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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1881 » by closg00 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:25 pm

dobrojim wrote:IDK. Fair question. Would keeping her on the ticket help or hurt more?
I'm asking. I don't know the answer. The point has to be to win and then
be happy with the job they are likely to do.


I thought long-ago that Harris was a drag on Biden’s re-election, and that she should have “resigned”, now they both have to go in the interest in saving Democracy.
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Post#1882 » by Zonkerbl » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:19 pm

I'm just going to put my hands over my ears and yell "lalalalalala" for a few weeks, by then we'll know more. Is Biden really cooked by his debate performance or is it just msm hype? Only a very small number of people paid attention to the debate, does it matter? Or do people just root for their team and as long as the nominated candidate is currently alive and breathing that's good enough?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1883 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:38 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1884 » by closg00 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:55 pm

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Biden will drop out, there is an uprising for him to step down.
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Post#1885 » by Kanyewest » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:13 pm

closg00 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
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Biden will drop out, there is an uprising for him to step down.

Still not sure if it will happen but CNN/MSNBC and progressive media are calling for it to happen. Nate Silver and David Axelrod have been saying that Biden was too old even prior to the debate. Will it happen is another thing because Biden's people appear to be trying to keep Biden in the thick of things

But I don't think fox news has anything to do with it. It is because people have their own perspective. Older people in my family who are more moderate and who gave money to Biden in the primary cycle last election were even calling for Bernie Sander would be much better in the debate. Granted, it is far more likely that another moderate would take Biden's place hypothetically like Newsom or Whitmer. Among friends my age though, many are resigned that Biden is going to lose and only 1 appears willing to volunteer to help him out.

The panic has some side benefits in that people are worried and that Biden has raised more money. Still, Biden is not exactly providing reassurances and the confidence among Democrats appears to be very low. Especially with Congress in play on the ballot.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1886 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:52 pm

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Pointgod wrote:
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Biden will drop out, there is an uprising for him to step down.


The uprising is mostly from the media and pundits but no one has provided a solution as to who should replace him, how that candidate will get money since they can’t use the money already given to Biden and Harris, how you’ll get 100% of delegates, insiders etc to agree on a candidate and how you explain alienating the millions of voters who have already selected Biden in the primary. Its easy to fire off a tweet when you don’t actually have to do any work or be accountable for anything.
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Post#1887 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:54 pm

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closg00 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
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Biden will drop out, there is an uprising for him to step down.

Still not sure if it will happen but CNN/MSNBC and progressive media are calling for it to happen. Nate Silver and David Axelrod have been saying that Biden was too old even prior to the debate. Will it happen is another thing because Biden's people appear to be trying to keep Biden in the thick of things

But I don't think fox news has anything to do with it. It is because people have their own perspective. Older people in my family who are more moderate and who gave money to Biden in the primary cycle last election were even calling for Bernie Sander would be much better in the debate. Granted, it is far more likely that another moderate would take Biden's place hypothetically like Newsom or Whitmer. Among friends my age though, many are resigned that Biden is going to lose and only 1 appears willing to volunteer to help him out.

The panic has some side benefits in that people are worried and that Biden has raised more money. Still, Biden is not exactly providing reassurances and the confidence among Democrats appears to be very low. Especially with Congress in play on the ballot.


How many people do you know that we’re going to vote for Biden won’t now? Its telling that everyone wants to complain and be resigned but there’s only one person who will do the one thing that can make sure Trump doesn’t win…..volunteer
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Post#1888 » by Doug_Blew » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:51 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:I'm just going to put my hands over my ears and yell "lalalalalala" for a few weeks, by then we'll know more. Is Biden really cooked by his debate performance or is it just msm hype? Only a very small number of people paid attention to the debate, does it matter? Or do people just root for their team and as long as the nominated candidate is currently alive and breathing that's good enough?


Only a small number of people watched the debate, but almost everyone that pays the slightest attention (like me) has heard how bad Biden was. I voted for Biden and liked what the adminstration has done. But i'm kind of wishing that he would get replaced. If he looks as bad in the next debate, then he will not win the election.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1889 » by Benjammin » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:56 pm

51 million people watched the debate or parts of it. Many millions more have seen the most damaging clips. It's disingenuous to say few people saw it. At the same time, if he has no other issues whatsoever in the next four months it's quite survivable. How likely is that?



