We Really Don’t Need Another Center (rotational proof)

[Fury]

I want to throw another name out there as a center option. He is far from a traditional center or rim protector so don't kill me because the options are thin in free agency now. What do people think about Kyle Anderson?

Not very athletic or a shot blocker but has great length and defensive instincts and was part of the best defense in the league. He was able to guard bigger wings and forwards very well and he is a great communicator. There aren't many back to the basket post centers that he would have to bang with but i'm not sure how his rebounding would hold up at the position.

On the offensive end his lack of perimeter shooting wouldn't be such a big deal at the 5 and he would add extra ball handling and playmaking to the second unit. Could he hold up as a bench center until the Knicks found a better option? He would also be able to give them depth at the 3 and 4 if they did.

I'm not sure if the Knicks could afford to obtain him but maybe he would take a discount since he is from the area and i'm not sure if the Wolves would want to pay to retain him with all the money they have on their books. Could they afford to add Kyle and retain Precious?

I like it

[Gravy]

I'll take my chances with Hakeem-lite thank you

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[HarthorneWingo]

Mitch isn’t reliable, Randle can’t play center maybe more than a few minutes to end a game or he’ll foul out in 10 mins. Sims isn’t an nba player, mathematical odds say the 58th pick won’t be an nba player. We are in dire need of help.

Precious and OG

[Wildcat]

I am actually calming down more and more as this discussion moves along. Other than Mitch being injury prone, I'm not gonna worry about this situation any further.

The center position here is just rim protection and rebounds. That's all. There's no major role for them outside of that. Shart added a wrinkle with his passing but, we were missing Randle/OG/Mitch for most of his run. January was beautiful but, it's over.

Keep Mitch as healthy as possible and get another player better than Sims and we should be fine. If/when Mitch goes down... then we can worry about it.

In Leon we trust!!

I'm still bummed out. I'd be less bummed out if I-Hart's 3rd year was guaranteed because 3/87 sounds a lot better than 4/68, but 2/59 sounds like ****. He didn't want to be here. And that's fine. But he sold it freakin' well because I brought in to some of the sh*t he was saying (cares more about being in a place that wanted him, culture, teammates, etc.). His demeanor was NY.

Oh well.

[spree8]

I'll take my chances with Hakeem-lite thank you

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Is he coming over tho? Thought he was a stash for at least a year

[Jeffrey]

Precious gave us good minutes. He should be the priority free agent at this point for depth.

He's more a 4 than a 5 though.

Right now, the Knicks have the following individuals capable of playing the 4:

Randle
OG
Mikal
Hart

I think they should look into a true C not named Sims.

Sigh... i know we need bodies but when we trotted out Mitch, Precious and Josh Hart... that's some blackhole for offense right there.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I am actually calming down more and more as this discussion moves along. Other than Mitch being injury prone, I'm not gonna worry about this situation any further.

The center position here is just rim protection and rebounds. That's all. There's no major role for them outside of that. Shart added a wrinkle with his passing but, we were missing Randle/OG/Mitch for most of his run. January was beautiful but, it's over.

Keep Mitch as healthy as possible and get another player better than Sims and we should be fine. If/when Mitch goes down... then we can worry about it.

In Leon we trust!!

I'm still bummed out. I'd be less bummed out if I-Hart's 3rd year was guaranteed because 3/87 sounds a lot better than 4/68, but 2/59 sounds like ****. He didn't want to be here. And that's fine. But he sold it freakin' well because I brought in to some of the sh*t he was saying (cares more about being in a place that wanted him, culture, teammates, etc.). His demeanor was NY.

Oh well.

I'm definitely bummed out. I really thought he was all about it here but, apparently he was not. I didn't expect the offer he got either and, can't really blame him for taking it but, he can go fuq himself now. I do not wish him well and I do not hope he succeeds. Shart can fuq right off with his bag of money!

I'm just not gonna panic about the center position until the dust clears. I trust the FO 100% after everything they've managed to do so far. They are on a worst to first trajectory in only 3 years without a tank or a superteam structure build. They had zero superstars on the team when they took over as well. This was all done under the radar basically. 21 wins the year before they were hired. #2 seed 50 wins after the fourth season. Pretty damn impressive.

[Capn'O]

I like the idea of going small. Especially since we have a bit of a glut at the 2/3 again. It definitely changes strategy since a huge part of our offense was planning for offensive rebounds. I'd rather have at least one more insurance guy but my guess is that the brass doesn't like the free agent market and is looking for trades to sure up the roster.

We can certainly enter the season like this. One thing I wonder is if we'll be able to keep the whole Villanova core long term. I feel like one of Hart and Donte is excess with the new cap constraints.

[Gravy]

I'll take my chances with Hakeem-lite thank you

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Is he coming over tho? Thought he was a stash for at least a year

Not sure, maybe we'll find out during summer league

[Kampuchea]

Center is the easiest position to find players off the scrap heap. Plus Mitch is a damn good starter.

[Jalen Bluntson]

I like the idea of going small. Especially since we have a bit of a glut at the 2/3 again. It definitely changes strategy since a huge part of our offense was planning for offensive rebounds. I'd rather have at least one more insurance guy but my guess is that the brass doesn't like the free agent market and is looking for trades to sure up the roster.

We can certainly enter the season like this. One thing I wonder is if we'll be able to keep the whole Villanova core long term. I feel like one of Hart and Donte is excess with the new cap constraints.

Randle coming back from shoulder surgery and OG being injury prone is not a good recipe for a small ball team. Short spurts in some games? Sure. Night in and night out? I don't like it. We need Mitch to stay healthy.

