Olympic Qualifiers Results: Brazil, Spain, Greece and Puerto Rico Off to Paris!
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Hope some of them take a game from the US so 'Murican overreaction media can absolutely shart themselves on air.
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UcanUwill wrote:_jin wrote:durden_tyler wrote:Recent warm-up games involving teams participating in the OQTs the last few days:
Finland 73, New Zealand 70
Slovenia 70, Lithuania 68
Greece 86, Montenegro 57
Italy 87, Spain 84
Dominican Republic 80, Portugal 79
Latvia 84, Egypt 63
Croatia 91, Brazil 81
Montegro 93, Bahamas 80
39pts for Hezonja on 16/26 FG 5/11 3P and 6 rebounds. Great game from Saric as well with 20/9/6.
I am telling you guys, we might not see Giannis nor Luka in these Olympics.
i thought i saw somewhere that Luka is committed— perhaps just lip service since those knees might still be hurting. I feel the pain for Dallas fans, they’ll suffer throughout these qualifiers and might be cheering against Slovenia so that Luka will not play in Paris. LOL
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durden_tyler wrote:UcanUwill wrote:_jin wrote:39pts for Hezonja on 16/26 FG 5/11 3P and 6 rebounds. Great game from Saric as well with 20/9/6.
I am telling you guys, we might not see Giannis nor Luka in these Olympics.
i thought i saw somewhere that Luka is committed— perhaps just lip service since those knees might still be hurting. I feel the pain for Dallas fans, they’ll suffer throughout these qualifiers and might be cheering against Slovenia so that Luka will not play in Paris. LOL
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Luka will play, my point that Croatia could eliminate these guys, people sleeping on that team.
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Slovenia just cut Tobey. You were the best American willing to play for us, until you weren't... Welcome Josh Nebo.
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How strong is this Turkey team? It’s the preparation games and they are leading just by 2 pts against the Philippines, who is one of the weakest teams in this OQTs. Are they missing key players?
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durden_tyler wrote:How strong is this Turkey team? It’s the preparation games and they are leading just by 2 pts against the Philippines, who is one of the weakest teams in this OQTs. Are they missing key players?
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Turkey at full force is not that strong, but ok. I am pretty sure Turkey you are seeing is not very good, since they did not even qualify for qualification, they were eliminated by Croatia last year, so whatever you seeing is just a B or C squad I imagine, I am not even sure why are they playing games, is there there EUrobasket qualification games going on? I am not sure why Turkey has a team right now, just to practice..?
If you could provide a box score, I could try to asses what kind of players are there playing, but I imagine those aren't very good. Outside of Şengün, Şanlı, Biberović, Korkmaz, Osman and naturalized PG they always have, Turkey really has nothing worthy these days, and even the guys I mention, outside of Şengün, those guys are mid. Larkin is good if hes playing for them.
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Bahamas not looking very good, down 67-45 to Greece in the 3rd, their defense is atrocious but they're getting better offensively. They were chucking 3s in the 1st at a 2/15 rate but they only took 4 since then and have started and tried to play team ball. They really can't defend though, Greece are shooting 90% from 2pt just by walking to the basket. Giannis looking healthy even though he's not trying hard.
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UcanUwill wrote:durden_tyler wrote:How strong is this Turkey team? It’s the preparation games and they are leading just by 2 pts against the Philippines, who is one of the weakest teams in this OQTs. Are they missing key players?
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Turkey at full force is not that strong, but ok. I am pretty sure Turkey you are seeing is not very good, since they did not even qualify for qualification, they were eliminated by Croatia last year, so whatever you seeing is just a B or C squad I imagine, I am not even sure why are they playing games, is there there EUrobasket qualification games going on? I am not sure why Turkey has a team right now, just to practice..?
If you could provide a box score, I could try to asses what kind of players are there playing, but I imagine those aren't very good. Outside of Şengün, Şanlı, Biberović, Korkmaz, Osman and naturalized PG they always have, Turkey really has nothing worthy these days, and even the guys I mention, outside of Şengün, those guys are mid. Larkin is good if hes playing for them.
