The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Sunsdeuce]

Dang, I would have liked Bamba for the vet's minimum. Can spread the floor, but I suppose we are looking for a center that can pass.

I’m sorry I’m not buying the front office better fit because he can pass nonsense. It’s just them trying to sell Nurkic and now old man plumlee to the fan base.

Point is Bamba would have been a better fit for this team than Nurkic and Plums. Bamba can hit 3s and has an inside presence ability to swat shoots.

[lilfishi22]

I’m surprised no news on Okogie and Lee.. if they were coming back I feel it would been announced by now, makes me feel they are seriously considering other options

I would be fine with it

A bit of change is a good thing

Given the number of non-shooting wings we already have (Little, Roddy, Dunn), it makes Okogie pretty redundant. Rather we add at another position

[lilfishi22]

I was initially excited by plumlee but the more and more I sit and think about it, it’s just more of the same. This roster is the same as last year but with different names on a few uniforms. Eubanks couldn’t shoot, Plumlee can’t shoot (and is 35).

Sitting back and looking (being totally realistic), this team may be a tad worse than last year. Seriously take a step back and analyze this roster. We now have an older slower Eubanks and a taller, faster Okagie.

We still have the exact same problems as last year. 1) lack a starter PG. 2) lack a defensive force at center (Nurkic is easily the worse defensive center in the league who has a hard time making a layup). 3) lack offense outside of the big 3. 4) still missing with size and Athleticism.

Okagie needs to stay off this roster. No matter how much he hustles and tries, his offense makes him unplayable. He’s not at threat to the other team. Good kid, nice story, but not an NBA player.

Similar skillset but Plumlee is way more experienced as a contributor having played for some actually good teams like Nuggets and Clippers. Eubanks came in having played mostly for meh/rebuilding teams like San An and Portland.

Also agree with you on Okogie. He's redundant with Little, Roddy and Dunn

[SkyBill40]

So much for Dunn. And to a division rival at that.

I'm not interested in another year of Saben Lee, Damion Lee, or any of those players. We need a solid playmaker and we're once again having to pick through the scraps thanks to Ishbia's bravado.

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[Fo-Real]

Gillespie can play basketball!!

[lilfishi22]

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Only 2 2nds for Thompson?? What a gift for thee Mavs!

What were they gonna get though? The simple fact that they got anything in return is something considering he could've walked for absolutely nothing. I read Klay could've gotten better offers from other teams but went with Mavs for the fit. Even if the Warriors didn't facilitate a S&T, they would've lost him regardless.

[Mulhollanddrive]

I'd try Goodwin again, I promise there's something there like Carter or Melton who we discarded

[Revived]

Mavs sign Klay to a 3 yr $50 million deal total…Suns are paying Bradley Beal $50 million for each of the next 3 years. Jesus

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[MrMiyagi]

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Klay might be a nice add, but I think each of the 3 outgoing players are better than the other 2 they got. Don't think Dallas will be repeating in the Western Conference.

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Klay might be a nice add, but I think each of the 3 outgoing players are better than the other 2 they got. Don't think Dallas will be repeating in the Western Conference.

Marshall is as good a defender as DJJ but a significantly better shooter. Grimes isn’t as good a defender as Josh Green but still a better scorer.

And Klay over THJ is heavily in Klay’s favor.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Only 2 2nds for Thompson?? What a gift for thee Mavs!

What were they gonna get though? The simple fact that they got anything in return is something considering he could've walked for absolutely nothing. I read Klay could've gotten better offers from other teams but went with Mavs for the fit. Even if the Warriors didn't facilitate a S&T, they would've lost him regardless.

It was a sign n trade though to get Klay the money he wanted, and there were other suitors for him, So theoretically, the Warriors could have accepted other (potentially richer offers) or let those teams bid against each other a bit more and still done the sign n trade to get Klay his money.

Ironically, Here's the updated full updated asset return for the Warriors which looks more equitable:

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Overall, I'm glad to see the Warrior's run is finally coming to an end, the initial report still looked a bit light to me for Thompson, even with his potential decline, injuries, etc. OR it might be just that I hate the idea of the Mavs potentially getting deeper on the cheap. But post-update, it looks more amenable in terms of value exchange.

