Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy?

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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#21 » by Cactus Jack » Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:45 pm

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David Tepper has been the worst owner in the NFL since buying the team. He does want to win but he keeps making all the wrong decisions.

Bryce Young 5"8' over CJ being the biggest. I dont see Bryce being any better this season either. Panthers still going to suck for the foreseeable future.

A bad owner is probably the worst outcome for a fanbase. I know first-hand losing the Sonics.

Bluejerseyjinx can tell you all about Jerry Jones & his tenure owning the Cowboys.


Oh he used to be a Cowboys fan....

Still is. But Mahomes won him over.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#22 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:59 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:A bad owner is probably the worst outcome for a fanbase. I know first-hand losing the Sonics.

Bluejerseyjinx can tell you all about Jerry Jones & his tenure owning the Cowboys.


Oh he used to be a Cowboys fan....

Still is. But Mahomes won him over.

I'm not sure you can call him a Cowboys fan... more like a Cowboys very dedicated complainer.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#23 » by bluejerseyjinx » Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:20 pm

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Cactus Jack wrote:David Tepper is Dan Snyder on steroids. Tough days ahead for that crowd.


David Tepper has been the worst owner in the NFL since buying the team. He does want to win but he keeps making all the wrong decisions.

Bryce Young 5"8' over CJ being the biggest. I dont see Bryce being any better this season either. Panthers still going to suck for the foreseeable future.

A bad owner is probably the worst outcome for a fanbase. I know first-hand losing the Sonics.

Bluejerseyjinx can tell you all about Jerry Jones & his tenure owning the Cowboys.

I'll pass on that. Cowboy fans and posters were all talking about how bad Jerry was and was going to be, back in the ESPN form days before going to Sportshoopla and then here 9 years later. Since about 2002, the old guard Cowboy fans have pretty much thrown Jerry under the bus for many of reasons, some if not most you already know about. I'm trying to be as nice as I can here but many said he would be a on-going cancer and today, its hard to make a case against them when you factor all the results.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#24 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:17 pm

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Me being a Panthers fan has nothing to do with this, Im a Panthers fan because im from NC. Your a Chiefs fan because they have the best QB.

Im sure a few years ago you were a "Pats fan"

Glad you know me so well. :cheesygrin: You must be a newbi. Someone just inserted foot into mouth with that assumption. :jawdrop:


Admittedly I am kind of new to this site, but your choice of teams is suspect at best. You have favorite teams from every corner of the country and all of them have had great success at some points.

Considering several of my posts got and 1'd, I would guess im not too far off base.

When your from Maine and have no pro teams in your state, your not loyal to any particular city or team. If I really wanted or cared I could easily prove my loyalty to all my teams since I was a kid in the 70's. To me, you just come across as the typical New Yorker that is royally pissed the Celtics won their first chip in 15 years.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#25 » by bluejerseyjinx » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:25 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:We all know the Panthers are not on the list.


Me being a Panthers fan has nothing to do with this, Im a Panthers fan because im from NC. Your a Chiefs fan because they have the best QB.

Im sure a few years ago you were a "Pats fan"

PS. Somewhere in these back pages in this site, I made a bold statement as a lifelong Cowboy fan after the Chiefs won their first Super Bowl. I stated that we might be witnessing the best QB in the NFL and took a lot of heat from it from quite a few posters. Its not like I personally didn't see it coming or like the kid from the start, but tell me what is there not to like about Mahomes and where I am wrong.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#26 » by WentzerWuver » Mon Jul 1, 2024 12:57 am

Nunuu wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Panther fans really have nothing to talk about regarding their team and their wonderful history. I understand their frustration being the modern day version of the N.Y, Jets.

David Tepper is Dan Snyder on steroids. Tough days ahead for that crowd.


David Tepper has been the worst owner in the NFL since buying the team. He does want to win but he keeps making all the wrong decisions.

Bryce Young 5"8' over CJ being the biggest. I dont see Bryce being any better this season either. Panthers still going to suck for the foreseeable future.
Prior to that draft, the majority of sports analysts have the generational talented Bryce as also the most NFL ready QB to succeed but after the season, those same fans flip flop over to CJ and blame their owner for drafting the wrong QB. I had Bryce as my top QB but was playing for an organization mismanaged by an incompetent GM and a meddling owner who are under this belief that the QB position alone can win championships otherwise they would have never traded their best playmaker DJ Moore.

https://youtube.com/shorts/pa8MeatMYZM?si=hfRUCyhaBtovVHoe

I am certain that had they drafted CJ first overall while the Texans had taken Bryce, whom they wanted all along, the regular season end results for both teams would not have changed that much. Like all top QB prospects, Bryce deserves 3 seasons playing the NFL before he can even be considered a bust.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#27 » by Nunuu » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:24 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
Nunuu wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:David Tepper is Dan Snyder on steroids. Tough days ahead for that crowd.


