Grant Trade?

[PDXKnight]

Grant should have already been traded, but I think that Portland wants to win a trade while he still has value on the court. He will probably play out his contract in Portland like Tobias did for the Sixers.

It depends if teams value (or devalue) that contract. Logic says the contract is beginning to look a lot more palpable with the NBA money increasing. Reality is Maybe logic meets reason now next season or never. But I suspect jerami is no longer a negative contract at minimum and more than likely he's worth a bit of a return at least at this point since that huge contract is no longer so huge in the eyes of nba franchises

[Walton1one]

Tough to find a match with Dallas, the list of assets that they might be willing to trade is not overly appealing IMO.

Also, they do not have a lot of draft picks to deal, a 2025 first and a 2031 first, but I think that (2031) cannot be traded until sometime in July.

POR Is not going to give away Grant either, my guess is if they trade him, they are gonna want a minimum of two 1st Round picks or one first round pick and a good young player.

POR trades Grant & Banton to DAL, along with #40

DAL trades Hardaway Jr, Kleber, Exum a 25’ 1st, 2031 1st and 25’ 2nd via TOR

So a couple issues with this trade:

1) This doesn’t save POR a lot of money, So they will still need to address their cap issues elsewhere via another trade

2) Banton does not need to be included, however, with the roster crunch, including him in the deal, helps a little, can’t see POR willing to include Walker/Murray or Rupert

3) My guess is Exum would be cut

4) Hardaway Jr has one year left, maybe at the trade deadline they might be able to get something for him

5) Kleber has 2 years left, a veteran shooter, Again, POR may be able to get something for him down the line

6) The 25’ 1st is marginally valuable, high teens\low twenties best case scenario? The 2031 has more potential value IMO, but is aways way down line

7) The 25’ 2nd from TOR could be decent

8) Maybe POR takes Prosper instead of the 25’ or 31’ 1st?

9) Another option is instead of Kleber & Exum, DAL sends Green instead, He is on rookie deal 3yrs left, but unless they are trading away Simons I can’t see adding a 3rd shooting guard

is a mid/late 25’ 1st, a 2031 1st or one of those + Prosper, maybe Green worth trading away Grant to DAL?

I don’t know, have to believe there might be some better deals out there, but it could be OK?

[soobias]

i wished wiretap would post all teams interested in gran, but as long as there's several teams interested in him there's a chance for a decent return

[SelfishPlayer]

Grant should have already been traded, but I think that Portland wants to win a trade while he still has value on the court. He will probably play out his contract in Portland like Tobias did for the Sixers.

It depends if teams value (or devalue) that contract. Logic says the contract is beginning to look a lot more palpable with the NBA money increasing. Reality is Maybe logic meets reason now next season or never. But I suspect jerami is no longer a negative contract at minimum and more than likely he's worth a bit of a return at least at this point since that huge contract is no longer so huge in the eyes of nba franchises

His contract was never huge. He makes what a good starting small forward makes. I simply think that Portland's front office wants to "win" the trade. I don't see that changing.

[ebott]

I will be real surprised if we trade Grant for more than we gave to Detroit. He just hasn't done anything to raise his value.

[PDXKnight]

I will be real surprised if we trade Grant for more than we gave to Detroit. He just hasn't done anything to raise his value.

He is locked up longer term which could be good or bad. I expect to get about what we paid for him initially

[PDXKnight]

Grant should have already been traded, but I think that Portland wants to win a trade while he still has value on the court. He will probably play out his contract in Portland like Tobias did for the Sixers.

It depends if teams value (or devalue) that contract. Logic says the contract is beginning to look a lot more palpable with the NBA money increasing. Reality is Maybe logic meets reason now next season or never. But I suspect jerami is no longer a negative contract at minimum and more than likely he's worth a bit of a return at least at this point since that huge contract is no longer so huge in the eyes of nba franchises

His contract was never huge. He makes what a good starting small forward makes. I simply think that Portland's front office wants to "win" the trade. I don't see that changing.

I'm not sure what his value is tbh. I'd guess it was about what we paid to get him but there's also whispers teams value him decent enough to pay perhaps a bit more than that. But time will tell and that's if we even deal him

[Walton1one]

I think as an 3rd/4th option for a playoff team he probably holds more value than what Portland got for him.

Also, I think he holds more value to Portland than people think he does. Grant serves as a nice bridge\scorer\veteran presence until some of the young guys are hopefully ready.

If POR is going to trade him away, then I think they are going to have to be convinced, meaning, getting more than they gave up to get him

[ACMFFL]

Tough to find a match with Dallas, the list of assets that they might be willing to trade is not overly appealing IMO.

