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Re: Free Agent, Trade & Extensions Thread, 2024-25 

Post#1061 » by Riverwalk2021 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:22 pm

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Riverwalk2021 wrote:Not impressed with the Caruso or Bridges additions. Caruso is a poor man’s DWhite and Bridges is a loser. Celtics in 5. I think Indiana is the team that has the highest ceiling after the Celtics. LOL at the Bucks and Heat though. More first round exits for them :lol:


Think Caruso is a really big add for the Thunder. If they can get someone like Hartenstein on top of it, that team is very legit


I don’t agree but I guess we’ll see. They lack experience and their #2 or #3 options aren’t built for the POs. They remind me of the Hawks or Raptors that won a lot of reg season games but you knew they weren’t actual contenders.

Adding two solid role players won’t move the needle especially one that is always injured.
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Post#1062 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:34 pm

I hope hope hope hope that ORlando grabs both Hartenstein and Anunoby in Free Agency. I like that young team and those 2 guys would bu HUUUUUUUGe for them, imo.

PG: Suggs / Anthony
SG: Anunoby / Black / Howard
SF: Wagner / ??? / Houston
PF: Banchero / Isaac
C: Hartenstein / Carter JR / Wagner

They have about 40 Million in space.

30ish to OG and 10ish to Hartenstein and they would, imo, jump into the top of the 2nd tier in the east with a healthy Philly and Bucks teams.

I like this team and this is a great chance for them, imo.
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Post#1063 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:40 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:I hope hope hope hope that ORlando grabs both Hartenstein and Anunoby in Free Agency. I like that young team and those 2 guys would bu HUUUUUUUGe for them, imo.

PG: Suggs / Anthony
SG: Anunoby / Black / Howard
SF: Wagner / ??? / Houston
PF: Banchero / Isaac
C: Hartenstein / Carter JR / Wagner

They have about 40 Million in space.

30ish to OG and 10ish to Hartenstein and they would, imo, jump into the top of the 2nd tier in the east with a healthy Philly and Bucks teams.

I like this team and this is a great chance for them, imo.


What is a "healthy Philly team"? They have Embiid and Maxey under contract. That's it. Who do you have them acquiring or re-signing?
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Post#1064 » by CelticsPride18 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:53 pm

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He has negative Bball IQ, but his physical tools are impressive and the Jays stimulus package might help
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Post#1065 » by shackles10 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:58 pm

Big move for the Knicks. On the surface they're providing a formidable option of wing defenders against the Jays. Not too far below the surface though there's tons of question marks. Do they resign OG? If not this is just getting a little smaller with Bridges for OG (more offense, but also cost you 5 picks). Do they resign Hartenstein? It's much harder now, and if not you just got a lot smaller losing him and OG. Does Robinson come back if they can't resign Hartenstein and if they can does what do you get for Robinson? Does Randle come back healthy, and can he fit in with more offensive options now. That's been a struggle for him to not be the man, and he's not good enough to be that on a real contender. How does Thibs figure out the lineups when a lot of overlap potentially if they make all the moves they hope to, and a small lineup if they don't? How effective is Brunson when he's not a 30-35 ppg scorer if they bring OG back?

Basically this is like last off-season when we traded for KP but lost Smart and had question marks in Brogdon and Rob (although because of health, not free agency). Except they're hard capped and there's also no Jrue Holiday sitting out in the Pacific Northwest waiting for the Knicks to pick up the phone. If this doesn't work, the Knicks could be out of relevancy within a couple of seasons.
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Post#1066 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:58 pm

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He has negative Bball IQ, but his physical tools are impressive and the Jays stimulus package might help
Him.

Knicks will probably go after him. Wiseman and Randle would make quite a pair :lol:
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Post#1067 » by chrisab123 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:01 pm

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Despite the warts I'd probably take a flyer. Even though his BBIQ has been in question since he was in GSW. But sometimes it takes a while to find your footing as a center.
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Post#1069 » by lon3lytoaster » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:05 pm

Looks like depending on OG and what he does, the Knicks/Burks may not be together next season. Would still love to add him.
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Post#1070 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:07 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:I hope hope hope hope that ORlando grabs both Hartenstein and Anunoby in Free Agency. I like that young team and those 2 guys would bu HUUUUUUUGe for them, imo.

PG: Suggs / Anthony
SG: Anunoby / Black / Howard
SF: Wagner / ??? / Houston
PF: Banchero / Isaac
C: Hartenstein / Carter JR / Wagner

They have about 40 Million in space.

30ish to OG and 10ish to Hartenstein and they would, imo, jump into the top of the 2nd tier in the east with a healthy Philly and Bucks teams.

I like this team and this is a great chance for them, imo.


What is a "healthy Philly team"? They have Embiid and Maxey under contract. That's it. Who do you have them acquiring or re-signing?



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Post#1071 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:08 pm

shackles10 wrote:Big move for the Knicks. On the surface they're providing a formidable option of wing defenders against the Jays. Not too far below the surface though there's tons of question marks. Do they resign OG? If not this is just getting a little smaller with Bridges for OG (more offense, but also cost you 5 picks). Do they resign Hartenstein? It's much harder now, and if not you just got a lot smaller losing him and OG. Does Robinson come back if they can't resign Hartenstein and if they can does what do you get for Robinson? Does Randle come back healthy, and can he fit in with more offensive options now. That's been a struggle for him to not be the man, and he's not good enough to be that on a real contender. How does Thibs figure out the lineups when a lot of overlap potentially if they make all the moves they hope to, and a small lineup if they don't? How effective is Brunson when he's not a 30-35 ppg scorer if they bring OG back?