David Tepper has been the worst owner in the NFL since buying the team. He does want to win but he keeps making all the wrong decisions.

Bryce Young 5"8' over CJ being the biggest. I dont see Bryce being any better this season either. Panthers still going to suck for the foreseeable future.
Prior to that draft, the majority of sports analysts have the generational talented Bryce as also the most NFL ready QB to succeed but after the season, those same fans flip flop over to CJ and blame their owner for drafting the wrong QB. I had Bryce as my top QB but was playing for an organization mismanaged by an incompetent GM and a meddling owner who are under this belief that the QB position alone can win championships otherwise they would have never traded their best playmaker DJ Moore.

https://youtube.com/shorts/pa8MeatMYZM?si=hfRUCyhaBtovVHoe

I am certain that had they drafted CJ first overall while the Texans had taken Bryce, whom they wanted all along, the regular season end results for both teams would not have changed that much. Like all top QB prospects, Bryce deserves 3 seasons playing the NFL before he can even be considered a bust.


Bryce is garbage, he doesnt have the measurables to succeed in the NFL past the level of a Teddy Bridgewater type of QB. He has this next season and then all bets are off.

Nobody is giving a historically bad QB 3 seasons.....
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Post#28 » by WentzerWuver » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:05 am

Nunuu wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Nunuu wrote:
David Tepper has been the worst owner in the NFL since buying the team. He does want to win but he keeps making all the wrong decisions.

Bryce Young 5"8' over CJ being the biggest. I dont see Bryce being any better this season either. Panthers still going to suck for the foreseeable future.
Prior to that draft, the majority of sports analysts have the generational talented Bryce as also the most NFL ready QB to succeed but after the season, those same fans flip flop over to CJ and blame their owner for drafting the wrong QB. I had Bryce as my top QB but was playing for an organization mismanaged by an incompetent GM and a meddling owner who are under this belief that the QB position alone can win championships otherwise they would have never traded their best playmaker DJ Moore.

https://youtube.com/shorts/pa8MeatMYZM?si=hfRUCyhaBtovVHoe

I am certain that had they drafted CJ first overall while the Texans had taken Bryce, whom they wanted all along, the regular season end results for both teams would not have changed that much. Like all top QB prospects, Bryce deserves 3 seasons playing the NFL before he can even be considered a bust.


Bryce is garbage, he doesnt have the measurables to succeed in the NFL past the level of a Teddy Bridgewater type of QB. He has this next season and then all bets are off.

Nobody is giving a historically bad QB 3 seasons.....
Historically bad?!?

https://youtu.be/kRfID4ksCdw?si=dm2Epf5TuyKRU8Ao

I'm not sure if you follow basketball, but Steph Curry is a huge super fan of the Panthers and has supported Bryce and views him as a generational talent like himself. Steph also struggled greatly his first 2 seasons due to his weak boney measurables where he was pushed around trying to stay healthy but ended up being one of the best players in the NBA. With the current rules in place for both leagues on safety over rough plays unlike the early eras, Bryce can now succeed at the highest level like Steph Curry. Size has been replaced with quick decision making and executing smart plays which he has already achieved in Bama and should as well in the NFL.

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/texans-draft-superlatives-bryce-young-best-houston/

https://youtube.com/shorts/hCTtZCamdeQ?si=sDmUMdiPHlbjrWSl

I respect your opinion as a fan, but I think you might be too impatient like Tepper, who has treated every QB on his team like old news if they don't win immediately for him. Just give Bryce 2 more seasons, and you will be rewarded with greatness like Steph has done for the Warriors. Trust me on this cause Rome was not built in a day.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/10/10/23911132/panthers-david-tepper-frank-reich-nfl
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#29 » by Nunuu » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:33 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
Nunuu wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:Prior to that draft, the majority of sports analysts have the generational talented Bryce as also the most NFL ready QB to succeed but after the season, those same fans flip flop over to CJ and blame their owner for drafting the wrong QB. I had Bryce as my top QB but was playing for an organization mismanaged by an incompetent GM and a meddling owner who are under this belief that the QB position alone can win championships otherwise they would have never traded their best playmaker DJ Moore.

https://youtube.com/shorts/pa8MeatMYZM?si=hfRUCyhaBtovVHoe

I am certain that had they drafted CJ first overall while the Texans had taken Bryce, whom they wanted all along, the regular season end results for both teams would not have changed that much. Like all top QB prospects, Bryce deserves 3 seasons playing the NFL before he can even be considered a bust.


