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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#401 » by rosenthall » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:49 am

I decided ~ 5 days ago that Knecht was overrated. Not much of which he does outside of shooting translates. His usage was 33% in college, and it will probably be ~ 20% in the pros. Usage compression for non-athlete offense first prospects is a bad sign. Shannon is the better choice among 5th year guys.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#402 » by chicago paxsons » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:50 am

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Red8911 wrote:KC is wrong again.


Did something happen?

No nothing, but I think he’s wrong saying bulls don’t want to be competitive. No move has indicated that.


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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#403 » by rosenthall » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:50 am

McCain, DaSilva, Missi are all better prospects than Knecht.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#404 » by Jcool0 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:51 am

rosenthall wrote:I decided ~ 5 days ago that Knecht was overrated. Not much of which he does outside of shooting translates. His usage was 33% in college, and it will probably be ~ 20% in the pros. Usage compression for non-athlete offense first prospects is a bad sign. Shannon is the better choice among 5th year guys.


Everything he does translates
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Post#405 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:51 am

If Knecht dropping like this where will Shannon go due to age?
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#406 » by rosenthall » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:52 am

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rosenthall wrote:I decided ~ 5 days ago that Knecht was overrated. Not much of which he does outside of shooting translates. His usage was 33% in college, and it will probably be ~ 20% in the pros. Usage compression for non-athlete offense first prospects is a bad sign. Shannon is the better choice among 5th year guys.


Everything he does translates


He's not likely to be a good defender. He has good hops but not change of direction or a first step so I don't see him doing much off the dribble. He'll be a good shooter for sure, and a playable rotation player, but he does not have intriguing upside.

I won't be surprised if he hits Max Strus level, which is good at this point in the draft, but you don't take a guy like that top 10. For right now though he's an okay pick.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#407 » by samwana » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:52 am

Chi town wrote:If Knecht dropping like this where will Shannon go due to age?
Hopefully undrafted and staying in Chicago
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Post#408 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:53 am

ChiefILL53 wrote:
BullChit wrote:KC Johnson:

"Make no mistake: Not only is Zach LaVine available for trade, the Bulls are open for business. And with growing buzz that DeMar DeRozan will be elsewhere next season, either via a sign-or-trade or simply walking in unrestricted free agency, the buzzword is no longer competitiveness.

It's Cooper."


Idk man I'll believe it when we finally see a trade for Zach and Vooch.


Vuc doesn’t do much make us competitive and we need bodies at center. So he might stick around until the end of his deal. I don’t really care either way because the rebuild is clearly in swing.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#409 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:53 am

People really this shocked at Knect falling? he is basically Dougie McBuckets 2.0 which makes him no more than a bench role player...and he is already much older than most. I called this fall a month ago and no one believe me. Same with the last few days of all these people clamouring for TSJ at 10-12 range...another older player that will fall.

Both guys will be decent long term pros most likely but niether one is anything more than a role player for their career likely
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#410 » by kodo » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:54 am

Really strange for Knecht, word was he looked great in workouts.
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Post#411 » by Chicagoat » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:54 am

Givony seemed butthurt that Knecht is falling.
AKME? More like MEAK with how they're afraid to make a move to push us in one direction.

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Post#412 » by chicago paxsons » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:55 am

There was a trade and it wasn't chicago! :evil:
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Post#413 » by TheSuzerain » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:55 am

Let's trade back in.

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Post#414 » by Guru » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:55 am

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:People really this shocked at Knect falling? he is basically Dougie McBuckets 2.0 which makes him no more than a bench role player...and he is already much older than most. I called this fall a month ago and no one believe me. Same with the last few days of all these people clamouring for TSJ at 10-12 range...another older player that will fall.

Both guys will be decent long term pros most likely but niether one is anything more than a role player for their career likely


Knecht is twice the athlete mcbuckets is
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#415 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:56 am

chicago paxsons wrote:
Red8911 wrote:
chicago paxsons wrote:
Did something happen?

No nothing, but I think he’s wrong saying bulls don’t want to be competitive. No move has indicated that.


I can dream can't i! :pray:


I think KC is right. We aren’t gonna flat out tank, but if we lose a lot getting all these young players experience they are fine with it.

I just don’t see us keeping DeMar at this point and they will try as hard as possible to move Zach.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#416 » by chicago paxsons » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:57 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
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Red8911 wrote:No nothing, but I think he’s wrong saying bulls don’t want to be competitive. No move has indicated that.


I can dream can't i! :pray:


I think KC is right. We aren’t gonna flat out tank, but if we lose a lot getting all these young players experience they are fine with it.

I just don’t see us keeping DeMar at this point and they will try as hard as possible to move Zach.


I don't think i'm asking for the moon. I'm just tired of lavine in a bulls jersey.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#417 » by boundbymusic » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:57 am

ChiefILL53 wrote:
BullChit wrote:KC Johnson:

"Make no mistake: Not only is Zach LaVine available for trade, the Bulls are open for business. And with growing buzz that DeMar DeRozan will be elsewhere next season, either via a sign-or-trade or simply walking in unrestricted free agency, the buzzword is no longer competitiveness.

It's Cooper."


Idk man I'll believe it when we finally see a trade for Zach and Vooch.


I could make an argument that keeping Vooch helps us be bad.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#418 » by 2weekswithpay » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:58 am

ChiTownHero1992 wrote:People really this shocked at Knect falling? he is basically Dougie McBuckets 2.0 which makes him no more than a bench role player...and he is already much older than most. I called this fall a month ago and no one believe me. Same with the last few days of all these people clamouring for TSJ at 10-12 range...another older player that will fall.

Both guys will be decent long term pros most likely but niether one is anything more than a role player for their career likely


The biggest reason he's falling is age. Knecht and Doug don't have many similarities besides being white and shooting.
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#419 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:59 am

boundbymusic wrote:
ChiefILL53 wrote:
BullChit wrote:KC Johnson:

"Make no mistake: Not only is Zach LaVine available for trade, the Bulls are open for business. And with growing buzz that DeMar DeRozan will be elsewhere next season, either via a sign-or-trade or simply walking in unrestricted free agency, the buzzword is no longer competitiveness.

It's Cooper."


Idk man I'll believe it when we finally see a trade for Zach and Vooch.


I could make an argument that keeping Vooch helps us be bad.


Nah. He's going to bum slay and win enough games to get us the 7th pick. :cry:
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Re: Official: Draft Day Game Thread 

Post#420 » by Muzbar » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:59 am

Knecht is a Reddick pick for sure.
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