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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1021 » by fallguy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:57 am

titlebound1 wrote:Yeah that's a solid move to match us. They for sure have the bodies now. But they still can't hide Brunson. Also there is zero answer for KP


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Post#1022 » by fallguy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:58 am

It's an overpay for the Knicks but this was their summer to go all-in. If they bring back OG they're going to be a nasty opponent.
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Post#1023 » by Dogen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:59 am

The Knicks are going for it, no holds barred.
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Post#1024 » by keevsnick1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:00 am

About the BRK/HOU draft pick trade:

It looks like what happened here is Brklyn is essentially swapping Phoenix's draft to Houston in exchange for their own draft back so that they can tank properly.

So Houston is giving up the right to swap their pick with Brk in 2025 but getting the right to swap their own with Phoenix in 2025. They are giving up the Brk 2026 pick but getting back the Phoenix 2027 pick.

They are also getting the more favorable of Dallas/Phoenix in 2029 as well as the right to swap their pick with the less favorable of the two. Basically, they'll have the best 2 of their own, Dallas and Phoenix in 2029.

They also retained the right to swap their own with BRK in 2027.
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Post#1025 » by Tyakack » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:04 am

Yeah, really solid move for the Knicks. All though they gave up a hell of a lot but, these are the types of moves you need to make if you're serious about winning a title. Looks like they are going all in. I got them as the second best team in the east right behind us. As of now. Still a long offseason to go.
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Post#1026 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:04 am

Dogen wrote:The Knicks are going for it, no holds barred.

Bring back the Boston/New York rivalry! :D
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Post#1027 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:08 am

Philly and Bucks will be in panic mode. :lol:
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Post#1028 » by Dogen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:11 am

Celts17Pride wrote:
Dogen wrote:The Knicks are going for it, no holds barred.

Bring back the Boston/New York rivalry! :D


Oh those Knicks glory days with their "formidable" front line!

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Post#1030 » by CelticsPride18 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:25 am

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Post#1031 » by zoyathedestroya » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:28 am

I like move for the Celtics. They need to be battle-tested for once before reaching the Finals.
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Post#1033 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:00 am

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this was not the move to make if they wanted to do that lol

I think it was a good move to counter the Celtics but they need more and they lost their flexibility to do more unless they trade Randle.

OG, Bridges and Hart on Tatum/Brown is as good as you are going to get.


It's going to be a lot of effort just to wind up having KP shoot over them!!

All jokes aside it's a nice group of wings to go with Brunson.
They should be one of our tougher rivals. Plenty of good teams in the east.
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Post#1034 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:02 am

keevsnick1 wrote:About the BRK/HOU draft pick trade:

It looks like what happened here is Brklyn is essentially swapping Phoenix's draft to Houston in exchange for their own draft back so that they can tank properly.

So Houston is giving up the right to swap their pick with Brk in 2025 but getting the right to swap their own with Phoenix in 2025. They are giving up the Brk 2026 pick but getting back the Phoenix 2027 pick.

They are also getting the more favorable of Dallas/Phoenix in 2029 as well as the right to swap their pick with the less favorable of the two. Basically, they'll have the best 2 of their own, Dallas and Phoenix in 2029.

They also retained the right to swap their own with BRK in 2027.


Just brutal to think about. Teams are speculating on future commodity markets. Pick swap + pork belly in exchange for orange juice futures?
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Post#1035 » by chakdaddy » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:26 am

keevsnick1 wrote:About the BRK/HOU draft pick trade:

It looks like what happened here is Brklyn is essentially swapping Phoenix's draft to Houston in exchange for their own draft back so that they can tank properly.

So Houston is giving up the right to swap their pick with Brk in 2025 but getting the right to swap their own with Phoenix in 2025. They are giving up the Brk 2026 pick but getting back the Phoenix 2027 pick.

They are also getting the more favorable of Dallas/Phoenix in 2029 as well as the right to swap their pick with the less favorable of the two. Basically, they'll have the best 2 of their own, Dallas and Phoenix in 2029.

They also retained the right to swap their own with BRK in 2027.


Are they basically betting on Phoenix falling apart and Brooklyn improving? The Durant rumors make sense since it makes Phoenix worse short term, making the picks extra enticing to Phoenix.

Does this just give undo the prior trades? When the smoke clears will someone have gotten something for nothing?

Phoenix gets their picks back but still lost Bridges.
Nets get their pick backs and basically trade Durant for Harden and Bridges (subsequently for Simmons and Knicks picks.)

Houston trades Harden for Durant.

So...Nets win with free Knicks picks? Suns lose?

Irving for Porzingis is in there somewhere too.
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Post#1036 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:30 am

Baylor Scheierman come on down!
Celtics need another wing to throw at the Knicks or you can't rest on your laurels as a Champion,
because everyone else is gunning for you...
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Post#1037 » by Dogen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:46 am

bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Baylor Scheierman come on down!
Celtics need another wing to throw at the Knicks or you can't rest on your laurels as a Champion,
because everyone else is gunning for you...


Yeah, I wonder if the Bridges trade influences the pick. With Anunoby, Bridges, Hart the Knicks have some nice depth and the Celtics could use an extra player off the bench (maybe Walsh?). Scheierman might be one of the most "ready" players that could be available at 30.
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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1038 » by Dogen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:47 am

Dogen wrote:
bigfoot_cryptozoology wrote:Baylor Scheierman come on down!
Celtics need another wing to throw at the Knicks or you can't rest on your laurels as a Champion,
because everyone else is gunning for you...


Yeah, I wonder if the Bridges trade influences the pick. With Anunoby, Bridges, Hart the Knicks have some nice depth and the Celtics could use an extra player off the bench (maybe Walsh?). Scheierman might be one of the most "ready" players that could be available at 30.


Of course, the Knicks might also draft Scheierman!
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Post#1039 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:49 am

chakdaddy wrote:
keevsnick1 wrote:About the BRK/HOU draft pick trade:

It looks like what happened here is Brklyn is essentially swapping Phoenix's draft to Houston in exchange for their own draft back so that they can tank properly.

So Houston is giving up the right to swap their pick with Brk in 2025 but getting the right to swap their own with Phoenix in 2025. They are giving up the Brk 2026 pick but getting back the Phoenix 2027 pick.

They are also getting the more favorable of Dallas/Phoenix in 2029 as well as the right to swap their pick with the less favorable of the two. Basically, they'll have the best 2 of their own, Dallas and Phoenix in 2029.

They also retained the right to swap their own with BRK in 2027.


Are they basically betting on Phoenix falling apart and Brooklyn improving? The Durant rumors make sense since it makes Phoenix worse short term, making the picks extra enticing to Phoenix.

Does this just give undo the prior trades? When the smoke clears will someone have gotten something for nothing?

Phoenix gets their picks back but still lost Bridges.
Nets get their pick backs and basically trade Durant for Harden and Bridges (subsequently for Simmons and Knicks picks.)

Houston trades Harden for Durant.

So...Nets win with free Knicks picks? Suns lose?

Irving for Porzingis is in there somewhere too.


If you believe in the concept of retro-causality and the oneness of Time: All Time Is Now, then this Knicks deal was somewhat responsible for the Celtics acquiring Porzingis in the Past. Without Porzingis, the Celtics don't beat the Knicks this upcoming season
and become a mini-dynasty...
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Post#1040 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:27 am

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