[AtheJ415]

Klay is no longer any good. I wouldn't want him at anything but the vet min. He is a shell of what he used to be. Comparing him to Beal is absurd imo though both are overpaid. Klay is a questionable starter at this point and likely should be coming off the bench.

[Slim Charless]

Mavs sign Klay to a 3 yr $50 million deal total…Suns are paying Bradley Beal $50 million for each of the next 3 years. Jesus

....Beal is better than Klay. By alot. Overpaid, yes but the better player. It's a big gap and one that will continue to grow as the years go by lol.

Klay is washed and the Mavs are a worse team than they were 48 hours ago.

[Slim Charless]

Klay is no longer any good. I wouldn't want him at anything but the vet min. He is a shell of what he used to be. Comparing him to Beal is absurd imo though both are overpaid. Klay is a questionable starter at this point and likely should be coming off the bench.

This.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[lilfishi22]

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Only 2 2nds for Thompson?? What a gift for thee Mavs!

What were they gonna get though? The simple fact that they got anything in return is something considering he could've walked for absolutely nothing. I read Klay could've gotten better offers from other teams but went with Mavs for the fit. Even if the Warriors didn't facilitate a S&T, they would've lost him regardless.

It was a sign n trade though to get Klay the money he wanted, and there were other suitors for him, So theoretically, the Warriors could have accepted other (potentially richer offers) or let those teams bid against each other a bit more and still done the sign n trade to get Klay his money.

Ironically, Here's the updated full updated asset return for the Warriors which looks more equitable:

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Overall, I'm glad to see the Warrior's run is finally coming to an end, the initial report still looked a bit light to me for Thompson, even with his potential decline, injuries, etc. OR it might be just that I hate the idea of the Mavs potentially getting deeper on the cheap. But post-update, it looks more amenable in terms of value exchange.

Klay has ultimate control though. Warriors had 3 options, resign him (they don't want to), let him walk for nothing or S&T him and get something back. They don't get to choose who he goes to and at most, they can veto a trade there but that'll just piss Klay off even more than he's already pissed off and they get nothing.

At the end of the day, they did right by a Warriors legend and despite the way things ended, I think Klay appreciated the Warriors for facilitating a trade to the team he wanted to go to

[Saberestar]

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[lilfishi22]

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Bro went from putting up Giannis numbers in Div III (I think it's Div III??) while shooting 37% from 3 to putting up Ryan Dunn 3P% in D1. Also his rebounds dropped by 40%, shot blocking dropped by 80%+ and overall FG% went from 64% to 43%. And he's a big

Not sure things will bode well for him going up another level

[Bogyo]

So far: Plumlee is OK, but he is on the decline, while Eubanks is in his prime (and had a really sub-par year compared to his previous standards). I think this is a very minor upgrade, if any.
Gillespie is a very nice 3rd string PG, who will likely be a tiny bit worse than your average 2nd stringer, due to his size and (lack of) quickness. It is OK, but nothing to write home about.
Keeping O'neale and Bol is good - but doesn't move the needle as we have seen from last year. Rookies are unlikely to move the needle, but I'm not against Dunn for about 10 minutes a game, trying to distrupt offenses. Not sure what he is doing on offense if he is not a smallball 5 in the dunker spot.
We are not significantly better than last year - only by the "medicore3" spending a year together, and while I hope Bud will do his magic, I m really doubtful that it was this big of a coaching problem, and pretty positive that it is a player problem and it will remain to be a player problem with Book and KD refusing to do what any coach says, if its not "middy" "in my bag" "king of court" "clear the court" or "iso". We'll see and I hope I'm wrong. (also, dont be surprised if one of them asks out after the olympics)

So: the remaining job - get rid of Okogie (sorry, we just got the bigger version of you for cheaper), get rid of Roddey (or whatever his name is, he didn't cut it). Get another PG from the pool of Tyus, Markelle if you can for the min. If not, then whoever is left from the Morris/Payne/Lowry/PatBev "sorrow-bunch". Try to get a PF somehow - I have honestly no idea who and how.

And the most important for the upteenth time: wait to fill your last roster spot with the guy who will get left out in the cold after its all said and done. That will mean a lot to this years bench, no matter who we are talking about - if we get really lucky and pick up this years Oubre we can easily trade O'neale (or god forbid, Allen) before the deadline for another need.