Sorry can’t find boxscore, but what i saw was that Biberovic, Kormacz (is this the NBA player or brother?) and another guard that took over in the 2nd half for an 84-73 win.
Overall, good workout for our team. We have another warm up game (Poland) Friday before the actual OQT games against Latvia and Georgia. i know we’re outmatched against the hosts but hoping we have a shot against Georgia but that’s just the optimist in me. LOL
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Greece beats Bahamas 102-75. Mitoglou 18pts, Giannis 14pts in 14mins, Calathes 11 assists. Eric Gordon didnt play so he had the same amount of points that he had vs Montenegro. Same with Ayton, Mobley and Jones. VJ Edgecombe led Bahamas with 13pts, AJ Storr with 11, Hield was horrible, just chucked all game long (9pts on 1/12 3P).
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_jin wrote:Greece beats Bahamas 102-75. Mitoglou 18pts, Giannis 14pts in 14mins, Calathes 11 assists. Eric Gordon didnt play so he had the same amount of points that he had vs Montenegro. Same with Ayton, Mobley and Jones. VJ Edgecombe led Bahamas with 13pts, AJ Storr with 11, Hield was horrible, just chucked all game long (9pts on 1/12 3P).
I guess the main takeaway is that Giannis looks healthy.
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durden_tyler wrote:UcanUwill wrote:durden_tyler wrote:
Perhaps in previous years but not this cycle. Australia's quality is nearer to that of South Sudan and Japan. Sure maybe slightly better but in no way or form they are in the same level as the other top teams.
You are being too harsh. I do not know their current roster, did everyone decline? THey still have Giddey, Daniels, Exum, Landale, Thybulle, Josh Green, Ingles, Cooks. That team is sweat.
Sure, they can make some games competitive with that line-up but calling them medal contenders, that's disrespect to the top teams
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
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AussieCeltic wrote:You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
Το be fair, who would've thought that this Team USA would have forgotten what a box out is... they were embarrassing to watch, I don't know how Kerr & Spo got away with it.
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Pachinko_ wrote:AussieCeltic wrote:You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
Το be fair, who would've thought that this Team USA would have forgotten what a box out is... they were embarrassing to watch, I don't know how Kerr & Spo got away with it.
It's like the selection and coaching staffs both said "it's not called reboundball".
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AussieCeltic wrote:durden_tyler wrote:UcanUwill wrote:
You are being too harsh. I do not know their current roster, did everyone decline? THey still have Giddey, Daniels, Exum, Landale, Thybulle, Josh Green, Ingles, Cooks. That team is sweat.
Sure, they can make some games competitive with that line-up but calling them medal contenders, that's disrespect to the top teams
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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durden_tyler wrote:AussieCeltic wrote:durden_tyler wrote:
Sure, they can make some games competitive with that line-up but calling them medal contenders, that's disrespect to the top teams
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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If Australia wins a medal, wouldnt be shocking in the slightest, I really do not understand what you are talking about. How many teams there, will actually have better roster and odds, maybe 5 or 6? If Australia loses to Canada or Serbia by 30 points, its far more shocking result than Australia beating Japan or Sudan by 30. In fact, they probably will beat such teams by 30.
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UcanUwill wrote:durden_tyler wrote:AussieCeltic wrote:
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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If Australia wins a medal, wouldnt be shocking in the slightest, I really do not understand what you are talking about. How many teams there, will actually have better roster and odds, maybe 5 or 6? If Australia loses to Canada or Serbia by 30 points, its far more shocking result than Australia beating Japan or Sudan by 30. In fact, they probably will beat such teams by 30.
Sure. But wouldn’t also be surprising to see Australia go winless in their group. Not medal contenders at all so rather focus on which teams actually has a chance to pull off the upset in the KO rounds.