Also, they do not have a lot of draft picks to deal, a 2025 first and a 2031 first, but I think that (2031) cannot be traded until sometime in July.

POR Is not going to give away Grant either, my guess is if they trade him, they are gonna want a minimum of two 1st Round picks or one first round pick and a good young player.

POR trades Grant & Blanton to DAL, along with #40

DAL trades Hardaway Jr, Kleber, Exum a 25’ 1st, 2031 1st and 25’ 2nd via TOR

So a couple issues with this trade:

1) This doesn’t save POR a lot of money, So they will still need to address their cap issues elsewhere via another trade

2) Blanton does not need to be included, however, with the roster crunch, including him in the deal, helps a little, can’t see POR willing to include Walker/Murray or Rupert

3) My guess is Exum would be cut

4) Hardaway Jr has one year left, maybe at the trade deadline they might be able to get something for him

5) Kleber has 2 years left, a veteran shooter, Again, POR may be able to get something for him down the line

6) The 25’ 1st is marginally valuable, high teens\low twenties best case scenario? The 2031 has more potential value IMO, but is aways way down line

7) The 25’ 2nd from TOR could be decent

8) Maybe POR takes Prosper instead of the 25’ or 31’ 1st?

9) Another option is instead of Kleber & Exum, DAL sends Green instead, He is on rookie deal 3yrs left, but unless they are trading away Simons I can’t see adding a 3rd shooting guard

is a mid/late 25’ 1st, a 2031 1st or one of those + Prosper, maybe Green worth trading away Grant to DAL?

I don’t know, have to believe there might be some better deals out there, but it could be OK?

Honestly zero interest from Dallas in Jerami at this hefty price, 2 FRP + a good SRP feels like a huge overpay.

[SelfishPlayer]

It depends if teams value (or devalue) that contract. Logic says the contract is beginning to look a lot more palpable with the NBA money increasing. Reality is Maybe logic meets reason now next season or never. But I suspect jerami is no longer a negative contract at minimum and more than likely he's worth a bit of a return at least at this point since that huge contract is no longer so huge in the eyes of nba franchises

His contract was never huge. He makes what a good starting small forward makes. I simply think that Portland's front office wants to "win" the trade. I don't see that changing.

I'm not sure what his value is tbh. I'd guess it was about what we paid to get him but there's also whispers teams value him decent enough to pay perhaps a bit more than that. But time will tell and that's if we even deal him

I would like to see him in the postseason again. I do recognize that the young players on rebuilding teams benefit from having vets around, and vets that can actually play good basketball are another plus.

[GEE]

What I find most interesting is the timing of this "wiretap" coming just days before the draft. I'm sure it's just a declaration from Cronin and the Blazers that they are open for business, with Grant (think Tatum and Brown "stopper") as our best available asset. Brogden definitely available as well on draft day. I think all other current Blazers will remain, but I personally would would be interested what the market might fetch for Scoot, if he was quietly made "touchable" via trade.

Wish we would have drafted Derrick Lively II.......

[BlazersBroncos]

I think after the finals loss DAL is going to be active in adding another quality talent and end of the day Grant will be near the top of the list of talent and attainability.

THJ + Green + 25 FRP UNP + 2 SRP for Grant + Reath

Its not great, that 25 FRP is going to be 25-30 most likely, but its a fairly realistic return. THJ is expiring (And likely bought out), so we save a good amount of $$$. Green has a nice role playing skillset and could develop a bit in a situation where he isnt as worried about making mistakes.

I know alot of people like Banton but end of the day the only time he produced was when we were tanking, his efficiency is absolutely trash and he doesnt play with any semblance of control - he is more of a #3 swing guard than a guy you pencil in as a backup IMO.

Follow the deal up with Simons to ORL for some sort of future pick package and your looking pretty good IMO.

7 - Ron Holland F
14 - Zach Edey C

Use 34 + 40 + some future SRP to move up and snag another FRP for Tyler Smith.

G - Scoot Henderson / Malcolm Brogdan / Dalano Banton
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Josh Green / Dalano Banton
F - Matisse Thybulle / Ron Holland (7) / Rayan Rupert
F - Toumari Camara / Tyler Smith (FRP) / Jabari Walker JR / Kris Murray
C - DeAndre Ayton / Robert Williams III / Zach Edey (14)

I would be happy with that, and think its fairly realistic as DAL and ORL are going to be buyers.

[m0ng0]

Grant was brought in to appease Dame and that ship has sailed, unload him for whatever the best deal possible is.

[Jsun947]

How about Grant + Williams for #12?

OKC gets another scoring wing for when they go small and a center that can play next to Holmgren

Portland gets another lottery pick, cap space, and gets out of the tax.

