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The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Assuming this is the last major addition, are you more excited than you were last offseason?

Yes
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No
1
2%
About the same
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33%
 
Total votes: 45

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#781 » by TeamTragic » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:54 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Another year together, more defined roles by a better coach, Beal hopefully not getting an early back injury and then breaking his face. The trio can only get better, but we do need an actual pg off the bench.


Not to mention that the WC is significantly worse
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#782 » by BobbieL » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:55 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Revived wrote:I wish he bought the Denver Broncos (the team he was initially after) instead of us. He could’ve ruined them and it would’ve been a bonus for me as a Chargers fan.



So from what I can tell

BWG
Yourself
me
Matt - I think thats the name - UCSB dude
somebody else I saw today - had like 6 team logos in their bio and one was the Bolts
not sure if missing anybody else

All Bolts fans. FYI - I am bullish on Harbaugh and Hortz - but not sure they make the playoffs this year. That doesn't mean I am down on them - just more they had such a bleep show to recover from - especially Hortiz.


Yes, it's SO nice to have Harbaugh. This guy is doing all the practice drills WITH the team. This guy immediately turns around teams that are not that good, and usually with less talent than we have. Like the 6 win Niners to 3 consecutive NFC Championship game appearances...one win and SB appearance (and the losses were very close..some may say unlucky). From 6-10 the year before he got there to 13-3, 11--4-1 and 12-4.

The team had totally tuned out Staley....and even spoke out loud bashing him in a non direct way...after winning the 10 games and blowing the Jax game.

I expect us to be very very competitive this year. I won't be surprised if the Chargers have 12 wins. I know tons of people wanted Nabors though I had a feeling we'd take Alt...I would have been happy with either. If we can finally control the line of scrimmage, Herbert can find receivers and we can actually run the ball, and sounds like the ex Ravens Smith/Dobbs will pound it. Ladd McConkey seems like he's going to be a receiver Herbert loves too. I just hope Quentin Johnson learns how to not drop the ball and they can get something out of him. Curious if Jerry Rice's kid will be good too. Then in the 7th he took a Michigan WR so he likely knows him well and figures he can contribute. Junior Colson, his other ex player, was a great pick...best LB in the draft. Also really stacked up on cornerbacks. Seems like the main weakness is WR, but that doesn't concern me a ton if Herbert has solid pass protection. Safety depth and interior defense could potentially be other weaknesses.

But yeah, us, matt131, Skybill I think has a Chargers one. It's too bad for Slim though, that Ishbia didn't somehow figure out a way to buy the Chiefs.

I loved Ekeler but the biggest thing I will miss about these Chargers is Keenan. Hope both those guys do well in their new situations. Keenan will certainly help make Caleb Williams transition easier.


My biggest wait and see for the Chargers is the Oline and Front 7 on defense.

Long term - I am bullish on the team though.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#783 » by Mulhollanddrive » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:56 pm

Beal and Booker teams have always underperformed with them at PG, Beal can be 6th man if we get a facilitator.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#784 » by BobbieL » Mon Jul 1, 2024 11:56 pm

Crives wrote:
SkyBill40 wrote:
BobbieL wrote:

So from what I can tell

BWG
Yourself
me
Matt - I think thats the name - UCSB dude
somebody else I saw today - had like 6 team logos in their bio and one was the Bolts
not sure if missing anybody else

All Bolts fans. FYI - I am bullish on Harbaugh and Hortz - but not sure they make the playoffs this year. That doesn't mean I am down on them - just more they had such a bleep show to recover from - especially Hortiz.


I'm in on this one. Ruining the Broncos? PRICELESS.


Go chargers



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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#785 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:07 am

I'd be okay with Morris, always positive +/- season and assist/to King.

Beal, Booker, O'Neale, Durant, Nurkic
Morris, Allen, Bol, Plumlee

Strong bench for no depth.

Still need Beal to play PG and be better team defensively
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#786 » by garrick » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:07 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
So you don't think he makes them better?


At what cost? He's wildly overpaid at nearly 100m over 3 years. Wildly. Presti messed this up. Fairly easy to see IMO.


He's overpaid but maybe they don't sign him at all if they don't offer that much and don't have another avenue to use the money to get better. If it prevents them from doing something that would improve them more, than it's bad, but does it? I don't know. If it makes them better it doesn't matter really. It is a couple years. He was a difference maker in the playoffs. OKC took the Mavs to 7, and are super young and ahead of schedule.

OKC has a ton of cap space and none of their players are up for contract renewals and there's a minimum threshold they need to spend anyway which is the result of having so many players on their rookie contracts.

Since it's OKC they need to overpay because no one wants to live in OKC.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#787 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:11 am

Read on Twitter

Give me Theiss as the 3rd rotation PF. Play Ighodaro at the 3rd rotation 5.
Sign Bullock? 3rd string SG.

