Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[Mik317]

Surround your stars with big athletic guys that are willing shooters.

If you're underwhelmed by Miles Bridges and Kelly Oubre as a wing tandem, look at PJ Washington and Derrick Jones in Dallas.

PJ being a no show in the finals kinda killed them no? (didn't watch for salt reasons lol)

[Kobblehead]

Bridges feels like the big man version of Oubre in terms of impact, ceiling, and expectations in a competitive Playoff series. Not a guy who will deliver what's necessary as your third best player.

Yeah and the same could have been said about Andrew Wiggins, but then he went and delivered in Golden State.

[Negrodamus]

We have to get Jalen Smith. That's my non-star signing that I think is extremely important as he has experience playing next to a C while also playing minutes as a C. He's an excellent rebounder when given minutes. Can serve as the rebounder when Embiid contests shots.

If we do the Ingram route:

Maxey
Ingram
Oubre (or maybe a better shooter)
Smith
Embiid

I'd be fine with that starting lineup, two bigs who can run the PnR and hit from outside.

[GoSixersBro]

Surround your stars with big athletic guys that are willing shooters.

If you're underwhelmed by Miles Bridges and Kelly Oubre as a wing tandem, look at PJ Washington and Derrick Jones in Dallas.

I can't put much stock in one Finals run. Ultimately those two didn't help Dallas even get close to challenging Boston.

[GoSixersBro]

Bridges feels like the big man version of Oubre in terms of impact, ceiling, and expectations in a competitive Playoff series. Not a guy who will deliver what's necessary as your third best player.

Yeah and the same could have been said about Andrew Wiggins, but then he went and delivered in Golden State.

Laughable to compare plugging players into a solidified dynasty led by the great Stephen Curry and the hapless 76ers.

[Kobblehead]

Bridges feels like the big man version of Oubre in terms of impact, ceiling, and expectations in a competitive Playoff series. Not a guy who will deliver what's necessary as your third best player.

Yeah and the same could have been said about Andrew Wiggins, but then he went and delivered in Golden State.

Laughable to compare plugging players into a solidified dynasty led by the great Stephen Curry and the hapless 76ers.

The point is, Embiid/Maxey are one of the best homegrown tandems in the league. Put some damn athletes that can shoot around them for once. Bridges and Oubre meet the criteria. What's the alternative here? Getting some washed star who can't deliver? Trade for some unathletic mid-range scorer who looks high all the time? How is that any better?

[the_process]

We have to get Jalen Smith. That's my non-star signing that I think is extremely important as he has experience playing next to a C while also playing minutes as a C. He's an excellent rebounder when given minutes. Can serve as the rebounder when Embiid contests shots.

If we do the Ingram route:

Maxey
Ingram
Oubre (or maybe a better shooter)
Smith
Embiid

I'd be fine with that starting lineup, two bigs who can run the PnR and hit from outside.

They should be able to get Jalen Smith and Ingram, and squeeze KCP in there too. Should they want to.

[GoSixersBro]

Yeah and the same could have been said about Andrew Wiggins, but then he went and delivered in Golden State.

Laughable to compare plugging players into a solidified dynasty led by the great Stephen Curry and the hapless 76ers.

The point is, Embiid/Maxey are one of the best homegrown tandems in the league. Put some damn athletes that can shoot around them for once. Bridges and Oubre meet the criteria. What's the alternative here? Getting some washed star who can't deliver? Trade for some unathletic mid-range scorer who looks high all the time? How is that any better?

I ultimately agree with you and am more on board with a Bridges + Oubre over destroying our assets for PG/Butler/Ingram. I'm just underwhelmed by all paths. It's pessimism season over here and I'm pretty close to getting banished by this forum by FireMorey.

[the_process]

Yeah and the same could have been said about Andrew Wiggins, but then he went and delivered in Golden State.

Laughable to compare plugging players into a solidified dynasty led by the great Stephen Curry and the hapless 76ers.

The point is, Embiid/Maxey are one of the best homegrown tandems in the league. Put some damn athletes that can shoot around them for once. Bridges and Oubre meet the criteria. What's the alternative here? Getting some washed star who can't deliver? Trade for some unathletic mid-range scorer who looks high all the time? How is that any better?

Wrong question to ask.

Can you win with Embiid and Maxey as your best two players is the correct question.