SGA
Caruso
Dort
Joe
Wallace
Jalen Williams
Grant
Kenrich Williams
Dieng
Holmgren
Robert Williams
Jaylin Williams

Roster is deep as hell

[DusterBuster]

How about Grant + Williams for #12?

OKC gets another scoring wing for when they go small and a center that can play next to Holmgren

Portland gets another lottery pick, cap space, and gets out of the tax.

SGA
Caruso
Dort
Joe
Wallace
Jalen Williams
Grant
Kenrich Williams
Dieng
Holmgren
Robert Williams
Jaylin Williams

Roster is deep as hell

I do think OKC is an amazing fit, but I don't want 3 picks in this draft unless it's a 3 way deal with another team to combine 2 or all 3 of the picks to move up or something. If there's a Grant and Brogdon to OKC trade, I think the Blazers need to walk away with one or two of the Thunders 700 million 2025 first round picks.

[DusterBuster]

I think after the finals loss DAL is going to be active in adding another quality talent and end of the day Grant will be near the top of the list of talent and attainability.

THJ + Green + 25 FRP UNP + 2 SRP for Grant + Reath

Its not great, that 25 FRP is going to be 25-30 most likely, but its a fairly realistic return. THJ is expiring (And likely bought out), so we save a good amount of $$$. Green has a nice role playing skillset and could develop a bit in a situation where he isnt as worried about making mistakes.

I know alot of people like Banton but end of the day the only time he produced was when we were tanking, his efficiency is absolutely trash and he doesnt play with any semblance of control - he is more of a #3 swing guard than a guy you pencil in as a backup IMO.

Follow the deal up with Simons to ORL for some sort of future pick package and your looking pretty good IMO.

7 - Ron Holland F
14 - Zach Edey C

Use 34 + 40 + some future SRP to move up and snag another FRP for Tyler Smith.

G - Scoot Henderson / Malcolm Brogdan / Dalano Banton
G - Shadeon Sharpe / Josh Green / Dalano Banton
F - Matisse Thybulle / Ron Holland (7) / Rayan Rupert
F - Toumari Camara / Tyler Smith (FRP) / Jabari Walker JR / Kris Murray
C - DeAndre Ayton / Robert Williams III / Zach Edey (14)

I would be happy with that, and think its fairly realistic as DAL and ORL are going to be buyers.

I like a deal like this Grant deal as well. Blazers have some decently valuable veteran talent on reasonable contracts between Grant, Brogdon, Williams and Simons. I think with all these guys, they should be trying to stock up on 2025 picks from teams who are hopeful to be playoff contenders.

[DusterBuster]

I like the Bleacher Report proposal for Grant to Dallas:

Dallas Mavericks Receive: Jerami Grant

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, 2025 first-round pick, 2031 first-round pick

I would also do it without the 31 pick.

[ebott]

I like the Bleacher Report proposal for Grant to Dallas:

Dallas Mavericks Receive: Jerami Grant

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, 2025 first-round pick, 2031 first-round pick

I would also do it without the 31 pick.

The biggest problem with this (and really any Blazers trade this off season) is that our team is already full. Ideally we would find trades where we are sending out more players than we are receiving.

[red_power]

I think Blazers didn't waive any player for a way too long time. I also suspect Cronin would love to commemorate the glory days of Neil Olshey with waving and stretching Kleber's contract.

[BlazersBroncos]

I like the Bleacher Report proposal for Grant to Dallas:

Dallas Mavericks Receive: Jerami Grant

Portland Trail Blazers Receive: Tim Hardaway Jr., Maxi Kleber, 2025 first-round pick, 2031 first-round pick

I would also do it without the 31 pick.

The biggest problem with this (and really any Blazers trade this off season) is that our team is already full. Ideally we would find trades where we are sending out more players than we are receiving.

If we are getting both DAL FRPs I would be fine with adding 34 to a cap space team to take on THJ. Also think we could send out Walker to clear out roster space - something like this works -

PDX OUT - Grant, Walker, 34
PDX IN - 2025 DAL FRP UNP, 2031 DAL FRP (LP)

DAL OUT - THJ, Kleber, 2025 DAL FRP UNP, 2031 DAL FRP (LP)
DAL IN - Grant, Walker

DET OUT - Fake SRP
DET IN - THJ, Kleber, #34

I think the 25 FRP would be UNP but some sort of protection would need to be on the 2031 FRP. This deal doesnt just add Grant to DAL, but it opens up the larger MLE to resign DJJ which is a huge added bonus. For PDX it saves us a ton, gets us future picks and clears roster space.

I would also see if BOS would move 30 for Reath + 40.