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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1981 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:17 am

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AI_Efficiency wrote:He’s also 20 years old! I would love to be proven wrong, but the idea he can be a key factor on a championship team in the next few years (i.e. Embiid’s prime) is silly imo. Knecht at 23 at least had somewhat of a chance at contributing sooner imo.


Maxey, also 23 years old, was contributing at 21 years old.

McCain has the most translatable shooting profile to the NBA with one of the most pure forms. I also can't emphasize his ability to rebound enough. Those two things suggest he can be a contributor before he turns 21 years old much less 23.



Maxey is special wtf. Maxey is one of the fastest players in the league. Maxey is also a Jrue Holiday level defender coming from duke. Maxey had that it factor . This ain't it lol


What? He was ass on defense at Kentucky (not Duke).

We haven’t seen McCain play an NBA minute yet so we can’t determine if he has “it” or not. Maxey spent his entire rookie year coming off the bench and was a low 30% 3Fg shooter. What kind of revisionist history are you trying to sell me here?
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Post#1982 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:19 am

This is screaming Jaden Springer lol
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1983 » by eyeatoma » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 am

Warming up to McCain, the vibes with him and Maxey will be pretty amazing.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1984 » by 76ciology » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:This is screaming Jaden Springer lol


This reminds me of when we added Seth Curry to the team. Initially, his addition received a lot of backlash, especially after his first few games where he struggled to score. Eventually, he found his rhythm and became our second-best scorer, effectively playing J.J. Redick’s role. However, this success was short-lived when the Hawks, particularly Kevin Huerter, exploited Seth’s defensive weaknesses in the playoffs.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1985 » by stormi » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:23 am

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Maxey, also 23 years old, was contributing at 21 years old.

McCain has the most translatable shooting profile to the NBA with one of the most pure forms. I also can't emphasize his ability to rebound enough. Those two things suggest he can be a contributor before he turns 21 years old much less 23.



Maxey is special wtf. Maxey is one of the fastest players in the league. Maxey is also a Jrue Holiday level defender coming from duke. Maxey had that it factor . This ain't it lol


What? He was ass on defense at Kentucky (not Duke).

We haven’t seen McCain play an NBA minute yet so we can’t determine if he has “it” or not. Maxey spent his entire rookie year coming off the bench and was a low 30% 3Fg shooter. What kind of revisionist history are you trying to sell me here?


He is right about the athleticism though. Maxey is essentially a generational athlete for the guard position in terms of speed and change of speed. He also has a moderately plus wingspan.

Maxey didn't shoot well at Kentucky, but the FT numbers were there and he's someone who shot 40% at every level, so it was to be an expected outlier. Also had confidence to take and make them from NBA range.

I believe that specialists have a role in the NBA and that elite traits win out. McCain has a lot of question marks, but the shot is unquestionably pure both in transition and in the half court, he is a competitive defender and rebounder and a developing passer.

His game is kind of scrapy, reminds me of Lowry in terms of how he uses his physicality and craftiness to win around the rim, but without the over the top gamesmanship.

Drafting worse players to fit a need is viewing the puzzle way too linearly.

By the time McCain is a contributor in a year or two we might have acquired three or four athletic wings that need some shooting supplementation. It's no guarantee that any of these guys will make it to the league so you're indebted to yourself to draft those you think have the highest odds.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1986 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:26 am

if Morey fills out the roster with nothing by 6'3 shooters then yeah I get being mad

current roster is Maxey, McCain, Council , Biid ,Reed

I am all for opinions but I honestly don't grasp the reasoning people are using rn. Mad about the defensive fit but clamoring for Knecht or the skinny Walter (who mind you I would have been fine with either). Worrying about not having size (which neither guy would have helped with) when the roster again only has 4-5 guys on it lol.

Just feels like people are getting their rage off pre-emptively atm with what we know RIGHT NOW.


(also quiet part out loud here....nothing we do this offseason makes us obviously better than the other contenders; still going to be in the hope for a fluke run status in which other teams either take each other out or get hurt while we somehow don't for once....which again would have been the case no matter who we take

now to each their own of course and I will never claim to be a genius know it all but for ME I expected to trade for some old washed vet or a boring prospect like Da Silva; so my low bar has been met lol. When Darryl runs it back with the same squad that is old and slow, then I will join you more than likely...but tonight could have gone way worse imo
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1987 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:28 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:This is screaming Jaden Springer lol

....
wut

McCain is at least a guard and not a tiny power forward.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1988 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:33 am

stormi wrote:
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LeonJordanJr24 wrote:

Maxey is special wtf. Maxey is one of the fastest players in the league. Maxey is also a Jrue Holiday level defender coming from duke. Maxey had that it factor . This ain't it lol


What? He was ass on defense at Kentucky (not Duke).

We haven’t seen McCain play an NBA minute yet so we can’t determine if he has “it” or not. Maxey spent his entire rookie year coming off the bench and was a low 30% 3Fg shooter. What kind of revisionist history are you trying to sell me here?


He is right about the athleticism though. Maxey is essentially a generational athlete for the guard position in terms of speed and change of speed. He also has a moderately plus wingspan.

Maxey didn't shoot well at Kentucky, but the FT numbers were there and he's someone who shot 40% at every level, so it was to be an expected outlier. Also had confidence to take and make them from NBA range.

I believe that specialists have a role in the NBA and that elite traits win out. McCain has a lot of question marks, but the shot is unquestionably pure both in transition and in the half court, he is a competitive defender and rebounder and a developing passer.

His game is kind of scrapy, reminds me of Lowry in terms of how he uses his physicality and craftiness to win around the rim, but without the over the top gamesmanship.

Drafting worse players to fit a need is viewing the puzzle way too linearly.

By the time McCain is a contributor in a year or two we might have acquired three or four athletic wings that need some shooting supplementation. It's no guarantee that any of these guys will make it to the league so you're indebted to yourself to draft those you think have the highest odds.


Agree with your post. I don’t think McCain needs to be a duplicate of Maxey to be a “special” player in the league. I already like how he projects as a shooter more than Maxey as his form lends to tough contested shotmaking while Maxey has to work considerably more with his lower release. They are different in how they put pressure on the defense, but they both work exceptionally well (theoretically with McCain) in their fit with Embiid.

I’ve said it all along in the draft thread: he’s one of a very few prospects in this draft that hits almost every single marker of a star in the NBA. The fact that he was at our pick is kind of crazy. Even if he’s a microwave scorer off the bench, that’s excellent value at the 16th pick in a dog **** draft.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1989 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:39 am

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Happy to hear this, but we’re running out of other options this off-season.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1990 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:42 am

if he's "only" a 6th man....

guess what we **** need that too lol.
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Post#1991 » by FireMorey » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:46 am

Ingram is gone they aren’t gonna pay him.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1992 » by M2J » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:00 am

Truly, I don't have a problem with the pick. I wanted Philly to get the center that Miami took right ahead, but getting a versatile shooter that fits this system perfectly, who has a high motor, is strong and has the ability to contribute defensively isn't the worst role player you can draft.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1993 » by Jhawk03 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:15 am

The irony isn't lost on me, but I remember Hinkie being criticized for drafting centers all the time. Now we're critical of Morey because he has a Wizard of Oz fetish. I can't wait to be critical of the all wing team 10 years from now after Morey is gone. We might even get a nice promotion from Wingstop by then.

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