Bryce is garbage, he doesnt have the measurables to succeed in the NFL past the level of a Teddy Bridgewater type of QB. He has this next season and then all bets are off.

Nobody is giving a historically bad QB 3 seasons.....
Historically bad?!?

https://youtu.be/kRfID4ksCdw?si=dm2Epf5TuyKRU8Ao

I'm not sure if you follow basketball, but Steph Curry is a huge super fan of the Panthers and has supported Bryce and views him as a generational talent like himself. Steph also struggled greatly his first 2 seasons due to his weak boney measurables where he was pushed around trying to stay healthy but ended up being one of the best players in the NBA. With the current rules in place for both leagues on safety over rough plays unlike the early eras, Bryce can now succeed at the highest level like Steph Curry. Size has been replaced with quick decision making and executing smart plays which he has already achieved in Bama and should as well in the NFL.

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/texans-draft-superlatives-bryce-young-best-houston/

https://youtube.com/shorts/hCTtZCamdeQ?si=sDmUMdiPHlbjrWSl

I respect your opinion as a fan, but I think you might be too impatient like Tepper, who has treated every QB on his team like old news if they don't win immediately for him. Just give Bryce 2 more seasons, and you will be rewarded with greatness like Steph has done for the Warriors. Trust me on this cause Rome was not built in a day.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/10/10/23911132/panthers-david-tepper-frank-reich-nfl


IDGAF who Curry supports.

" Among quarterbacks who threw at least 300 passes this season, Young is going to finish dead last or second to last in all major advanced statistics.

According to ANY/A (adjusted net yards per attempt) Young’s season behind center is the 5th worst of all time by any quarterback.

The historical comparisons are bad. First round picks that have a year like Young are more likely to turn into the Josh Rosens and Brandon Weedens of the world than not. "

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-bryce-youngs-rookie-season

Like I said historically bad, as in one of the worst season of all time by a starting QB, in an age where the NFL is built upon passing the football.

IF you want him on your team after he gets dumped in the offseason more power to you.
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Re: Should Patrick Mahomes consider leaving the NFL for baseball similar to Jordan and his legacy? 

Post#30 » by WentzerWuver » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:52 am

Nunuu wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:
Nunuu wrote:
Bryce is garbage, he doesnt have the measurables to succeed in the NFL past the level of a Teddy Bridgewater type of QB. He has this next season and then all bets are off.

Nobody is giving a historically bad QB 3 seasons.....
Historically bad?!?

https://youtu.be/kRfID4ksCdw?si=dm2Epf5TuyKRU8Ao

I'm not sure if you follow basketball, but Steph Curry is a huge super fan of the Panthers and has supported Bryce and views him as a generational talent like himself. Steph also struggled greatly his first 2 seasons due to his weak boney measurables where he was pushed around trying to stay healthy but ended up being one of the best players in the NBA. With the current rules in place for both leagues on safety over rough plays unlike the early eras, Bryce can now succeed at the highest level like Steph Curry. Size has been replaced with quick decision making and executing smart plays which he has already achieved in Bama and should as well in the NFL.

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/texans-draft-superlatives-bryce-young-best-houston/

https://youtube.com/shorts/hCTtZCamdeQ?si=sDmUMdiPHlbjrWSl

I respect your opinion as a fan, but I think you might be too impatient like Tepper, who has treated every QB on his team like old news if they don't win immediately for him. Just give Bryce 2 more seasons, and you will be rewarded with greatness like Steph has done for the Warriors. Trust me on this cause Rome was not built in a day.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/10/10/23911132/panthers-david-tepper-frank-reich-nfl


IDGAF who Curry supports.

" Among quarterbacks who threw at least 300 passes this season, Young is going to finish dead last or second to last in all major advanced statistics.

According to ANY/A (adjusted net yards per attempt) Young’s season behind center is the 5th worst of all time by any quarterback.

The historical comparisons are bad. First round picks that have a year like Young are more likely to turn into the Josh Rosens and Brandon Weedens of the world than not. "

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-bryce-youngs-rookie-season

Like I said historically bad, as in one of the worst season of all time by a starting QB, in an age where the NFL is built upon passing the football.