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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1890 » by Kanyewest » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:02 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
closg00 wrote:
Biden will drop out, there is an uprising for him to step down.

Still not sure if it will happen but CNN/MSNBC and progressive media are calling for it to happen. Nate Silver and David Axelrod have been saying that Biden was too old even prior to the debate. Will it happen is another thing because Biden's people appear to be trying to keep Biden in the thick of things

But I don't think fox news has anything to do with it. It is because people have their own perspective. Older people in my family who are more moderate and who gave money to Biden in the primary cycle last election were even calling for Bernie Sander would be much better in the debate. Granted, it is far more likely that another moderate would take Biden's place hypothetically like Newsom or Whitmer. Among friends my age though, many are resigned that Biden is going to lose and only 1 appears willing to volunteer to help him out.

The panic has some side benefits in that people are worried and that Biden has raised more money. Still, Biden is not exactly providing reassurances and the confidence among Democrats appears to be very low. Especially with Congress in play on the ballot.


How many people do you know that we’re going to vote for Biden won’t now? Its telling that everyone wants to complain and be resigned but there’s only one person who will do the one thing that can make sure Trump doesn’t win…..volunteer


Yeah- not myself included. One person has a project in the government agency and stands to lose if Trump will lose his job and hasn't said anything about volunteering but is more or less resigned. I have a friend in PA though who said he will do his part and volunteer or the very least try to convince undecided to vote for Biden.
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Post#1891 » by Pointgod » Sun Jun 30, 2024 11:57 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:Still not sure if it will happen but CNN/MSNBC and progressive media are calling for it to happen. Nate Silver and David Axelrod have been saying that Biden was too old even prior to the debate. Will it happen is another thing because Biden's people appear to be trying to keep Biden in the thick of things

But I don't think fox news has anything to do with it. It is because people have their own perspective. Older people in my family who are more moderate and who gave money to Biden in the primary cycle last election were even calling for Bernie Sander would be much better in the debate. Granted, it is far more likely that another moderate would take Biden's place hypothetically like Newsom or Whitmer. Among friends my age though, many are resigned that Biden is going to lose and only 1 appears willing to volunteer to help him out.

The panic has some side benefits in that people are worried and that Biden has raised more money. Still, Biden is not exactly providing reassurances and the confidence among Democrats appears to be very low. Especially with Congress in play on the ballot.


How many people do you know that we’re going to vote for Biden won’t now? Its telling that everyone wants to complain and be resigned but there’s only one person who will do the one thing that can make sure Trump doesn’t win…..volunteer


Yeah- not myself included. One person has a project in the government agency and stands to lose if Trump will lose his job and hasn't said anything about volunteering but is more or less resigned. I have a friend in PA though who said he will do his part and volunteer or the very least try to convince undecided to vote for Biden.


So has anyone said this changed their vote to voting Trump or sitting out? I get the concern, especially if you didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m genuinely curious how many people are like I was going to vote for Biden but because of the debate I’ll let the convicted rapist traitor who’s brain is turning to mush win.
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Post#1892 » by Kanyewest » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:39 am

Pointgod wrote:
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Pointgod wrote:
How many people do you know that we’re going to vote for Biden won’t now? Its telling that everyone wants to complain and be resigned but there’s only one person who will do the one thing that can make sure Trump doesn’t win…..volunteer


Yeah- not myself included. One person has a project in the government agency and stands to lose if Trump will lose his job and hasn't said anything about volunteering but is more or less resigned. I have a friend in PA though who said he will do his part and volunteer or the very least try to convince undecided to vote for Biden.


So has anyone said this changed their vote to voting Trump or sitting out? I get the concern, especially if you didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m genuinely curious how many people are like I was going to vote for Biden but because of the debate I’ll let the convicted rapist traitor who’s brain is turning to mush win.


I met someone who is Ukranian/American who is now supporting Trump. Seemed like Biden being a weak candidate (or at least admittedly) may have emboldened him more than anything to support Trump. I was actually kind of surprised because all the aid to Ukraine could go away with Trump, but he's actually been to Ukraine this year and he said the people there are losing the will to fight. I wouldn't take anything he said too seriously though because he is interested in increasing his own wealth- self admittedly.
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Post#1893 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:37 am

Benjammin wrote:51 million people watched the debate or parts of it. Many millions more have seen the most damaging clips. It's disingenuous to say few people saw it. At the same time, if he has no other issues whatsoever in the next four months it's quite survivable. How likely is that?