Basically this is like last off-season when we traded for KP but lost Smart and had question marks in Brogdon and Rob (although because of health, not free agency). Except they're hard capped and there's also no Jrue Holiday sitting out in the Pacific Northwest waiting for the Knicks to pick up the phone. If this doesn't work, the Knicks could be out of relevancy within a couple of seasons.



Pretty confident that Knicks lose OG this offseason

Reason 1: OG doesnt want to be 3rd or 4th fiddle
Reason 2: They would not have paid all that to secure bridges if they knew they had OG back
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Post#1072 » by Higgs Boston » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:17 pm

Good trade for Knicks, with this the OG trade makes more sense in terms of assets.
Now Knicks are serious franchise, I doubt they make this trade without having almost done the resigning of hartenstein and OG, they will likely dump robinson and other players to get it.
They are clearly the 2 best team in the East and It's likely a matchup with them in the playoffs.

Celtics really need another big wing.
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Post#1073 » by meatball sub » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:18 pm

watch OG go to philly lol
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Post#1074 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:22 pm

meatball sub wrote:watch OG go to philly lol



OG to SAS or Orlando, imo.

Love him at either place

Paul George or Jimmy to Philly.
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Post#1075 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:23 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:Good trade for Knicks, with this the OG trade makes more sense in terms of assets.
Now Knicks are serious franchise, I doubt they make this trade without having almost done the resigning of hartenstein and OG, they will likely dump robinson and other players to get it.
They are clearly the 2 best team in the East and It's likely a matchup with them in the playoffs.

Celtics really need another big wing.



They Knicks cannot resign both Hartenstein and OG as I understand it.

If they resign OG, Hartenstein would have to accept a contract at a 10th of the value he can have on open market.
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Post#1076 » by shackles10 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:28 pm

Higgs Boston wrote:Good trade for Knicks, with this the OG trade makes more sense in terms of assets.
Now Knicks are serious franchise, I doubt they make this trade without having almost done the resigning of hartenstein and OG, they will likely dump robinson and other players to get it.
They are clearly the 2 best team in the East and It's likely a matchup with them in the playoffs.

Celtics really need another big wing.


Unless they knew they were losing OG (and possibly Hartenstein too) so it's "almost done" in that sense. Jump on the Bridges train now before it gets out that Brooklyn is looking to move him and offers start coming in. If that's the case I don't think they're much better than last year (which was short of true contender status), but they're also the Knicks so can't afford to just be a treadmill team hoping Brunson can carry them there on his own when they're finally relevant again.
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Post#1077 » by Higgs Boston » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:29 pm

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Higgs Boston wrote:Good trade for Knicks, with this the OG trade makes more sense in terms of assets.
Now Knicks are serious franchise, I doubt they make this trade without having almost done the resigning of hartenstein and OG, they will likely dump robinson and other players to get it.
They are clearly the 2 best team in the East and It's likely a matchup with them in the playoffs.

Celtics really need another big wing.



They Knicks cannot resign both Hartenstein and OG as I understand it.

If they resign OG, Hartenstein would have to accept a contract at a 10th of the value he can have on open market.


I don't know, I did read they could if they dump salary, we will see.
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Post#1078 » by Larry_Russell » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:34 pm

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Higgs Boston wrote:Good trade for Knicks, with this the OG trade makes more sense in terms of assets.
Now Knicks are serious franchise, I doubt they make this trade without having almost done the resigning of hartenstein and OG, they will likely dump robinson and other players to get it.
They are clearly the 2 best team in the East and It's likely a matchup with them in the playoffs.

Celtics really need another big wing.



They Knicks cannot resign both Hartenstein and OG as I understand it.

If they resign OG, Hartenstein would have to accept a contract at a 10th of the value he can have on open market.


I don't know, I did read they could if they dump salary, we will see.



They would have to dump a bunch I think. Maybe not. Haven't cared enough to spend any real time looking into it
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Post#1079 » by Celts17Pride » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:52 pm

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Post#1080 » by hugepatsfan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:57 pm

Knicks are about $41.6M below the 1st apron right now with the following 12 players/cap holds:

Brunson / McBride
Bridges / DDV / DaQuan Jefferies
Hart
Randle / Mamadi Diakite
Robinson / Sims
+#24 and #25 pick tonight

Sign OG for a deal starting at $35M or so.

Salary dump Mitchell Robinson ($14.3M salary) and use that slot plus a little bit more maybe to keep Hartenstein.

Fill 14th and 15th spot with vet min. Depending on the final numbers, they might need to dump McBride and replace with a vet min. Maybe move off the picks tonight for smaller salaries 2nd rounders. Relatively small stuff though.

Numbers are tight, but I think there's a decent chance NYK can keep the following:

Brunson / McBride (maybe dumped though)
Bridges / DDV
OG / Hart
Randle
Hartenstein / Sims

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