2024 Offseason Thread

Post #421 » by **theBigLip** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:13 am

Diop wrote:
theBigLip wrote:Pistons fan lurking again

What’s the word on Bridges?

i thought reports were that Detroit didnt want him anymore?

Read on Twitter

I guess not. I definitely wanted him in Detroit.

Post #422 » by **Diop** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 4:14 am

theBigLip wrote:
Diop wrote:
theBigLip wrote:Pistons fan lurking again

What’s the word on Bridges?

i thought reports were that Detroit didnt want him anymore?

Read on Twitter

I guess not. I definitely wanted him in Detroit.

You guys still have a lot of $ to spend, so who knows

JMAC3 · Post #423 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 10:44 am

Two ways to view Charlotte cap space right now.

View 1: We operate as under the cap team.
- Jackson is traded for using Room exception (replaces MLE)
- Miles Cap Hold is 15
- We have 18 million~ in space to chase free agents. (or 33 million if Miles is renounced)
(would require Bertans to be waived)

View 2: We operate over the cap team
-Jackson counts against cap space.
- Miles is signed to X amount and we exceed cap.
- we have 12.8 MLE to sign free agent
(Bertans could be rostered still in this scenario)

View 1 is the route I would go.

JMAC3 · Post #424 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:43 am

A few moves that make sense potentially around the league.
1. Bucks moving Brook Lopez 23 million expiring- would get them under tax and be able to use MLE
Pistons could make sense
Orlando - WCJ trade for Lopez makes a ton of sense.

2. Lakers could look to move off Vandy/Vincent to open up more room under tax (MLE driven).
Salary dump potential for Utah, Charlotte, Detroit. JHS as payment?

3. Denver likely moves off Nnaji, so they can use full MLE on someone.

4. Miami likely retains at least one of Highsmith or Caleb Martin

5. Sixers will likely resign Melton now.
Maxey-Lowry
Melton- McCain
Oubre - Gordon
Paul George
Embiid- Drummond

Post #425 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:58 am

We better not sign Mo Wagner

Chapelchilla · Post #426 » by **Chapelchilla** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:10 pm

Oubre got a 2 year / 16 million deal from the 76ers. Good for him.
Hope we can sign a couple guys today. Maybe reunite the Martins and add a C.

bravor · Post #427 » by **bravor** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:14 pm

Need to get Murphy here. Tank hard. Then with a bit of luck, you select Flagg in 2025

Reunit Cooper and Murphy.

Ball - Murphy - Miller - Flagg - Williams

Stellar starting 5 and no black hole in defense

EmpireFalls · Post #428 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:21 pm

I’m totally on board with tanking, and it’s sad, because tanking should never be the path forward, but tanking this year could be crucial for our young core.

JMAC3 · Post #429 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:27 pm

The East sucks right now, I really don't want to tank when Chicago, Brooklyn, Detroit, Washington and Toronto aren't very good.

45 wins probably puts us in the conversation for a top 6 seed in the East next year.

Boston-Milwaukee-New York-Philly are probably 1-4, but Cleveland, Indy, Miami, Orlando are better than us but also not powerhouses.
Especially when it is likely 1-2 teams will struggle with injuries.

Atlanta and Us are on the outside looking in, but are both still young teams that could have internal improvement that speeds up timeline.

dmutombo321 · Post #430 » by **dmutombo321** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:28 pm

Anyone down for kicking the tires on Wiseman if he can be had for the vet min? No real risk in doing so...

His warts are apparent, especially defensively, but he's still only 22 and talented. Was flipping channels during the final day of the season and watched him put up a 21/17 line.

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Post #431 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:34 pm

Read on Twitter

Take that one off the board.

Post #432 » by **Diop** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:53 pm

Such a reasonable deal, but I guess it’s not a tank move.

I’m trying my best not to get negative . . .

SWedd523 · Post #433 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:55 pm

I'm sure they're trying to sign some of these guys but man it sucks seeing value deals for guys we could use go by

Post #434 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Another one off the board.

MPM · Post #435 » by **MPM** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:01 pm

yosemiteben wrote:

Read on Twitter

Another one off the board.

Man, I like Hartenstein, but overpay. OKC going a bit drunken sailor. 12mm per to Joe as well.

Post #436 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:04 pm

Yeah I like Hartenstein but not at that price.

LofJ · Post #437 » by **LofJ** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:14 pm

Once again we can't do anything because of Miles. This is 3 off-seasons in a row of him hurting this team.

EmpireFalls · Post #438 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:20 pm

Read on Twitter

Wow we really are gonna keep Miles aren’t we

Post #439 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:24 pm

LofJ wrote:Once again we can't do anything because of Miles. This is 3 off-seasons in a row of him hurting this team.

This feels kind of unfair. We could create like $30M in cap space simply by cutting him. We're choosing to pursue him, he's not forcing himself on our cap sheet.

Given the FA crop this summer, I'm not thinking we would have been particularly active anyway.

Hornet Mania · Post #440 » by **Hornet Mania** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:49 pm

The new regime is not pushing to win now, or that's my read on everything they've done so far anyway. I don't think they wanted or expected to make a big splash in FA this year even in a world where Miles wasn't in the equation for us.

Lee is going to see how the young core look while implementing his program and then the team will proceed from there. Best we get this summer is Miles and a few deals around the edges of the roster like Curry and a 3rd center.

In any case out of all the contracts given out so far Jalen Smith is the only one that seemed like a reasonable fit for us at a decent price.