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That's a third of those who voted in the last election, assuming those who watched will all vote, which half probably will not

Hey, I would love to see Gavin Newsome get picked to replace Biden. I think it's more likely that Biden will just die of old age in the next five months. Right now I'm trying to plan out how long it will take for Trump to figure out a way to make federal employees sign loyalty pledges and force me to quit my job. I have a backup consulting plan but I need another year or two for it to work
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Post#1894 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:06 pm

Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
How many people do you know that we’re going to vote for Biden won’t now? Its telling that everyone wants to complain and be resigned but there’s only one person who will do the one thing that can make sure Trump doesn’t win…..volunteer


Yeah- not myself included. One person has a project in the government agency and stands to lose if Trump will lose his job and hasn't said anything about volunteering but is more or less resigned. I have a friend in PA though who said he will do his part and volunteer or the very least try to convince undecided to vote for Biden.


So has anyone said this changed their vote to voting Trump or sitting out? I get the concern, especially if you didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m genuinely curious how many people are like I was going to vote for Biden but because of the debate I’ll let the convicted rapist traitor who’s brain is turning to mush win.


My sister in law visited last weekend and said she would sit this election out rather than vote for Biden.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1895 » by Fairview4Life » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:36 pm

I’ve decided not to leave the house because there are potholes on the roads.
9. Similarly, IF THOU HAST SPENT the entire offseason predicting that thy team will stink, thou shalt not gloat, nor even be happy, shouldst thou turn out to be correct. Realistic analysis is fine, but be a fan first, a smug smarty-pants second.
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Post#1896 » by closg00 » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:48 pm

Oh-well, I thought moment was building to dump Joe, instead we are getting spin and doubling-down, the DNC machine is determined to take us all over a cliff.
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Post#1897 » by Pointgod » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:58 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
Yeah- not myself included. One person has a project in the government agency and stands to lose if Trump will lose his job and hasn't said anything about volunteering but is more or less resigned. I have a friend in PA though who said he will do his part and volunteer or the very least try to convince undecided to vote for Biden.


So has anyone said this changed their vote to voting Trump or sitting out? I get the concern, especially if you didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m genuinely curious how many people are like I was going to vote for Biden but because of the debate I’ll let the convicted rapist traitor who’s brain is turning to mush win.


My sister in law visited last weekend and said she would sit this election out rather than vote for Biden.


The question is did she vote for Biden last election? I’d suggest you calmly explain the stakes to her.
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Post#1898 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:01 pm

Pointgod wrote:
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So has anyone said this changed their vote to voting Trump or sitting out? I get the concern, especially if you didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m genuinely curious how many people are like I was going to vote for Biden but because of the debate I’ll let the convicted rapist traitor who’s brain is turning to mush win.


My sister in law visited last weekend and said she would sit this election out rather than vote for Biden.


The question is did she vote for Biden last election? I’d suggest you calmly explain the stakes to her.


I'm going to see how things play out. By the time November rolls around she'll have completely forgotten about this debate.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1899 » by Pointgod » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:06 pm

closg00 wrote:Oh-well, I thought moment was building to dump Joe, instead we are getting spin and doubling-down, the DNC machine is determined to take us all over a cliff.


This is what you sound like

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Take a breath and get off social media because it’s bad for you. Pundits don’t know ****.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXXII 

Post#1900 » by Zonkerbl » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:09 pm

Ok, racist palate cleanser!

What do you all think on the research coming out about the objectively quantifiable amount of neanderthal DNA in populations from different continents?

https://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals

Neanderthals evolved in Europe, Homo Sapiens evolved in Africa. Subpopulations from Africa have the least neanderthal dna in them (although not zero), Europeans have about 2% on average, and because of weird migration patterns East Asians have a lot more.

So what do you think guys?! Can neanderthals jump? Does science support racism now? Or, to be precise, if neanderthals had heavier bones and such that made them less athletic, is there a scientific basis to claim that homo sapiens with African ancestry can jump higher, on average, than those of European ancestry????
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