23 in August)
Immanuel Quickley, 24 (25 in a few days)
RJ Barrett, just turned 24

If those guys don't have a lot of upside left, we're **** cooked anyway. Especially the latter two (though honestly, if Scottie sticks at fringe All-Star instead of All-NBA mainstay, we're still **** cooked).

While most of us want to tank next year, we also probably don't want to wait around for 3+ years for a 19 year old to be productive.

I pretty much think we have to put a pause on analyzing past success/failure based on age of entry into the league. The NCAA rules have changed and players change teams frequently now, and of course the NIL incentivizes players to stay in school. The whole 5h year senior impact is too new to really weigh in on.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: age concerns about draft picks.

Sure, the idea that guys have more upside when they are younger is valid. You also want to be careful if a guy is 23 and beasting on 18 and 19 year olds. However, guys still have plenty of upside at 22 and 23.

To the people wanting to avoid 22 and 23 year olds, look at our team right now.

Scottie Barnes, 22 (23 in August)
Immanuel Quickley, 24 (25 in a few days)
RJ Barrett, just turned 24

If those guys don't have a lot of upside left, we're **** cooked anyway. Especially the latter two (though honestly, if Scottie sticks at fringe All-Star instead of All-NBA mainstay, we're still **** cooked).

While most of us want to tank next year, we also probably don't want to wait around for 3+ years for a 19 year old to be productive.

At the same time 22 year old Scottie 3 years into the NBA being put into the NCAA now would average a 20+ point triple double. There are some 21-23 year olds in this draft who are putting up mid numbers against kids

[Indeed]

Players invited to green room (assume most of them would be picked before 19)
first wave:
Zaccharie Risacher
Alex Sarr
Donovan Clingan
Reed Sheppard
Matas Buzelis
Stephon Castle
Dalton Knecht
Tidjane Salaun
Ron Holland
Cody Williams
Devin Carter
Ja'Kobe Walter
Rob Dillingham
second wave:
Nikola Topic
Jared McCain
Johnny Furphy
Kyshawn George
Kyle Filipowski
Isaiah Collier
Yves Missi
Zach Edey

I assume if we missed our guy on second wave, we might have Jaylon Tyson on our list.

[OakleyDokely]

In terms of age, you have to factor in experience level. A 22 year old whose been playing basketball since he was 14 is different than a 22 year old whose been playing since he was 4.