Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Darvin Returns

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

If you get Giannis on board, I would at least consider it. Could extend the window. No idea why the Spurs would do that when I think they add guys like Buzelis and Carter. They can still add a vet via a trade of future picks.

[midranger]

Saw a Wild proposal online

Dame
For
Keldon Johnson
Devonte Graham
Jeremy Sochan
#4
#8

What say y’all?

I just don't like any of those three Spurs players much at all. They all seem like guys who get stats simply because they get minutes. And the two picks aren't enough to overcome it.

That said, if SA wants to add another future pick unprotected......

I agree, it’s not great.

But what if you then…
Brook
#8
#23
For
Dejounte Murray

Murray
Johnson
Middleton
Giannis
Clingan (#4)

Dunno, just thinking out loud.

[emunney]

Saw a Wild proposal online

Dame
For
Keldon Johnson
Devonte Graham
Jeremy Sochan
#4
#8

What say y’all?

Only if we can turn 4 and 8 into Suggs and Mark Williams. Which we can't. And which the Bucks wouldn't do anyway.

[Badgerlander]

Read on Twitter

Not clear to me why the first tweeter thinks he'll be a vet minimum signing. Is Orlando not interested in keeping him? Surely there's more demand than that for a 24 year old center who held his own in starting 33 games for a playoff team. Even if it's like 2/8 or something.

He isn’t the only one saying it but you’re right. I am assuming that Goga won’t resign with the Magic because he is buried on their depth chart atm. We would have to hope he would do something like Bobby did in coming here and sell him on the starting role being his in a year

[paulpressey25]

But what if you then…
Brook
#8
#23
For
Dejounte Murray

Murray
Johnson
Middleton
Giannis
Clingan (#4)

Dunno, just thinking out loud.

Adding DeJounte brings in a starting 20ppg guard. Don't know what Clingan can do, but theoretically he replaces Brook to some extent. I'm intrigued.

[Ron Swanson]

The problem is that Keldon Johnson low-key sucks (classic puts up stats on a garbage team young dude). At least Vassell would give you a core guy (not a 2 but possibly a strong #3 type dude). Clingan just clogs the paint for Giannis and does nothing for your versatility on offense or defense, and Dejounte is just a worse version of prime Jrue in almost every way. Sorry, the B-grade version of the 2022 Bucks with worse coaching, worse spacing, and an older Middleton/Giannis is not a serious championship contending roster.

[Bernman]

"Murray's worse than Jrue in almost every way". What, is he going to post a mid instead of high 40's ts% in the playoffs? If he shoots in the mid 50's on volume, we have as good or better of a chance than we did in Jrue's yrs here. As a #2 option against Boston Murray averaged 23/7/7 on a ts% of 54. That's a lot better than Jrue gave us v. Boston (or other teams) which was 21/6/6 on crappy %'es. Posted a ts% of 46 those playoffs.

[Ron Swanson]

They can keep #8, Johnson, and Sochan and give us Vassell instead. Re-route #4 and Graham's non-guaranteed salary to Atlanta for Murray, do the Bobby for Nance + 21 trade, then use our own picks to stash some youth on the bench.

Murray
Vassell/Pat
Middleton
Giannis
Brook/Nance

Picks 21, 23, 33

Yeah, much better. At least that's a team that's serious about winning a title this year while also having the potential to extend the window a little further out.

[German Athens]

The problem is that Keldon Johnson low-key sucks (classic puts up stats on a garbage team young dude). At least Vassell would give you a core guy (not a 2 but possibly a strong #3 type dude). Clingan just clogs the paint for Giannis and does nothing for your versatility on offense or defense, and Dejounte is just a worse version of prime Jrue in almost every way. Sorry, the B-grade version of the 2022 Bucks with worse coaching, worse spacing, and an older Middleton/Giannis is not a serious championship contending roster.

I think Dejounte is likely an even worse version of the Eric Bledsoe we acquired from Phoenix.

[mlloyd10]

All three of those Spurs players are negative asset - Empty Stats guys...Keldon is the only one that could be a starter type player.

Now if its Vassell, Graham, Bassey, 2024 Tor 1st and 2026 unprotected 1st, im good.

[Ron Swanson]

The problem is that Keldon Johnson low-key sucks (classic puts up stats on a garbage team young dude). At least Vassell would give you a core guy (not a 2 but possibly a strong #3 type dude). Clingan just clogs the paint for Giannis and does nothing for your versatility on offense or defense, and Dejounte is just a worse version of prime Jrue in almost every way. Sorry, the B-grade version of the 2022 Bucks with worse coaching, worse spacing, and an older Middleton/Giannis is not a serious championship contending roster.

I think Dejounte is likely an even worse version of the Eric Bledsoe we acquired from Phoenix.