[kNicksGmen]

I am actually calming down more and more as this discussion moves along. Other than Mitch being injury prone, I'm not gonna worry about this situation any further.

The center position here is just rim protection and rebounds. That's all. There's no major role for them outside of that. Shart added a wrinkle with his passing but, we were missing Randle/OG/Mitch for most of his run. January was beautiful but, it's over.

Keep Mitch as healthy as possible and get another player better than Sims and we should be fine. If/when Mitch goes down... then we can worry about it.

In Leon we trust!!

I'm still bummed out. I'd be less bummed out if I-Hart's 3rd year was guaranteed because 3/87 sounds a lot better than 4/68, but 2/59 sounds like ****. He didn't want to be here. And that's fine. But he sold it freakin' well because I brought in to some of the sh*t he was saying (cares more about being in a place that wanted him, culture, teammates, etc.). His demeanor was NY.

Oh well.

i don't agree based on the money. he's getting 59 in 2 years compared to 72 in 4. he will most likely get the 3rd year and get an extension or new deal at 20+ mil. He's getting more up front and still has a great chance to get another big bag.

[sol537]

Bring Hukporti and get him in the gym with Hakeem. Seriously.

[thebuzzardman]

I didn't watch enough Jazz basketball to know, but I see Omer Yurtseven being name dropped. How's he?

Fairly portable

[sol537]

I am actually calming down more and more as this discussion moves along. Other than Mitch being injury prone, I'm not gonna worry about this situation any further.

The center position here is just rim protection and rebounds. That's all. There's no major role for them outside of that. Shart added a wrinkle with his passing but, we were missing Randle/OG/Mitch for most of his run. January was beautiful but, it's over.

Keep Mitch as healthy as possible and get another player better than Sims and we should be fine. If/when Mitch goes down... then we can worry about it.

In Leon we trust!!

I'm still bummed out. I'd be less bummed out if I-Hart's 3rd year was guaranteed because 3/87 sounds a lot better than 4/68, but 2/59 sounds like ****. He didn't want to be here. And that's fine. But he sold it freakin' well because I brought in to some of the sh*t he was saying (cares more about being in a place that wanted him, culture, teammates, etc.). His demeanor was NY.

Oh well.

i don't agree based on the money. he's getting 59 in 2 years compared to 72 in 4. he will most likely get the 3rd year and get an extension or new deal at 20+ mil. He's getting more up front and still has a great chance to get another big bag.

Yeah... $59m guaranteed vs. $34m guaranteed (our first two years).... $25m difference. He'd probably stay if it was a $10m difference the first two seasons but $25m is nothing to sneeze at. I hate it, but I don't blame him. We found iHart off the scrap heap and I'm sure we can eventually find someone just as impactful. No worries.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

We absolutely need another center, we all know what's going to happen if Mitch gets hurt, we'll see everyone's minutes go up across the board to make up for it to win games. The East is shaping up to be a bloodbath, we can't afford to lose any type of ground because Sims is thrown into the starting lineup, or somebody gets hurt because they're playing too many extended minutes up a position. I want to see Randle play the 5, but he shouldn't be doing it every single game for 30-40 games because Mitch is out.


They have to make a trade to get that guy, the only ones that fit into the Thibs mold are Kessler and Richards, Kessler has elite rim protection numbers, Richards is around average, but the problem is that Mark Williams is injury prone too so I don't know if they're going to be willing to move Richards since he'll probably start at times.

[St Knick]

do we need a backup C? yes
is our team going to go on a 10-game losing streak if/when mitch gets hurt? no
can we play the long game and get a center mid season (buyout guy or trade that presents itself?) yes

we don tneed a fully baked team for game 1. well be fine

[bronxknicksfan1]

We absolutely need another center, we all know what's going to happen if Mitch gets hurt, we'll see everyone's minutes go up across the board to make up for it to win games. The East is shaping up to be a bloodbath, we can't afford to lose any type of ground because Sims is thrown into the starting lineup, or somebody gets hurt because they're playing too many extended minutes up a position. I want to see Randle play the 5, but he shouldn't be doing it every single game for 30-40 games because Mitch is out.


They have to make a trade to get that guy, the only ones that fit into the Thibs mold are Kessler and Richards, Kessler has elite rim protection numbers, Richards is around average, but the problem is that Mark Williams is injury prone too so I don't know if they're going to be willing to move Richards since he'll probably start at times.

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[Jalen Bluntson]

We absolutely need another center, we all know what's going to happen if Mitch gets hurt, we'll see everyone's minutes go up across the board to make up for it to win games. The East is shaping up to be a bloodbath, we can't afford to lose any type of ground because Sims is thrown into the starting lineup, or somebody gets hurt because they're playing too many extended minutes up a position. I want to see Randle play the 5, but he shouldn't be doing it every single game for 30-40 games because Mitch is out.


They have to make a trade to get that guy, the only ones that fit into the Thibs mold are Kessler and Richards, Kessler has elite rim protection numbers, Richards is around average, but the problem is that Mark Williams is injury prone too so I don't know if they're going to be willing to move Richards since he'll probably start at times.

Funny you say that

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Does Scotto have sauces? I originally read he suggested the idea a week ago about Richards not that they were actually doing it. Dude probably reads this site.

[CharlesOakley]

The Knicks should hire the kneesovertoesguy to train Mitch. We need him ready for the playoffs if we want our best chance at a title.

At this point, in Leo I trust but clearly our center rotation is the only area of weakness. Randle at center in a small-ball lineup situationally is fine but it's giving too much up defensively to be consistently relied on.