Beal /Booker / Covington / KD / Nurkic.
Lowry / Allen/ O'neale / Bol / Plumlee.
Gillespie / Bullock/ Dunn/ Theis/ Ighodaro.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#788 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:14 am

If Jalen Williams can become Khris Middleton on offense they look ridiculous.

Gilgeous-Alexander
Williams
Dort
Holmgren
Hartenstein

Caruso
Joe
Wiggins
Williams
Williams

Basically all defensive team level and just need Williams and Holmgren to develop more shot creation at 21.

Their draft pick situation is overrated though, bunch of swaps with protections.

They can overpay Hartenstein because they're saving 100m with Williams and Holmgren on rookies for another 2 years.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#789 » by Crives » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:26 am

Damn so Kyle Lowry or bust

Read on Twitter
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Really wish we targeted payne
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#790 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:30 am

Monte Morris?

We may have to cycle back to Payne.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#791 » by Crives » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:31 am

Man Lowry is so dang old
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#792 » by Slim Charless » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:32 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Read on Twitter

Give me Theiss as the 3rd rotation PF. Play Ighodaro at the 3rd rotation 5.
Sign Bullock? 3rd string SG.

Beal /Booker / Covington / KD / Nurkic.
Lowry / Allen/ O'neale / Bol / Plumlee.
Gillespie / Bullock/ Dunn/ Theis/ Ighodaro.


That's actually fantastic news and makes a possible Nurk trade better. Hopefully increases our return too, if it happens.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#793 » by BobbieL » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:38 am

Crives wrote:Damn so Kyle Lowry or bust

Read on Twitter
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Really wish we targeted payne


Denver probably getting Westbrook

Its Lowry or Monte Morris.

Still don't need to bring back Okogie or Lee. Don't think Payne is an option anymore

My guess - Morris
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#794 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:41 am

Qwigglez wrote:Klay to the Mavs is solid IMO. Klay was the No 2 option with the Warriors, but he's at his best as the No 3 option. I think the Mavs got a serious upgrade in their offensive power when they desperately needed a third guy who can get buckets. Can they get back to the NBA Finals? Maybe. The West is still tough so it's hard to say and it depends on matchups but I think they improved their team. Klay is the guy that scored, what was it like 61 points when he dribbled the ball only a handful of times? He's now playing with two of the most ball-dominant players in the league.
Like the Suns, the Mavs contending is going to come down to health, but they got Luka in his prime and have surrounded him with players that fit their roster construction. Unlike the Suns, where we have a bunch of mismatched parts. Hopefully, the new coach can turn this team around.

I think for what they got him for/gave up, it's a no brainer. At the very least he's better than THJ. His skill set also works really well next to Luka/Kyrie. Thing is, he hasn't been too crash hot in the playoffs for a minute.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#795 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:42 am

Morris and Covington please
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#796 » by Mr Puddles » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:42 am

After not drafting a PG with both our pick (we probably could have moved up to grab Kolek if we wanted to), the worst possible outcome in free agency is the Suns missing out on a PG.

I'm hoping we have something lined up with Montgomery Morris. Lowry or Payne would be good signees as well.

I assume that for any facilitating back-up PG the Suns would be desirable destination. Not only does our roster lack a PG, the health track record of our starting guards isn't exactly amazing, meaning there should be plenty of playing time available. Especially Montgomery could significantly boost his stock here, similar to Grayson Allen last year.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#797 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:43 am

Klay is going to complain about ISO ball by Feb.

He won't need to dribble with Luka and Kyrie.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#798 » by lilfishi22 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:43 am

Slim Charless wrote:
BobbieL wrote:With White getting a new deal today and Tatum getting this extension
I think the starting line-up is going to be over $200m

that has to be some kind of record when that lux tax payment is going to hit

Read on Twitter


That's why their owner is selling his share. The Grysbouck (sp) are actually in the lower level of NBA owners money wise. Can't afford all that tax.



Kinda wish Ishbia had bought Boston instead of us lol

They are also selling the Cs at likely an all time high after winning a title and having the core pieces locked in. They'll go for ridiculous money
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#799 » by Mr Puddles » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:50 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Klay is going to complain about ISO ball by Feb.

He won't need to dribble with Luka and Kyrie.


I don't see the fit at all to be honest. Klay is going to play SF? Gafford and Lively will make up for the lack of perimeter defense of that trio?

Klay was inefficient on both ends of the floor last year. He'll know down some open jumpers for the Mavs next year, but I think they would have been better off pursuing other options tbh.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#800 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Jul 2, 2024 12:51 am

Might be another couple days before the minimums get handed out.

Either way we are still reliant on PG Beal and O'Neale and Nurkic carrying our defense.

If they don't work the bench don't matter as we saw.

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