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durden_tyler wrote:UcanUwill wrote:durden_tyler wrote:They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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If Australia wins a medal, wouldnt be shocking in the slightest, I really do not understand what you are talking about. How many teams there, will actually have better roster and odds, maybe 5 or 6? If Australia loses to Canada or Serbia by 30 points, its far more shocking result than Australia beating Japan or Sudan by 30. In fact, they probably will beat such teams by 30.
Sure. But wouldn’t also be surprising to see Australia go winless in their group. Not medal contenders at all so rather focus on which teams actually has a chance to pull off the upset in the KO rounds.
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What does that mean, so Australia are not medal contenders and cant pull off the upset, but you agree it wouldn't be shocking if they do win medal? SO which is it? its Olympics, it has 12 teams total, 10 of which usually compete for a medal. Yes, Australia is in the the group with Canada and what most likely be SPain and Greece/SLovenia/Croatia. Yes, they can go without a single win, but you can say the same about all the other 3 teams in that group, those are 4 elite FIBA giants. I mean, I would be stunned if Canada just goes there and ends up 0-3, but if Greece or Spain does that, would I be shocked, no, of course I wouldn't.
Which teams here can ''pull off an upset'' then? This is FIBA Olympics, most teams are competing for medals, there aren't upsetters here, Serbia, USA, Canada, Australia, France, Germany and maybe 3 out of 4 qualy teams, will compete for medal and it would not be upset if they win.
There are only 2 teams here, whose wins would be in fact huge upsets, and those as you said are - Japan, and South Sudan. THis is not World cup, WOrld Cup has 32 teams, half of them not competitive whatsoever. Olympics has only 12 teams, 10 of which are basically best of the entire world.
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_jin wrote:Greece beats Bahamas 102-75. Mitoglou 18pts, Giannis 14pts in 14mins, Calathes 11 assists. Eric Gordon didnt play so he had the same amount of points that he had vs Montenegro. Same with Ayton, Mobley and Jones. VJ Edgecombe led Bahamas with 13pts, AJ Storr with 11, Hield was horrible, just chucked all game long (9pts on 1/12 3P).
Bahamas have no chance to compete with Spain at their turf. None.
I very much doubt they even make it to the final. This a team sport first and foremost.
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durden_tyler wrote:AussieCeltic wrote:durden_tyler wrote:
Sure, they can make some games competitive with that line-up but calling them medal contenders, that's disrespect to the top teams
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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They’re not nearer to Japan and South Sudan bro.
They’ll be competing vs Canada and in their group. Will they be favs? No. But the betting lines would be closer with the teams in their groups than it would be vs Japan and South Sudan.
The only delusional person is you, like last time when you said USA were locks at $1.80. I called you out then pre tournament and I’m calling you out now pre tournament.
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AussieCeltic wrote:durden_tyler wrote:AussieCeltic wrote:
You have no idea on international ball.
I remember you said USA was value at $1.80 to win gold at the world champs pre tournament. Remember you said it was a sure thing??
Saying Australia is mixed in with the likes of Japan and South Sudan just again proves my point
They are not one of the medal contenders and NEARER to the Japans and Sudans and not those top teams. But you can be delusional too.
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They’re not nearer to Japan and South Sudan bro.
They’ll be competing vs Canada and in their group. Will they be favs? No. But the betting lines would be closer with the teams in their groups than it would be vs Japan and South Sudan.
The only delusional person is you, like last time when you said USA were locks at $1.80. I called you out then pre tournament and I’m calling you out now pre tournament.
You win some you lose some, that's why aside from the futures you also have to take it per game (like betting against Australia in the recent World Cup. LOL).
You might be correct though, i might be underrating them but i don't believe this Australian squad is as good as your NT before-- and once again, one of the "must fade" teams in the tournament. That said, got to be smart about it, change mind midstream if that's what needed. No need to be a fanboy if you want to get those $$$ in betting (like betting for your Boston, even though i hate them it was free money all playoffs long. LOL).
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