[Stanford]

I ultimately agree with you and am more on board with a Bridges + Oubre over destroying our assets for PG/Butler/Ingram. I'm just underwhelmed by all paths. It's pessimism season over here and I'm pretty close to getting banished by this forum by FireMorey.

You're allowed to be pessimistic, you just have to be the right kind of pessimistic. Your deep resentment has to date all the way back to 2019.

[Mik317]

Laughable to compare plugging players into a solidified dynasty led by the great Stephen Curry and the hapless 76ers.

The point is, Embiid/Maxey are one of the best homegrown tandems in the league. Put some damn athletes that can shoot around them for once. Bridges and Oubre meet the criteria. What's the alternative here? Getting some washed star who can't deliver? Trade for some unathletic mid-range scorer who looks high all the time? How is that any better?

Wrong question to ask.

Can you win with Embiid and Maxey as your best two players is the correct question.

yes but it will take some **** no one can forsee at the moment to happen lol.

[Stanford]

Can you win with Embiid and Maxey as your best two players is the correct question.

That's the question no matter what move we make, unless you really believe that LeBron and Jimmy are getable.

[ProcessDoctor]

We have to get Jalen Smith. That's my non-star signing that I think is extremely important as he has experience playing next to a C while also playing minutes as a C. He's an excellent rebounder when given minutes. Can serve as the rebounder when Embiid contests shots.

If we do the Ingram route:

Maxey
Ingram
Oubre (or maybe a better shooter)
Smith
Embiid

I'd be fine with that starting lineup, two bigs who can run the PnR and hit from outside.

They should be able to get Jalen Smith and Ingram, and squeeze KCP in there too. Should they want to.

Ingram = $41 (trade kicker)
KCP = $15-17
Jalen = $8-10

$65 mil cap assuming the pick goes in the Ingram trade, so should be doable

[76thBearCub]

The absolute state of going back and forth in 100 page threads like "I'd rather sign bad option A than trade for bad option B".

It's so over.

Yeeeep

[ProcessDoctor]

Hollinger has KCP getting north of $20 mil and Melton getting $15 mil. Yuck.

[PhillyNj]

Hollinger has KCP getting north of $20 mil and Melton getting $15 mil. Yuck.

Melton isn’t worth 5 mil. Boy will they regret that signing.
The new Tobias.

[the_process]

Hollinger has KCP getting north of $20 mil and Melton getting $15 mil. Yuck.

I don't see either of those numbers.

If KCP is over 20M per, then Nurse and Gary Trent Jr. are going to have to hug it out.

[Negrodamus]

At this point, my ideal and realistic offseason would be:

Draft: Jared McCain, Harrison Ingram

Sign: DeMar DeRozan, KCP, Jalen Smith, Kyle Lowry, Nicolas Batum, Kelly Oubre

Maxey / Lowry or McCain
DeRozan / Oubre or McCain
KCP / Oubre / Council
Smith / Batum
Embiid / Smith or Reed

KCP kinda scares me as he's been spoon fed baskets by the best player in the NBA. Otherwise, plenty of size, switchability, and high quality role playing. We'd obviously have to add more to fill out the roster, but this makes a lot of sense without mortgaging the future. I think we'll come to appreciate the scoring jolt that McCain would add to this team.

[stormi]

Yea the thing about KCP is, who gets him the ball?

He was phenomenal as a relocation shooter and someone that was elite from the corners, but he's made his money playing alongside Lebron and then Jokic.

Would have been perfect with pre-brainrot Simmons or 2023 Harden.

[the_process]

We have to get Jalen Smith. That's my non-star signing that I think is extremely important as he has experience playing next to a C while also playing minutes as a C. He's an excellent rebounder when given minutes. Can serve as the rebounder when Embiid contests shots.

If we do the Ingram route:

Maxey
Ingram
Oubre (or maybe a better shooter)
Smith
Embiid

I'd be fine with that starting lineup, two bigs who can run the PnR and hit from outside.

They should be able to get Jalen Smith and Ingram, and squeeze KCP in there too. Should they want to.

Ingram = $41 (trade kicker)
KCP = $15-17
Jalen = $8-10

$65 mil cap assuming the pick goes in the Ingram trade, so should be doable

Ingram can waive his trade kicker.

I fully expect Ingram to be on the Cavs, though.