Grant Trade?

[BlazersBroncos]

If I was DET I much sooner overpay Tobias Harris and keep the #5 pick.

[DusterBuster]

If I was DET I much sooner overpay Tobias Harris and keep the #5 pick.

Yeah, Detroit is not going to give the #5 pick for a player they just moved for a bad first rounder 2 years ago.

[DusterBuster]

Grant was acquired for a late 1st as an expiring. He's locked into a long term contract now, but he's still the same player and is arguably overpaid. I cannot imagine a team trading a top 5 pick for Grant. But I could see a rookie prospect plus late 1st type of return.

The truth that most Blazers fans don't want to admit is that if our pieces had any significant positive value, it would be because they are winning pieces. And the Blazers cashed those out with the Dame/Holiday trades. Simons, Grant, Brogdon, Ayton are all complimentary pieces. No doubt that they can be moved for positive value. But the odds of any of them being moved for a high draft pick or all-star caliber player is low.

The new era of NBA contracts is here, as such, I would argue about him being overpaid. He's certainly not underpaid, but his current price tag is what we should start expecting as the norm for teams 3-4th best player.

Outside of that, I agree with everything else you said.

I don't think the Blazers would have an problem trading Grant, Simons, Brogdon or Ayton if they want to move them. What value they can return however is up for debate. I totally agree with you in that I think they bring back some nice rebuilding pieces, but I think getting Top 6 pick (without giving up the 7 or 14 in addition) or All Star quality guys in return is off the table.

[Norm2953]

I would suspect Portland will end up keeping Grant for the same reasons Duster is saying,
the return would be minimal and right now, he's the only forward Portland has who could
start for an NBA team

I'm generally pessimistic Portland will active on draft night unless they do something like trade
Brogdon + 34 to get up into the first round to get a player they want, who will not be there at 34.

[Butter]

I would suspect Portland will end up keeping Grant for the same reasons Duster is saying,
the return would be minimal and right now, he's the only forward Portland has who could
start for an NBA team

I'm generally pessimistic Portland will active on draft night unless they do something like trade
Brogdon + 34 to get up into the first round to get a player they want, who will not be there at 34.

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I'd trade off Grant for draft picks. IMHO, the Blazers need cap space and the best chance at a #1 draft pick next year.

Let the young fellas play.

[DusterBuster]

I would suspect Portland will end up keeping Grant for the same reasons Duster is saying,
the return would be minimal and right now, he's the only forward Portland has who could
start for an NBA team

I'm generally pessimistic Portland will active on draft night unless they do something like trade
Brogdon + 34 to get up into the first round to get a player they want, who will not be there at 34.

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I'd trade off Grant for draft picks. IMHO, the Blazers need cap space and the best chance at a #1 draft pick next year.

Let the young fellas play.

I absolutely would offload Grant this summer for best package available. Even at his price tag, there should be value out there for him and he just doesn't make sense with Portland's direction. It's time to fully embrace youth. They tried the vet/youth combo move too much last year for my taste. It's time to rip the **** bandaid off. Start an 18yo 82 games if you can, who gives af right now.

[Norm2953]

I would suspect Portland will end up keeping Grant for the same reasons Duster is saying,
the return would be minimal and right now, he's the only forward Portland has who could
start for an NBA team

I'm generally pessimistic Portland will active on draft night unless they do something like trade
Brogdon + 34 to get up into the first round to get a player they want, who will not be there at 34.

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I'd trade off Grant for draft picks. IMHO, the Blazers need cap space and the best chance at a #1 draft pick next year.

Let the young fellas play.

I absolutely would offload Grant this summer for best package available. Even at his price tag, there should be value out there for him and he just doesn't make sense with Portland's direction. It's time to fully embrace youth. They tried the vet/youth combo move too much last year for my taste. It's time to rip the **** bandaid off. Start an 18yo 82 games if you can, who gives af right now.

It's going to be tough to get much value on a forced trade of Grant.

Teams who are patient get value for unless Portland just gives him away for one of those Grant + 14 to a team
like Philly with (cap space) for 16 , its best to be patient and just wait until the increasing cap makes even Grant
more tolerable

[PDXKnight]

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I'd trade off Grant for draft picks. IMHO, the Blazers need cap space and the best chance at a #1 draft pick next year.

Let the young fellas play.

I absolutely would offload Grant this summer for best package available. Even at his price tag, there should be value out there for him and he just doesn't make sense with Portland's direction. It's time to fully embrace youth. They tried the vet/youth combo move too much last year for my taste. It's time to rip the **** bandaid off. Start an 18yo 82 games if you can, who gives af right now.

It's going to be tough to get much value on a forced trade of Grant.

Teams who are patient get value for unless Portland just gives him away for one of those Grant + 14 to a team
like Philly with (cap space) for 16 , its best to be patient and just wait until the increasing cap makes even Grant
more tolerable

Yeah I think we need to be patient unless something good comes our way sooner. Grant isn't gonna be the piece to get us over but he isn't hurting things either, he seems to be a good locker room guy and has enough value if we play our cards right. We won't get bank but maybe a protected first or two and seconds without giving much else away.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think Grant can be moved this offseason. I suspect a team like PHI, if/when they strike out on PG13, would pivot pretty quickly to Grant as a replacement. We likley could get a huge TPE and a future protected FRP for him.

I prefer a move w/ SAC turning Grant into Barnes (Nice vet stopgap - wont steal as many shots from the kids as Grant but still brings a nice vet presence) + 13. Would add in 40 or if pressed 34 to get it done.