IF you want him on your team after he gets dumped in the offseason more power to you.
Obviously YDGAF to anyone who supports him, even a generational superstar who knows what he is talking about. Anyways, I read that good, bad, and ugly article you attached that stated Bryce couldn't connect with Mingo all season, but what did you expect from a guy whose major weakness was running routes. Worst yet, he doesn't even acknowledge it was his fault, like he was implying the QB is not an accurate passer without saying it. If he wasn't the problem, how come Bryce didn't have any issues passing to Thielen, even though he lacks any speed to separate from his defender? I tell you why...he's the best route runner on the roster with reliable hands. And what do you expect from a fan written article with an agenda. You could have written that bias piece yourself for all I know. If he had a receiver with breakaway speed and understands route running, Bryce would've had a field day but guess what? Your dumb GM traded him away to make Justin Fields look great for once in his 3rd season as a pro.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZVedeeVDvYQ?si=P50PfNok8GEBqvOi

https://youtu.be/s12NDn7Wu6M?si=wWExypoCzycEthtj

Finally, if the Panthers ever cut him, which would not be surprising given Tepper track record, we would gladly pick him up to back up Hurts cause having two Bama guys who are as humbled as pie, would become fast friends supporting each other. And with our talented receivers and front-line protection, Bryce would not have to do much to take us to the promise land!
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Post#31 » by Nunuu » Tue Jul 2, 2024 1:09 am

WentzerWuver wrote:
Nunuu wrote:
WentzerWuver wrote:Historically bad?!?

https://youtu.be/kRfID4ksCdw?si=dm2Epf5TuyKRU8Ao

I'm not sure if you follow basketball, but Steph Curry is a huge super fan of the Panthers and has supported Bryce and views him as a generational talent like himself. Steph also struggled greatly his first 2 seasons due to his weak boney measurables where he was pushed around trying to stay healthy but ended up being one of the best players in the NBA. With the current rules in place for both leagues on safety over rough plays unlike the early eras, Bryce can now succeed at the highest level like Steph Curry. Size has been replaced with quick decision making and executing smart plays which he has already achieved in Bama and should as well in the NFL.

https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2023/03/13/texans-draft-superlatives-bryce-young-best-houston/

https://youtube.com/shorts/hCTtZCamdeQ?si=sDmUMdiPHlbjrWSl

I respect your opinion as a fan, but I think you might be too impatient like Tepper, who has treated every QB on his team like old news if they don't win immediately for him. Just give Bryce 2 more seasons, and you will be rewarded with greatness like Steph has done for the Warriors. Trust me on this cause Rome was not built in a day.

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2023/10/10/23911132/panthers-david-tepper-frank-reich-nfl


IDGAF who Curry supports.

" Among quarterbacks who threw at least 300 passes this season, Young is going to finish dead last or second to last in all major advanced statistics.

According to ANY/A (adjusted net yards per attempt) Young’s season behind center is the 5th worst of all time by any quarterback.

The historical comparisons are bad. First round picks that have a year like Young are more likely to turn into the Josh Rosens and Brandon Weedens of the world than not. "

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-bryce-youngs-rookie-season

Like I said historically bad, as in one of the worst season of all time by a starting QB, in an age where the NFL is built upon passing the football.

IF you want him on your team after he gets dumped in the offseason more power to you.
Obviously YDGAF to anyone who supports him, even a generational superstar who knows what he is talking about. Anyways, I read that good, bad and ugly article you attached that stated Bryce couldn't connect with Mingo all season but like what did you expected from a guy who major weakness has been his route running. Worst yet, he doesn't even acknowledge that was his problem, like he was indirectly accusing the QB on not being an accurate passer without saying it. If he wasn't the problem, how come Bryce doesn't have any issues making passes to Thielen, even though he lacks speed to separation from his defender? I tell you why...he is the best route runner on the roster with reliable hands. And what do you expect from a fan written article with an agenda. You could have written that bias piece yourself for all I know. If he had a receiver with breakaway speed and understands route running, Bryce as a proven accurate passer would shine but guess what? Your dumb GM traded him away to make Justin Fields look great for once in his 3rd season as a pro.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZVedeeVDvYQ?si=P50PfNok8GEBqvOi

https://youtu.be/s12NDn7Wu6M?si=wWExypoCzycEthtj

Finally, if the Panthers ever cut him, which would not be surprising given Tepper track record, we would gladly pick him up to back up Hurts cause having two Bama guys who are as humbled as pie, would become fast friends supporting each other. And with our talented receivers and front line protection, Bryce would take us to the promise land!


I am not going to take any celebrities opinions on Bryce Young, they live in a world where they have to spit niceties instead of saying how they actually feel.

Do you think Curry could come out and say he thinks Bryce is garbage and he is ready for us to move on? Its not going to happen even if that how he feels.

Agree to disagree on Bryce I watched him play all last season and his college game did not translate to the NFL at all. He has to make major strides just to become an average NFl QB, he has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming a Elite NFL QB.

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