I'd say they're about equal impact/talent guys. Murray would be better for this version of the Bucks, but man, he's gotten really overrated really fast. I was excited about the idea of adding him to pair with Dame when his price was more realistic, but I guess the box stats and that All-Defense 2nd team spot from 6-years ago continue to do wonders for his perception.

[Milbucks96]

From what I’ve read from spurs and hawks fans, Murray isn’t even that good of a perimeter defender but more so a passing lane type of guy. And that’s when he’s trying which isn’t so often anymore. A capable defender (again, when trying) would still help but he’s not the two way guy people think he is.

He’s just a name at this point, don’t think he’s a needle mover unless he’s your 4th guy or something like that

[Frank Nova]

Bucks out - Pat C, 23, 33

Bucks in - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls out - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls in - Pat C, 23, 33

I’d consider this but I’d also be a little hesitant. My man Tristen Newton could be the 33rd pick and certainly has a chance to carve out a similar type of role to Ayo.. But the established guy could be the difference in a late title run this season. Yay or nay?

[ShootingtheJ]

If you get Giannis on board, I would at least consider it. Could extend the window. No idea why the Spurs would do that when I think they add guys like Buzelis and Carter. They can still add a vet via a trade of future picks.

Spurs do it to get off the bad Johnson and Graham contracts. Then they flip Dame for twice as much.

[WeMajor34]

Bucks out - Pat C, 23, 33

Bucks in - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls out - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls in - Pat C, 23, 33

I’d consider this but I’d also be a little hesitant. My man Tristen Newton could be the 33rd pick and certainly has a chance to carve out a similar type of role to Ayo.. But the established guy could be the difference in a late title run this season. Yay or nay?

Knowing Bulls are open for business after the Caruso trade, I think we should try to get this done without one of those picks.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bucks out - Pat C, 23, 33

Bucks in - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls out - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls in - Pat C, 23, 33

I’d consider this but I’d also be a little hesitant. My man Tristen Newton could be the 33rd pick and certainly has a chance to carve out a similar type of role to Ayo.. But the established guy could be the difference in a late title run this season. Yay or nay?

Knowing Bulls are open for business after the Caruso trade, I think we should try to get this done without one of those picks.

Bulls just opened a spot for Ayo. However, if they're open for business, get Coby White, not that softy Ayo.

[bdpecore]

MIL Out: Portis, Connaughton and #33
MIL In: Finney-Smith, Grimes and Sharpe

OKC Out: Dieng and 2025 OKC 1st (Lottery Protected)
OKC In: Portis

BKN Out: Finney-Smith and Sharpe
BKN In: Dieng, Beauchamp and 2025 OKC 1st (Lottery Protected)

DET Out: Grimes
DET In: #33

SAS Out: #48
SAS In: Connaughton

This needs to be broken down into 2 trades to meet CBA rules.

Trade #1 (Done before the draft)
MIL In: Grimes and Sharpe
BKN In: #48
SAS In: Connaughton
DET In: #33

This trade gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron and allows them to aggregate salaries come July 1st.

Trade #2 (New Fiscal Year)
Bucks In: Finney-Smith
Nets In: Beauchamp, Dieng, and 2025 OKC 1st (Lottery Protected)
Thunder In: Portis

Draft Terrance Shannon at 23 and buy a 2nd to draft Oso Ighodaro

PG - Dame, Wright (vet min)
SG - Grimes, AJJ, Green
SF - Middleton, Shannon, Livingston
PF - Giannis, Finney-Smith, Ighodaro
C - Lopez, Sharpe, Eubanks (Vet min)

[AussieBuck]

Dame might the best guy we ever see the Bucks trade for. Just get some dudes who can move their feet around our three scorers.

[Daver]

Dame might the best guy we ever see the Bucks trade for. Just get some dudes who can move their feet around our three scorers.

This could also be the best big 3 they ever had when healthy yet after 1 year fans wanna already split it up fu... hey.
As you say just get a dude that can move his feet at the 2 spot n some off the bench guys

[RiotPunch]

Bucks out - Pat C, 23, 33

Bucks in - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls out - Ayo Dosumno

Bulls in - Pat C, 23, 33

I’d consider this but I’d also be a little hesitant. My man Tristen Newton could be the 33rd pick and certainly has a chance to carve out a similar type of role to Ayo.. But the established guy could be the difference in a late title run this season. Yay or nay?

Knowing Bulls are open for business after the Caruso trade, I think we should try to get this done without one of those picks.

Bulls just opened a spot for Ayo. However, if they're open for business, get Coby White, not that softy Ayo.

Coby would be awesome. Seems like a decent fit next to Giddey, though. Not sure we could cobble together an enticing enough offer.