[Blazinaway]

Sac now has Monk in fold so a SF/PF is needed there so Grant, would probably we something like Barnes/Huerter and 13 pick, both guys have 2 yrs left on current contracts

[BlazersBroncos]

Sac now has Monk in fold so a SF/PF is needed there so Grant, would probably we something like Barnes/Huerter and 13 pick, both guys have 2 yrs left on current contracts

That works if they want to cut some $$$. I assume they would want to keep one of Barnes / Huerter as a 6th man.

Grant + Kris + 40 for Barnes + Davion + 13

OR

Grant + Kris for Huerter + Davion + Duerte + 13

I much prefer Barnes as he can stopgap at either F spot. Huerter is a SG.

[DusterBuster]

As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I'd trade off Grant for draft picks. IMHO, the Blazers need cap space and the best chance at a #1 draft pick next year.

Let the young fellas play.

I absolutely would offload Grant this summer for best package available. Even at his price tag, there should be value out there for him and he just doesn't make sense with Portland's direction. It's time to fully embrace youth. They tried the vet/youth combo move too much last year for my taste. It's time to rip the **** bandaid off. Start an 18yo 82 games if you can, who gives af right now.

It's going to be tough to get much value on a forced trade of Grant.

Teams who are patient get value for unless Portland just gives him away for one of those Grant + 14 to a team
like Philly with (cap space) for 16 , its best to be patient and just wait until the increasing cap makes even Grant
more tolerable

I agree with you about being patient, but also I wasn't saying do a "forced" trade of Grant. From what insiders have said (Danny Marang), if the Blazers want to trade Grant, they would get back good value for him - better than cap space and dropping back 2 picks. There are plenty of veteran playoff teams that would love a player like Grant.

[zzaj]

The Blazers have to be REEEEALLY careful with vets they bring in, especially if they are coming from a winning situation. Nothing would poison a locker room quicker than a vet who is in their "I need to win for my legacy" years, who knows they have no long-term future with the team.

IMHO, somebody like Barnes is a prime example of this. It could totally work, but it could also completely backfire. The Blazers are very lucky that they have two vets in Brogdon and Grant that actually want to be in Portland. That's worth a lot.

[Waynearchetype]

Tanking is so much better to watch if you are watching young players try and fail instead of vets play musical chairs with injuries. Get them outta here.

[DusterBuster]

The Blazers have to be REEEEALLY careful with vets they bring in, especially if they are coming from a winning situation. Nothing would poison a locker room quicker than a vet who is in their "I need to win for my legacy" years, who knows they have no long-term future with the team.

IMHO, somebody like Barnes is a prime example of this. It could totally work, but it could also completely backfire. The Blazers are very lucky that they have two vets in Brogdon and Grant that actually want to be in Portland. That's worth a lot.

I can't imagine bringing in veterans is even on their radar at this point. If they do come in via a trade, I would have to imagine Plan A would be to give them the Holiday treatment if thats what the player wants. Cronin has been very diligent in making sure if there's a vet brought in that doesn't want to be here, he works with the player and his agent to find a landing spot they want to goto.

All this to say, I think that's all kind of a non-issue.

[DusterBuster]

Tanking is so much better to watch if you are watching young players try and fail instead of vets play musical chairs with injuries. Get them outta here.

Shout it from the rooftops. Hell, it was more fun watching Telfair and Ha goofing around on the court than whatever the f this year was.

[Jkam31]

Sac now has Monk in fold so a SF/PF is needed there so Grant, would probably we something like Barnes/Huerter and 13 pick, both guys have 2 yrs left on current contracts

That works if they want to cut some $$$. I assume they would want to keep one of Barnes / Huerter as a 6th man.

Grant + Kris + 40 for Barnes + Davion + 13

OR

Grant + Kris for Huerter + Davion + Duerte + 13

I much prefer Barnes as he can stopgap at either F spot. Huerter is a SG.

We would for sure wanna keep Barnes over Huerter

[SelfishPlayer]

Grant should have already been traded, but I think that Portland wants to win a trade while he still has value on the court. He will probably play out his contract in Portland like Tobias did for the Sixers.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Sac now has Monk in fold so a SF/PF is needed there so Grant, would probably we something like Barnes/Huerter and 13 pick, both guys have 2 yrs left on current contracts

That works if they want to cut some $$$. I assume they would want to keep one of Barnes / Huerter as a 6th man.

Grant + Kris + 40 for Barnes + Davion + 13

OR

Grant + Kris for Huerter + Davion + Duerte + 13

I much prefer Barnes as he can stopgap at either F spot. Huerter is a SG.

We would for sure wanna keep Barnes over Huerter

I wouldn't want to keep Barnes either and would look to move him at the trade deadline.

[Jkam31]

That works if they want to cut some $$$. I assume they would want to keep one of Barnes / Huerter as a 6th man.

Grant + Kris + 40 for Barnes + Davion + 13

OR

Grant + Kris for Huerter + Davion + Duerte + 13

I much prefer Barnes as he can stopgap at either F spot. Huerter is a SG.

We would for sure wanna keep Barnes over Huerter

I wouldn't want to keep Barnes either and would look to move him at the trade deadline.

Brown likes barnes plus having him off as a bench player is extreme good a bench of monk, barnes, and Lyle’s is up there with anyone. We’d have really good size Ont the perimeter keeping him